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Support » Pride Month Triggers » June 12, 2022 4:46 pm

Ellexoh_nz wrote:

MarieSimoneLoraine wrote:

I live in Ontario, Canada, where June is also Seniors Month. In my seniors' group we have workshops and activities including, you have guessed it, many with LGBTQ components.  It's Seniors' Month so let's talk about LBGTQ.  Not going.
 

 
Marie.... Have you told your seniors group why you won't be there?

Elle

  - My group knows me, the seniors, they know all about me and my situation. I have discussed it at times with them, during our meetings or over a coffee, but I don't feel I have to add anything or for this part of me to be the focus of our meetings!  Group leaders, working communitee employees,  have to conform and give us the official use of pronouns workshops,  explain the new law on self-declaratioin, etc.  I have no problem with these workshops but they won't teach me anything so I will not go.  
 

Support » Pride Month Triggers » June 10, 2022 2:33 am

I live in Ontario, Canada, where June is also Seniors Month. In my seniors' group we have workshops and activities including, you have guessed it, many with LGBTQ components.  It's Seniors' Month so let's talk about LBGTQ.  Not going.
 

Support » I feel like I suffered enough, now? Now, he wants to be mommy. » June 7, 2022 3:47 pm

Sorry to read your all too familiar story.  I hope you have help from family, friends.  I thought I should give this link   https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/  This is one of a few places where I read stories like yours and mine.  What you wrote here is already very comprehensive and well-written.  

Is He/She Gay » J'ai de gros doutes sur l'orientation sexuelle de mon conjoint » March 9, 2021 7:11 pm

Pensez vous que mon conjoint est gay ou du moins a une attirance pour les hommes ? - Oui, je pense que votre conjoint est homosexuel, mais aussi ses manières avec ses copains hétéros et l'épisode du sous-vêtement féminin suggèrent une possible confusion de genre.  Ne soyez pas mal à l'aise de fouiller dans son historique de recherche.  Il ne semble pas bavard, mais quand il vous parle prenez des notes, surtout si cela semble insensé, confus.

Is He/She Gay » J'ai de gros doutes sur l'orientation sexuelle de mon conjoint » March 9, 2021 6:47 am

Vous vous adressez au bon endroit.  Le récit que vous offrez, vous en trouverez en grand nombre sur les pages de ce site.  Nous avons tous pensé à un moment donné que nous avions perdu la raison mais vous êtes ici avec des gens qui ont vécu une expérience semblable.  Qu'importe l'époque, 
certaines choses ne changent pas.  Vous serez lue ici, et il me fait plaisir de vous répondre en français.  J'ignore s'il y a d'autres membres qui parlent français, et s'il existe un organisation de soutien en français nous le découvrirons ensemble.  Vous aurez besoin d'appuis et c'est ici ou dans un groupe de personnes qui vivent des moments semblables que vous les trouverez.  Bien que je comprenne votre appui à la communauté LBGTQ, elle existe pour votre conjoint.

Je vous invite à lire les conseils sous General Discussion - First Aid Kit: How to survive finding out your partner is LBGTQ.  Je vis au Canada où nous avons un groupe SSN canadien, mais en anglais seulement, à ce que je saches. JJe m'informerai aujourd'hui.

Je suis optimiste pour vous.  Vous n'êtes pas folle! Vous êtes jeune et vous voyez juste.  C'est plus que votre temps que vous risquez de perdre, c'est le droit de choisir votre vie. Vous ne voulez pas vous retrouvez à 70 ans sachant que votre vie fut une illusion.

Mon mari aussi adore les hétérosexuels.  D'ailleurs quand il est 'sorti du gâteau' après 43 ans de mariage, il m'a dit qu'il avait eu des relations sexuelles avant notre mariage avec des hommes, mais depuis les 35 dernières années il aimait mieux les femmes qui ont un pénis.  J'ai sourcillé et lui ai demandé quelle est son orientation sexuelle il a répondu hétérosexuel.  C'est moi qui n'est pas une vraie femme digne de ce nom selon lui. Je ne suis pas plus folle que vous et j'ai vite comprit que si je suis confuse, il l'est bien plus que moi et que je n'y peux rien.  Il est futile de tenter d'entrer dans sa tête, mais il faut vraiment faire le tour de la vôtre. Deu

Support » Husband likes shoes/stockings...how far will it go? » October 20, 2020 5:34 am

"people have thought I'm a lesbian, so the last thing I want is a gay-like husband! (that's my baggage, not his fault)".

I totally share your desire to avoid having a gay-like husband.  I am a 5'11" tall, flat-chested 68 year old woman.  My husband has admitted to me that he would imagine me as a man when having sex with me.  There was no vaginal sex after the kids were born; we agreed it was best due to my problems with repeated UTIs.

I have heard the 'too tall to be a woman' since I was 12, from strangers and others, but I knew I was just tall like my brother is tall at 6'4".  People also thought of me as a lesbian. They wanted to change me, get me to look different, more like a woman.  Breast implants were suggested by my doctor but I saw no reason to do this.  I was healthy and I had a husband who loved me just as I am, or so I thought.

Four years ago, images of Michelle Obama in pants, with shadow effects added to suggest she has a penis, were circulating in my group of friends who found this funny.  I did not, at all.  Our friends, one in her early sixties having just had a boob job in Thailand, became pushy with me, ridiculing my body.  Eventually I cut all ties with them.  I became so depressed that when my husband approached me one morning, caressing my bum and expecting a bj, I told him to stop touching me as if I were a man.  Later that day he told me everything about his life, sex with men before and during our marriage, until he stopped and became sober and faithful to me 14 years ago.

I don't know what baggage you carry to think it is not his fault.  I don't feel responsible for other people's confusion and fantasies about my body parts or sexuality - their baggage not mine. I cannot shorten myself at 68.

Support » Help! I feel like I'm on a roller coaster. » September 7, 2020 6:50 am

It was when he started to have sex with men and transgender women 32 years ago, I now realize, that my husband started to keep track of my menstrual cycle in his agenda. When I was sad or stressed by the turmoil of gaslighting he would wave his agenda to me as proof that it was my hormones, my body, not his behaviour that was the issue in our marriage.

Last year after I "came out as a SS" to my 12-step group, without having revealed the above incident, a fellow member told me the same agenda story with a husband she divorced 30 years ago. She was still shocked by it, and so much was I that I never told her that the same thing happened to me. I should have. We must share these stories to understand that it has nothing to do with our body and all to do with their minds. Obviously our embodiment is the issue with non-straight spouses. They are not all happy with this. My fellow group member's son was as gay and addicted as his dad, whom he hated, and died of overdose.

General Discussion » Trans Widows Voices » September 6, 2020 12:21 pm

I cannot define my husband's gender id or sexual orientation for him. I live by the Canadian legal reality of what a transgender person is : gender refers to what the person internaly feells.  I observe and feel the effects of his behaviour on my family., and the culture that was imposed on us .  My husband describes situations dating back to before we met where he is always  being picked up by men.  He likes to be courted.  He revealed to me that he had to behave like a heterosexual macho-cowboy to have anal sex with women with dicks. He stopped because he was fed up with the routine, so he moved on to exclusively  porno and masturbation, and being faithful to me these last twelve years.  He got fed up of the  pretend cowboy routine and maybe he wants his share of what heterosexual men have to offer, I don't know.  We will be entering our 70s and he claims he just wants to enjoy retirement with me.  We live comfortably together, we would not if we lived separately.  He doesn't want to alter his body but has been growing his hair.  

Does a spouse have to undergo hormone or surgery to be considered a trans wife?

General Discussion » Trans Widows Voices » September 6, 2020 6:58 am

New to this open board.  A year ago, after telling me that he had been unfaithful to me starting 1988 the person I married 44 years ago came out as heterosexual because he most likes to have sex with women with dicks.  As a tall girl, now a 5'11"  (1m80) tall woman, I have been misgendered since the age of 5. My brothers, my best friend, my colleagues, people I meet at the gym, strangers in elevators, all have had fun at being rude and laughing at my appearance. I had loving parents, came to know gentlemen when I was 20, gaining enough confidence to dismiss all these ignoramuses.  My husband came out while he was suffering from major depression with 'crazy' episodes (his term) and sang like a bird.  He told me he thought of me as a man when we were having sex.  We had four children.  I will add on to my story.

I started to read your trans widow site a few months ago. The written stories were most helpful.  I recently saw a video of a young woman, about her life with an autogynephilic man. The woman seems so shaken, understandably so, as I imagine I do too when I tell my story, but I need a space to spell out the vulgarities in vulgar terms, otherwise it all sounds like a rant.  For example,  my 37-year old disabled son, tears in his eyes, told me recently that for years he had seen trans porno on our computer. My son is the computer expert in the family, a programmer at a very young age.  A couple of weeks ago I went in to look at trans porno and saw a theme that is as clear to me as the concept of Trinity told by St. Patrick holding a shamrock : depicted were a penis, a pile of feces and a pink vulva.  It is gross to say or write, but in picture it is exactly what I feel was done to me.  His risky sex life was a concerted effort to hurt me and my family, which when he came out 'crazy' he called the enemy (me) and the non-neutrals (our children).

I am just beginning to be able to write about my experience, greatly because I just got a laptop with a keyboard rath

Our Stories » Barbe Bleue » September 2, 2020 7:30 am

We have been married 44 years.  My husband sat down beside me in May 2019, and claiming to fear for my health, explained to me that twelve years into our marriage he had started having sex with other persons, now been faithful for about twelve years though he remained addicted to trans porno until three years ago when he became sober. Those other persons he had been having sex with were  women,  men but it was when he started having sex in 1988 with trans women that he really found what he most likes. I had read headlines on gender identity, so I asked him what was his sexual orientation, in his sexiest, most proud and convincing voice he answered "I am heterosexual".  He had come out of the cake.  He was also suffering from a major depression and having 'crazy' episodes as he names those.  Enough of him for here and now.

I am writing this for me.  I am 68 years old, 5'11" tall woman.  I was loved and treated with dignity by both parents.  My older brothers would bug me because I am flat chested- they told me to eat apple seeds!.  I was six when I last went out for Halloween.  I was chased by adults for stealing candies from little kids.  I was educated in a catholic boarding school  for 8 years, spending weekends and summers in my family.  I had my first period at 11, when I reached my adult height of 5'11".  I did not have a sixties adolescence, did not watch tv in the convent. I volunteered a lot as a teen.  Taking the bus was difficult as I was usually met with a 'is that a man or a woman' from strangers,young and old.   Colleagues teased me - registered me for a Miss Bust contest and made fun at me in the office.  I never had gender dysphoria, I am a woman,  totally attracted to men even at 68.  I always considered, and still consider  those who teased me to be stupid and the things they were saying to be stupidities.  In any case, by the time I first had sex I was twenty and for two years came to intimately know some nice gentlemen.

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