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April 23, 2019 11:13 pm  #1


What do I do now?

I want to start with an apology for how long this post is.
When I started typing my story, I realized it felt therapeutic to write everything down and put it all out there, having held nothing back (even if it is terrifying)... 
 
I have been with my partner for 8 years, we met in our early 20s, we have endured much in that time, including moving to the other side of the world together 5 years ago (from North America to Australia). I understand 8 years may seem laughable in comparison to some your own experiences, but when you consider how young we were when we met, that amount of time consists of our entire adult lives - we have known nothing else but each other. 
 
It has been less than a week since he confessed he was as he called it 'a little bit gay', and when I pressed further, bisexual. Since then I have experienced a torrent of emotions, from shock to confusion, to betrayal, fear and helplessness, to a debilitating sadness. What truly has my heart trapped in a vice is the fear that he is actually gay, and using bisexuality as a shield - not only lying to me but also to himself out of fear. I'm not sure if these feelings are warranted, or if it is just my own fear, and the last thing I want to do is to somehow diminish or trivialize the lives of those who are in fact bisexual. But we are both just so young and we constantly hear people telling us that you can never really know yourself at our age. What if it is fear that is controlling him? Fear of change/acceptance, or fear of losing me... 
 
He says that this his feelings towards other men have been developing over the last couple of years, but that he has never been with a man, and never experimented before we met. He confessed that if we weren't together, this is an experience he would seek out. I can't help but feel like I am in the way, like I am somehow at fault for him not being about to discover his true self. He has admitted that he will probably never really know unless he experiences men, but has been adamant that he is not willing to jeopardize our relationship to do so. This makes me feel like I have trapped him somehow, and during the past few days I have found myself self-loathing and agonizing over the fact that I am not and will not ever be enough to make him happy and whole - whether he is gay or bi.  
 
In the midst of the storm of emotions, 2 patterns of behavior are repeating themselves over and over, feeling desperately inadequate and insufficient and then throwing myself at him, using everything I have to prove that I am enough, and that he does want me, and only me. But when it’s over, he drifts to sleep and I lay awake feeling utterly empty and numb. Is this normal? Am I just desperate and longing for assurances that he will never be able to give me again? I am not naive, I know that there is an answer staring at me in the face... I could put my needs and wants aside, and help him find someone to explore this with, either outside our relationship, or with me involved somehow, I don't know... I feel like the rules or the lines of our relationship have been blurred, and something that would ordinarily be taboo and completely abhorrent in my mind - (needing to be with other people, or bringing someone else into the relationship for us to work) is now somehow now our only feasible option to survive. 
 
There is a duplexity in me, there are parts of me that feel like it could be exciting, but bringing that thought into the realm of reality makes it's consequences unavoidable. Making me acknowledge that a hot fantasy comes at too high a cost. Besides the obvious fear of it resulting in him confirming he is gay (I realize that if this is the case it would come out eventually - but it's still terrifying) - There is also the fear that if we do this and it results in him confirming he is bi, the cost of that confirmation is that we would have plagued our relationship with jealousy and hurt. Hot or not, the thought of someone being with my person other than me, and the thought that my person needs someone other than me, it’s just too much to bear. I would never ask him to be okay with me being with someone else woman or man, and I thought he felt the same (in the past we have had light conversations while watching tv/movies with him confessing he would be too jealous), but now I just don't know how he feels. Despite all of this, part of me knows that if I were to deny this for him, to deny him discovering his true self, I wouldn't be the partner he deserves, I wouldn't be much of a partner at all. 
 
Meeting young can often mean missing out on self-discovery, and if I am honest, some days I do wish that I had more time on my own before meeting him, but I don't regret him entering my life when he did, we have grown up together, experienced some of the highest highs and lowest lows and have an incredibly strong relationship for it. But now, I feel anguished that although I might have wanted more time, he needed more time to discover who he is. I want nothing more than for him to be happy and whole, and I am terrified that his realization will actually result in the opposite if he stays with me. Although he has been assuring me that he loves me and that I am enough, I fear he will always be yearning for something more, and as time goes on, resent me for it.
 
I lament the time I took for granted feeling like we were both whole, and feel that will never be possible again. He just wants to pretend like nothing has changed, when I feel like everything has changed. I know he loves me and I see that he is suppressing his feelings to save me from hurting. But I can't let the happen! I would love to bury my head in the sand, but I see that he is torn, and ultimately I know I cannot be the one to keep him from living as his true self, no matter what it costs me.
 
I feel so confused and shaken to the core. I just want him to be happy. I would do anything to make him happy but I fear that i'm just not enough.

 

April 25, 2019 3:45 pm  #2


Re: What do I do now?

Chalizbet

I’m sorry you’re feeling this way. I can tell you one thing based on the stories I’ve read here. There is a reason why he told you about his bisexuality. If you were enough and if he had no intention to act on it, why did he felt the need to tell you? He probably saw how sad and stressed this made you and promised you that he won’t act on it.

 

April 25, 2019 8:52 pm  #3


Re: What do I do now?

Sorry. I dont deny your love but be greatful the signs were early enough you can part as friends. He is gay. Cry your heart out and find someone to love again.

 

April 25, 2019 9:48 pm  #4


Re: What do I do now?

Chalizbet,
   I understand this feeling of yours, that you want desperately to prove you are enough.  I felt the same. I also did a version of what you contemplate; I accommodated, I helped, I involved myself in sexual activity that at some level I found "hot" because, I now think, it was a desperate attempt to stay relevant.  I wanted my husband to love me, I wanted to think that my husband had loved me, that I was enough, that I was worth loving.  
   I can tell you, however, that it was a huge mistake on my part to accommodate him, and only let me in for years more of pain and heartbreak.  
   The best--and hardest--thing you can do is to break it off, and to get away.  

 

April 26, 2019 10:23 pm  #5


Re: What do I do now?

Chalizbet,
You REALLY need consider ending this relationship. I understand that you love him and have spent your entire adult life with him. I started dating my ex the summer after I graduated from high school. The cold hard reality of this is there is no going back to before. The feeling of not being enough is always going to be there. The wondering and worrying is always going to be there.You can’t “unknow” this. There may be times when things seem good, but the good doesn’t last.
It is good that he was honest with you about having an attraction to men, but it is still extremely likely he is gay. My ex and many others on here started out as “bisexual.” I struggled for about 5 years before I finally let go and filed for divorce and then got blamed by him for destroying our family. Then after just short of 25 years of marriage he married the man that was the last straw within 6 months of our divorce being final. You are still young find someone that you can be enough for and be happy. Sometimes we have to accept the things we can’t change.

 

April 27, 2019 11:32 am  #6


Re: What do I do now?

Chalizbet, your feeling of not being enough will only get worse if you stay.  By the time I left, my ex had me feeling guilty about my basic needs.  I can’t predict the future but the typical outcome of the patterns you described is he will experiment with men whether he tells you or not, conclude he is gay and want that and your love too and you will not have reciprocity. I agree with 6kidslater... you need to seriously consider leaving now while less has been invested.

From what you described, you have a lot of love to give and you deserve to receive it back.

In the simplest terms, for those of us that leave MOMS it’s because we conclude there will be no reciprocity and we can no longer live without it no matter the cost to leave.

 

April 28, 2019 9:21 pm  #7


Re: What do I do now?

To me, many of the people that have commented so far seem like their partners have all been full gay and were just pretending to be bisexual. This definitely isn't the case 100% of the time.

I was in a situation very similar to yours but genders reversed. I started have been with my wife for about 12 years now and she came out around 5 years in. I felt many of the inadequacies that you do, especially since she had never acted on it (we got together just after high school). I am a staunch believer in monogamous relationships as well (and it turns out my wife is too) so opening up the relationship was out of the question for both of us. We did end up having a drunken threesome one night but afterwards, decided to never do that again. It was really fun at the time but the feelings of jealousy both ways did nothing for our relationship.

I've now had around 7 years of knowing my wife is bisexual, but even if she didn't know it all her life, she's been bisexual the whole time. Your partner has been bisexual his whole life too. I don't know him. It might be the case that he is, in fact, gay and hiding it. Going off my personal experience, all you can do is trust when he says that he is what he is. It can actually be a bit fun! Depending on how open you are, you get to point out men that you find attractive and he can give his opinions too.

I sincerely hope that, whatever happens, that you are happy.

Last edited by DannyBoi (April 28, 2019 9:26 pm)

 

April 29, 2019 2:32 am  #8


Re: What do I do now?

Thank you to everyone for all of your kind words and support. I know that every response on here has been made out of love and posted with a desire to protect me from experiencing similar heartbreak. I am truly grateful that you all have taken the time to read my story, provide your own take on our relationship, and share your own experiences to guide me to the best of your ability. Since sharing my story a lot has changed and I have found more clarity on the matter. At this stage, I think the post from Dannyboi is what resonates with me the most…
 
At first my partner gave me nothing but space (at my request) and so I reached out on this platform feeling extremely alone, anxious and confused. However, after my post, I felt like a weight had been lifted and so I sought my partner out, and began opening up emotionally. He was relieved, and grateful that I had decided share with him how I am feeling, and also hear him out further (I had been quite distant other than being physical with him randomly). I found he had a great willingness to be open and honest - no matter if some of his answers to my questions hurt me, and although this helped, we decided that it was a necessity for us each to attend solo counselling.
 
For him, these counselling sessions have helped him voice his confusion and investigate/explore his feelings for men. For me, these counselling sessions have helped me voice my fears, and investigate/explore my feelings of inadequacy. After 3 sessions each, we have both agreed that we want to try and make our relationship work, and will continue on with couple’s counselling (starting tomorrow).
 
He has since said that the way he came out was "wrong" (it came out by accident/not planned). He said if he were to have a "do over", he would have given himself more time to understand it better himself, and seek out resources to help me understand how he felt and what it meant for us. He said he felt like he never really accepted that he was bisexual until it was voiced to me, and so didn’t give himself to permission to even explore those feelings (having been worried he was actually gay). He said that having a few weeks to begin to properly come to terms with his feelings, (with the help of his Councillor), he has a greater understanding of his desires and where the line is. 
 
We have had many direct conversations on what exactly attracts him to men - the particular physical features he finds alluring, as well as what he doesn't like in men, (we also had the same conversations about women). Overall, he confessed that although there are some features he likes in men, and that it is a sexual fantasy of his to experiment with men, there are no physical features he "loves" in men. He also said that there are physical features of men that he either "doesn’t like" or that "doesn’t do anything for him". He has said that he has no desire to be with men romantically, and that it is purely a sexual curiosity. To this point he went on to say that he "loves" all physical features of women, that there are no physical features he doesn’t find attractive, and that the sexual fantasies of women go deeper to the basis of romantic feelings.
 
We went so far as to discuss the ratio of men to women that he finds attractive in public, and the ratio of attraction he feels toward the "best looking" of both men and women (both answers being approx. 20% men and 80% women). We also viewed his porn history / preferences, to look at what he sought out the most (gay = 5%, threesome MMF = 25%, straight sex = 70%). He assured me that I give him everything he "needs", and that what a man could give him is just "supplementary" ("it would be nice but I don't need it"). He has said that he feels that I - as a woman, can provide him more than a man could, and with the right accessories, I could also provide his sexual desires of a man (only if I am comfortable with that). 
 
He said that he put out the wrong message when he said he thought he could never be sure unless he was with a man ("I hadn't given it much thought at all, and I know now that is not the case"). He said that he is absolutely not looking for an open relationship or to explore outside of us - that I am all he needs, that it would be good if I was up for experimenting in the bedroom (just us), but he would understand if I wasn't comfortable with that, and that he would be perfectly content to stay as we are.
 
He has also searched and found several online stories about other monogamous couples in our circumstance from the perspective of the bisexual man. These stories were ones which he related to/felt the same way as, and he said he shared these with me because he hopes it will help me understand how he truly feels. He wants me to know that we are not alone in our circumstance and that he is not the only one out there saying that they feel this way. He has been constantly reassuring me, loving me, and doing everything in his power to help me understand how he feels.
 
He has said that in this day and age, and with how young we are, if he were gay it would be far easier for him to leave and live his ‘true self’. But that there is no doubt in his mind it is that he is bisexual - not gay, that he loves women far too much, that he loves me far too much to be gay. He has stated if there was one thing I should believe above all else, it is that although he is attracted to both men and women, he is attracted to women more, and he finds me the most attractive of all. That I am his life partner, and he does not need another women or another man, he is committed to me, only me, and always will be.
 
With the help of his openness, coupled with looking internally and seeking my own truth, I am finally beginning to see a little clearer. I understand there is a long way for us to go, and we will need to strip down our relationship to the bare bones and rebuild. I also understand that I will always carry doubt of my own inadequacies and this is something I will continue to work on - on my own and with my solo Councillor.
 
I’m not sure if any of you experienced some of the above, or all of the above. If you see similarities in what has happened with us thus far, or if this mirrors your own situation and you can see this has a very bad ending. I do understand that all the while, with everything said and done, there is still a very real chance that he is  gay (and just doesn’t know it yet, or is afraid, or I am in denial). But there is always a chance for any relationship to break down - for a million different reasons, and I have decided that I would never forgive myself if I let go and pushed away a good, loving man, out of such a fear or lack of understanding. So I am choosing to trust him, and start the process of rebuilding, with the hope that we will come out stronger on the other side.
 
However, with having read what I have read here, I would be naive to not keep a part of me protected, and I intend to work on myself throughout this ordeal, knowing that if this doesn’t work out, I will not be broken, but glad that I can walk away after having given this my all, and know in my heart that in the end it just wasn’t meant to be.
 
If anyone has any resources or advice on how we can work on a monogamous mixed orientation relationship, I would really appreciate your help/wisdom.

     Thread Starter
 

April 29, 2019 8:49 am  #9


Re: What do I do now?

Dannyboi, it sounds like you have trust and reciprocity in needs being met. Chalizbet, it sounds like you are attempting to build that.  Both of you seem to have effective communication in your relationships. For those of us that leave,  one or both of reciprocity and trust is missing in the relationship, and it became unsustainable. I wish you both the best over the years.

 

April 29, 2019 11:08 am  #10


Re: What do I do now?

 Less than a week ago Chalizbet wrote, "I would do anything to make him happy but I fear that i'm just not enough." 

And now, DannyBoi, you are writing, "Depending on how open you are, you get to point out men that you find attractive and he can give his opinions too."


All I can say is that doing that is certainly a big step on the road to "anything."  What's next?  Finding him people to act out his desires with?  I cannot imagine anything more depressing and soul killing than that.  

Chalizbet, you should consider whether you are being groomed, led down the path toward his acting on his desires.  Because if he doesn't want to act on them, he had no need to tell you about them, whatever he tells you about this increasing your "understanding" of him and however you spin this.  It's double-think and double-speak to be told by your spouse that s/he desires someone else, and to believe knowing this will strengthen your marriage.  


 

 

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