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September 5, 2020 6:42 am  #1


Trans Widows Voices

Hi all.

I run the relatively new website Trans Widows Voices, and I was interviewed by SSN for a recent podcast.

I believe there are many women here who have partners who have transitioned or who are in the process of doing so, so I thought the website might be of interest to some of you.

The site was crowdfunded by other feminists and aims to amplify the voices of women who have split or who want to split from transitioning partners, in order to balance the prevalent narrative of “stunning and brave”

I can’t add a link to this post as I’m new but it’s easy to find via google!

 

September 5, 2020 9:45 am  #2


Re: Trans Widows Voices

   Just wanted to jump in there to say that TinselAngel is the person who moderates the Mumsnet thread on trans widows (Trans Widows Escape Committee), which I've recommended in posts, and that mine is one of the stories on the Trans Widows Voices website.  She's an incredibly honest and compassionate person who has lived the experience and thought deeply about it (as her podcast makes clear), and is committed to making sure that the experience of women whose husbands declare their transgender status--women like us--is heard and validated, and that we have spaces in which to discuss our experience.
   I'm very glad she agreed to be interviewed, as the two existing podcasts were by women who either stayed with or stayed in touch with their transformed spouses, and I think it's important that the experience of those of us who left be acknowledged and validated, because for the spouses of transgender women, especially, the main narrative is "accept" and "love the person not the package."  

 

September 5, 2020 11:00 am  #3


Re: Trans Widows Voices

Thanks for vouching for me, I’m aware most women here may not know who I am.

I feel very strongly that women’s voices are of at least equal importance in this debate, and that we should be heard.  Women must not be pressured and gaslighted into the role of support human in somebody else’s adventure.

I was quite nervous about the podcast as it’s the first time I’ve done anything like that- all my other stuff has been written so it feels (as they say on Mumsnet), outing.  But I hope that it might encourage some of the women here to take up the opportunity to share their stories on the website.

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September 5, 2020 11:04 am  #4


Re: Trans Widows Voices

Let’s see if I can post a link now:

https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/

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September 5, 2020 2:17 pm  #5


Re: Trans Widows Voices

 

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September 5, 2020 6:16 pm  #6


Re: Trans Widows Voices

TinselAngel wrote:

Hi all.I run the relatively new website Trans Widows Voices, and I was interviewed by SSN for a recent podcast.

I listened to your Voices podcast Tinsel. Good luck with your website

Elle
 


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September 6, 2020 6:58 am  #7


Re: Trans Widows Voices

New to this open board.  A year ago, after telling me that he had been unfaithful to me starting 1988 the person I married 44 years ago came out as heterosexual because he most likes to have sex with women with dicks.  As a tall girl, now a 5'11"  (1m80) tall woman, I have been misgendered since the age of 5. My brothers, my best friend, my colleagues, people I meet at the gym, strangers in elevators, all have had fun at being rude and laughing at my appearance. I had loving parents, came to know gentlemen when I was 20, gaining enough confidence to dismiss all these ignoramuses.  My husband came out while he was suffering from major depression with 'crazy' episodes (his term) and sang like a bird.  He told me he thought of me as a man when we were having sex.  We had four children.  I will add on to my story.

I started to read your trans widow site a few months ago. The written stories were most helpful.  I recently saw a video of a young woman, about her life with an autogynephilic man. The woman seems so shaken, understandably so, as I imagine I do too when I tell my story, but I need a space to spell out the vulgarities in vulgar terms, otherwise it all sounds like a rant.  For example,  my 37-year old disabled son, tears in his eyes, told me recently that for years he had seen trans porno on our computer. My son is the computer expert in the family, a programmer at a very young age.  A couple of weeks ago I went in to look at trans porno and saw a theme that is as clear to me as the concept of Trinity told by St. Patrick holding a shamrock : depicted were a penis, a pile of feces and a pink vulva.  It is gross to say or write, but in picture it is exactly what I feel was done to me.  His risky sex life was a concerted effort to hurt me and my family, which when he came out 'crazy' he called the enemy (me) and the non-neutrals (our children).

I am just beginning to be able to write about my experience, greatly because I just got a laptop with a keyboard rather than the restrictive (to me) mobile phone.  Maybe I will submit a more developed version to your trans widow site.

 

September 6, 2020 7:20 am  #8


Re: Trans Widows Voices

That all sounds very difficult.  A lot of women have noted the influence of porn.

I’m not sure though from what you say if he is trans identifying or just a gay man who likes to have sex with trans women?  If so it wouldn’t really be within the remit of my site but  I wish you all the best in dealing with it all.

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September 6, 2020 8:50 am  #9


Re: Trans Widows Voices

I’m not sure either is worse than the other and there are many similarities but still, they are different.

The more work I do on this the more I see relationships between trans widows and our ex’s in terms of abuse dynamics.  I don’t know if that is as prevalent if your partner is gay (mine was both gay and trans as it happens).

I’m one woman who does this in my spare time, so I can’t help everyone unfortunately. I have to use what labour I have to spare, in supporting and amplifying the women who I can be most useful to- that is trans widows.

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September 6, 2020 9:47 am  #10


Re: Trans Widows Voices

longwayhome wrote:

Edited to add: If you read the stories on this board, some of us were denied having children because our spouse was gay.

Yes, my xGIDH was the same. I wanted a child so badly. Too late to have one now. It is the worst thing he did to me. Very sorry you had the same, longwayhome.

I discovered a Twitter account of his where he was soliciting men dressed as women.  They looked masculine with long hair, plain appearance (no drag queens), & female names. They looked like stern schoolmarms from the early 20th century.

I respect your work, Tinsel Angel. Thank you for participating in the SSN podcast & posting here!
 

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No - It's not too late. It's not hopeless. Even there, there's something I can do. I just have to find the will. Ikiru (1952), film directed by Akira Kurosawa 
 

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