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Strategies for MOM's » Sadness » October 21, 2020 6:49 pm

Julian_Stone
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No, it's not different because it was a man. Not one bit. (He knows this...that's why he did it behind your back). He's compartmentalizing. I'm guessing your vows weren't "forsake all others....until I'm ready to explore my sexuality...." 
"Bisexual" means capable of being attracted to both sexes...not *needing* both sexes for survival.....and, as his wife, *you* should be his priority. 

There's a quote that makes the rounds here quite a bit....."You do not have to set yourself on fire to keep others warm." Listen to your heart & gut on this one. Six months is not nearly enough time for your head to catch up.  <3 
 

General Discussion » Why do our GID wives (or husbands) refuse to come out? » October 21, 2020 3:37 pm

Julian_Stone
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rekamc wrote:

I now think every single woman that I see is a closeted lipstick lesbian (I'm sure that isn't the case but that is how traumatized this whole experience has left me)

 

I think this is normal. It's impossible to come out of this unchanged....but many here have gone on to have happy, truly fulfilling relationships...with another (straight) partner...and/or with themselves. So important to be your own best friend—and give yourself time to process everything & heal.

Strategies for MOM's » Sadness » October 21, 2020 1:18 pm

Julian_Stone
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Sonata—I can really feel your pain. I, too, would be devastated if my husband asked for an open marriage. 

For an open marriage to be successful, I firmly believe both parts of the couple need to be fully on board with it. As you mull this over, I think it's important to take the bisexuality out of the equation...because it's irrelevant (in my opinion): Would you be OK with your husband seeing another woman "a couple of times a year?" 
 

General Discussion » Why do our GID wives (or husbands) refuse to come out? » October 21, 2020 1:00 pm

Julian_Stone
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Because they don't want to be gay. And many spent their entire lives shoving those feelings deep down. They want the picket fence and the 2.5 children and the whole hetero package portrayed in books and films.

How they can justify deceiving their partners—I don't know. 

Before I knew I was a "straight spouse," I was one of those people who would quietly wonder "How could she not know?" when some married-for-decades celebrity would publicly come out as gay. After reading the stories in here (and in the "gay world"), I now understand what amazing performance artists they are...I should say *some* are...since, obviously, you had a hunch. What were some of the things that clued you in to your wife's non-straight sexuality?

Support » What do I do now? » October 20, 2020 12:17 pm

Julian_Stone
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There's not a whole lot of sexual content in the Married and Bi community...and the moderators are pretty quick to remove the random dick pics and hookup solicitations that pop up...but I did want to warn others that there's not a big straight spouse presence in that forum...and some of the conversations may be "triggering" (for lack of a better word).

Strategies for MOM's » If monogamous, how does your partner deal with same sex desire? » October 19, 2020 6:24 pm

Julian_Stone
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"Heteroflexible"/heteroromantic is definitely more common...though I get the sense (after spending way too much time in the bi reddit world) that's oftentimes the result of internalized homophobia...I think for so many bi men, romantic desire is more "gay" than the sexual desire...or "penis fetish" as they often refer to it as. But, once they open their minds to the possibility of having a more romantic relationship with another man (and those dopamine receptors are activated during sex), they realize they are, in fact, capable of a romantic connection. I'm sure that's not the case across the board, of course. It's all so confusing to me as a straight person. Post-trauma bisexuality/homosexuality is also so common...(though, as a non-psychologist, I'm not sure why). I'm so sorry your husband experienced that. That is awful.

Support » Can the Gay go Away ? Other straight spouse stories » October 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Julian_Stone
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ExBeard wrote:

Knew I’d seen it somewhere. See link to full article and relevant text below. Hope that helps! 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/03/did-i-ever-really-know-him-the-women-who-married-gay-men
’Did I ever really know him’?: The women who married gay men. 

Some reactions are more surprising. Service manager Roxanne says a post-disclosure honeymoon period can happen, and sex begins again because it brings back emotional intimacy. Such was the case for Madeleine. “Interestingly, after it came out, we had a brief spurt of sex together. The first time it happened, I cried. It had been eight years.”
 

The post-disclosure honeymoon period is so common...I think it is probably a trauma response...Ideally, I think the straight spouse should have some distance post-disclosure to think clearly and process...Of course, that's not practical for most people....especially when there's children involved. Has anyone come across any good studies on "trauma bonding" (in this context)? 

Strategies for MOM's » If monogamous, how does your partner deal with same sex desire? » October 19, 2020 2:56 pm

Julian_Stone
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TangledOil wrote:

Also, we have incorporated “gas sex play” (role playing) into our intimate activities at times. So he did get to add that in, but he says he watches less gay porn now. 

The typo gave me a good chuckle 

I couldn't do it...(gay role playing)...It would be a huge blow to my femininity  ...and I'd probably laugh hysterically (while crying on the inside!) I don't think my husband would be into that anyway...He claims he is "not interested in anal sex (period).." (His words)...and that he doesn't find penises particularly attractive. Unlike most of the stories I come across, his attraction to men seems to be more romantic ...which was really kind of a shock to me (hearing him describe it during counseling) because while we've always had great sexual chemistry, he's never been particularly romantic...There was always this indescribable wall between us that I couldn't quite pinpoint.

Support » What do I do now? » October 19, 2020 10:55 am

Julian_Stone
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So nice to hear you are doing well, Chalizbet! You seem like a very caring & thoughtful person—and your partner seems more empathetic and honest than most we hear about in here. My husband and I are still together, too....(together close to 10 years; bi bomb came during year 9 on his 35th birthday). The dishonesty really eat away at me at times, but I'm trying to make it work [while keeping my guard up ;) ]

I've also discovered the Married and Bi subreddit...but haven't found it a great resource for me, personally..Many of the posts are from bi men struggling with monogamy (which just feeds my paranoia)...I was actually banned from posting after responding to a man who was cheating on his unknowing pregnant wife with multiple men (the admin flagged my response as "shaming").  Still, I check it out from time to time to get insights from "the other side." Though, with the nature of it being the Internet, I understand that the happy monogamous types probably wouldn't find a need to be posting online.

The "straight wife" blog was really helpful to me during those early days (www.thestraightwife.com)...Even though the outcome wasn't great (they opened up their marriage and are now getting a divorce)—the humor provided some much-needed light during that very dark time. 

I'll check out the other community you suggested.

Thanks again for checking back in! I hope you stop back in from time to time.

Warm wishes,
J <3

Support » Husband likes shoes/stockings...how far will it go? » October 15, 2020 4:32 pm

Ellexoh_nz wrote:

rebecca wrote:

.......Not looking for answers. Just wanted to vent/share, since only one friend of ours knows about his fetish (I encouraged him to tell her), but she and I had a falling out so I can't talk to her.

 
We're all here for you but it's so valuable to have the confidence of somebody you can talk to face to face. A friend, member of your family, a counselor
 

This times a million...so important for *you* to have someone to confide in. <3

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