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General Discussion » I Hate Him » November 26, 2022 3:33 pm

Bertuccio
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Thank God I organized all the divorce paperwork early on... before developing all this feelings  of hate.

All I want is for her to leave my house and to have as much contact as is required by the law because of the kids.

I never thought I could get to the point of wishing not having ever met her....

And I know it's all part of the grief and all that... but man... she made such a big effort to make it blatantly and painfully obvious that she doesn't want me in her life that I can't do nothing but respect that effort.

General Discussion » Happy Thanksgiving » November 26, 2022 3:26 pm

Bertuccio
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My wife is american but we live in Spain.

For the past 14 years we've been celebrating thanksgiving even though it is not a thing here.

This year my wife's sister and her family came to Madrid and here we are, celebrating what will definitely be the last Thanksgiving of my life with people I will not see anymore, and with nothing to be thankful for.

Support » How Do I Get It Back? » October 12, 2022 2:25 pm

Bertuccio
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Dear girl.

We've all been here one way or another.

You are not married to him. You don't have kids with him. You have zero need of mortifying your soul.

Accept that he never loved your nor will he ever be able to love you.

At the very least he will love having you play the role of girlfriend/wife/mother, but not you specifically.

It is a very hard pill to swallow. But once you do, you'll be over it sooner than you think.

General Discussion » 7 months pregnant and feel like my world has been ripped away from me. » October 11, 2022 1:49 am

Bertuccio
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Sorry you found yourself in this situation.

Regularly it's mentioned that he is Bisexual. No. He is not. He never was.

He also never loved you. He loved how you fit into what, at the time, he thought he wanted in life.

It takes quite a long time to accept it but once you do, you will see with more clarity.

Lots of hugs.

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General Discussion » Taking Things At Face Value » October 2, 2022 12:38 pm

Bertuccio
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RichJen wrote:

(still, can't get the question out of my head, "Were they lying to me or to themselves? And would I feel any better about one over the other?)

There is no way to answer that question. And you feeling better or not is still framing your mental health around her.

Whether she knew or didn't know, the truth is that she never truly loved you, so there is no point on hoping there is any sort of chance of getting her love back.

Support » Today is bad. Again. » October 2, 2022 11:14 am

Bertuccio
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You can't keep a marriage that doesn't exist.

You can drag the farce out for a while until one of you explodes. Even for years.

But in the end the wife you thought you had never existed.

So take control of your life while you have a chance.

I was drowning for a few months. Even started to think that maybe things would be easy if I didn't exist.

I took all the courage I could, organized the papers for divorce and even arranged the purchase of a house for her with a mortgage she could afford.
We are still not done with it and we're living as roomates now, which is like 1,000 stabs on the heart each day.
But in a few weeks she will have her own place and she'll move out of our house, of my house.
Sorry our 4 kids will have to alternate houses each week, but they will adapt. And I will be able to rebuild myself, leaving the past behind.

General Discussion » Taking Things At Face Value » October 2, 2022 9:00 am

Bertuccio
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I gave it a lot of thought.
In my story I even wrote about what I thought was behind this hole thing.
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic_mobile.php?id=3104

But in the end, gay or not, it really doesn't matter. The truth is that he never truly loved you.
We married them for love, they married us because we fit in what, at the time, they thought they wanted in life, until they didn't and we became burdens to get rid of.
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Support » Today is bad. Again. » October 2, 2022 12:19 am

Bertuccio
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I would not focus that much on her sexual orientation, really.

The question is, do both of you want to make the marriage work?

Then learn about mixed orientation marriages, talk to people who are in a MOM. Get passionate about it. Give it a chance.

If she truly loves you, she will make it work. If she doesn't, at least you tried.

Support » The truth is... she never truly loved you » October 1, 2022 11:53 am

Bertuccio
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SameDeepWaterAsPhil wrote:

Bertuccio:
I honestly don't know what to say in response to your remarkable post other than: WOW! You've made such a profound statement, my friend. I, too, have begun to think as you've written, but then I'm left with: what next? I have a family, a home, a life that WE have created together over the course of decades. My wife's family is MY family, too. How could I possibly walk away, however she may really feel about me, deep down? My faith teaches me that "love endures all things." That has fueled my efforts to save our marriage, even after all of the HARD days, especially recently. The fatigue is there, though, and the acknowledgement of what you've written within my own heart. God bless you for being able to articulate what so many of us have struggled to express.

I really didn't have a choice. I would've put up with so many things to save our marriage. God only knows how far I would've crawled accross the floor for her.
But it takes 2 to make a mixed orientation marriage work.
She must have hated her life enough to give up 100% or her husband, her house, and 50% of our 4 children's lifes.

General Discussion » I hate my ex » October 1, 2022 10:23 am

Bertuccio
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Sam (Admin) wrote:

Victo wrote:

I wish I could say that I was a perfect husband. I wasn’t. I certainly started out being genuinely loving and forgiving and understanding but after being gaslit and manipulated for 15 years, I began to mirror my ex in her behavior.

And that’s just it. She literally took everything from me. My family, my career, and my sense of my own character.

I rarely post anymore about my own situation as I divorced 20 years ago and remarried 8 years ago. However, that does bring back memories. I spent 15 years of a 20 year marriage trying to be a "good husband" and always failing in my X's opinion. She did her best to isolate me and my kids from my family. She was constantly trying to get me to change careers because she resented that I actually liked my career and was good at it. She actually resented that I got pleasure out of anything and figuratively tried to suck all the joy out of my life. She wanted me to be whatever I was not. I actually tried for a while hoping she would be happy but she never was. For the last 5 years I turned off. I was dad to my kids and breadwinner for her and aside from that retreated into a shell. When she came out, part of me was actually relieved. I realized I had a "get out of jail free" card. Part co-dependent.... faced with an unknown future and afraid. Turns out I was able to learn to be happy and enjoy life again, although it took a while. 

I can relate to that so much... the idea that me enjoying my life, my career, my family, was somewhow always annoying to her... I was never able to put my head around it. But it all made sense. When someone hates herself, even in denial, they can't understand how other people can enjoy their own life.

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