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Support » Downstream.. did you move, change job or career, start working, pause? » April 22, 2021 6:47 am

JoeC
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I am the same person, I had an old JoeH profile that I must have used a few times. JoeC and JoeH are one in the same.  I appreciate people answering these questions, I know tthey are helpful for the  larger forum, and they are also helpful as I/we move forward to help with better support, information, data on the straight spouse phenomenon. 

Thanks everyone
Joe 

Support » Downstream.. did you move, change job or career, start working, pause? » April 21, 2021 8:30 am

JoeC
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Continuing my thoughts on the downstream impacts of what we have experienced. I am interested in some of the following topics.  Did you stay in the marital home, or sell it or move out?  Did you start working, change jobs, or even careers?  Did you even move away, from the area that you lived?  Did you take time off, or pause, and just get your head straight? Travel etc. What was factors helped you process and move forward to the next version, future self that you are now? 
For instance, I am still in the marital home, she moved out. I am contemplating selling it, though it makes sense to keep it for financial reasons, I often wonder about what it will do for me to get rid of the marital home. Or, am I just trading one headache for another.  Another thing is; I only remained in my area working in the jobs I did for her. Stable job, but I could change things up.  Lots to think about.

Support » What is it like for you after/later/downstream/moving forward?? » April 12, 2021 11:01 am

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We all have come here for support. We read, we comment, we ask questions. We all follow a similar yet different path, and find meaning from this group in different ways. Some stay connected here, some come and go, and some are no longer here.  I learn from others, and I like to hear from others experiences. I have so many questions, but today I am most interested in what is it like, what has it it been like for you "after" as you move forward in life. What I am interested in, is where are you now and how did you get there?  Questions include, are you happy, at peace, how are the kids, did you move, change jobs, chase that dream that you always wanted but were held back by your GEX? Was there a magic moment, something that clicked and it all fell into place?  Are you still working on it, do you see prosperity ahead? I am not one to dwell on the negative, its been one heck of a year, I am looking forward to something different, but haven't found it yet. I am still working. 

General Discussion » How to get un-stuck » December 8, 2020 8:50 am

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I told my ex that she was the one who was moving out. This was on her, she needed to move not me. Also I used facebook market place for furniture, and ordered a mattress online.

General Discussion » the film "Uncle Frank" » December 8, 2020 8:46 am

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If this kind of film were around 30 years ago, and society was what it was today then I would hope that my ex might have gotten the courage when she was 14 to actually talk to someone about what she was feeling in terms of her sexuality. She didn't address who she was because of fear and shame and not knowing anyone around her who was gay. We need more of these films (no matter how cliché or canned). Maybe that young teenager will see the film and make the right choice in life.

Support » Wife of 20 years is Lesbian » September 8, 2020 9:14 am

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9 months ago I had the you are gay and this marriage is not going to work moving forward confrontation conversation with my exwife. She was gay, always had been, used the "Im Bi" to avoid the reality of who she was. We had been married for nearly 20 years. This was the last place I expected to be at 43 years old. I was looking for a road map of sorts to help me make sense of my path forward.  Feel free to message me for conversation.

Support » Do I wait or do I divorce? » August 18, 2020 7:57 am

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Its tough when you are with someone you love and care about. You want to make it work so bad. Divorce isn't an easy decision, but often its the right one in these situations. A year before I got divorced my ex casually told me she thinks shes a lesbian. It was unexpected, and hurt me and I didn't react well too it. Well, within a few days she walked back her statement to "well no really I am bisexual and you are the only man I love, so lets keep doing what we are doing"   She continued a close friendship/relationship with her now girlfriend, and I kept attempting to get her back to what it was in our relationship without luck. Fast forward a year later and we headed to a divorce. I don't wish divorce on anyone, but what I would say is have the blunt honest conversation about who she is. My ex told me that "she didn't want to be gay" that she really wanted the family and kids and husband etc....ultimately, she was struggling for a lot longer than I will ever know and she won't tell me the whole truth because she doesn't want to hurt my feelings to this day. Its not easy, but I would suggest that blunt honest conversation.

General Discussion » Anyone embarrassed » August 6, 2020 7:44 am

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I am not embarrassed to tell people what happened and why.
I am divorced after 20 years my ex came out as gay.
What I struggle with is talking to people (opening up to people) about my thoughts and feelings and what this loss has done to me. I want to share more thoughts and ideas, but even here in this board, where we are surrounded by people who are straight spouses, its difficult to truly share in a vulnerable way. I wish this were not the case, I wish I could share more, but its tough to do this for fear of being attacked or judged or shamed for sharing some of my deepest feelings.
That is what I am embarrassed by.

Is He/She Gay » Question for a straight man » July 10, 2020 9:11 am

JoeC
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I am a straight man, and here is my perspective. I was married for 20 years when my GEX came out as gay. When I was married, What I thought was right for intimate relations I justified, rationalized and it became normalized in life. I never had a frank, open discussion with anyone about what was actually going on in their intimate sex life. Porn isn't real, advice columns tend to be soft and broad in their statements and advice, and sex talk is taboo. I absolutely wish we all talked about the intimate side (not just sex) of a relationship because had I talked about it, I would have really questioned earlier in the marriage.
Looking back with a new lens what do I see now?
What do two newlyweds do on a honeymoon, a lot of sex right?  Well we didn't do that!  We hiked and took in the sights.
Sex was always intermittent, never spontaneous and was often planned or spoken about as "lets connect" always from me.
Intimate connection in all ways declined over the years, with the most drastic after our last child was born; makes sense now, the reason for sex on her part was fulfilled.
I can count the times oral sex was either received or performed, the conversation as to why not was around "I just don't like it or I am not good at it or you aren't doing it right" a lot of shaming.
Sex - when it happened, well it was just sex, no build up, foreplay, no excitement, no real fun.
I thought I was the problem, that I was bad at the intimate connection and sex, so to correct it I got really good at sex, read books, watched videos, research, etc to do everything to please my GEX, Eventually I could please my GEX to some degree. Now though I am sure she was thinking of women while having sex.
She would never deep kiss me, or look me in the eyes during sex.
There was never any playful groping or touching or anything like that outside of the bedroom.
I could walk through the house naked and she wouldn't even look up or comment.
She would get annoyed if I even tried to randomly get pla

General Discussion » I am a straightspouse...this is MY Forum » July 3, 2020 11:14 am

JoeC
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Whirligig wrote:

I don't buy that they don't know. And if they are questioning?........................ .

Mine knew since the 7th grade, she knew for years, she just ignored it and eventually said she didn't really know or understand. I don't know what to think of that now.  You know what though....its a statement that repeats itself over and over....so what does it mean?

Its not fair right....I mean I always knew I was straight and never questioned it.



 

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