Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 12, 2020 10:49 pm |
Thanks, Sean. I only have the experience of being a straight person, so I appreciate hearing perspectives/getting insights from "the other side."
Before I found myself in the "straight spouse network," I was one of those people who would think "how could she not know?" when a married celebrity would publicly "come out." Surely they weren't having sex. A gay man can't possibly have sex/sustain an erection with a woman. Now I know that's not the case...as many women in here—and other forums I've stumbled into—have talked of having active (enjoyable even!) sex lives before the gay bomb dropped.
That's the thing that sort of haunts me the most. My story is a little bit different than what I've come across. My husband told me he was bisexual about 9 years into our relationship. He admitted that he'd known since about puberty, but that he'd never had any same-sex encounters. I found no porn, no texts, no emails, or apps...and since we've both worked from home for years and are together 99% of the time...there simply would not have been any opportunity for infidelity. (I did get an STD test anyway!)
It's been close to 2 years now, and he's never asked for an open relationship or "hall pass" or simulated gay sex (as you call it) or a threesome even...In fact, it seems his attraction to men is more romantic (as I said..unusual)...which is odd because...while we've always had a pretty strong sexual attraction (since the day we met), he's never been particularly romantic...We have lots of sex, but we don't cuddle while watching a movie...or hold hands, etc...for example. So, after a few rough weeks/months post-disclosure, nothing has really changed...except for the fact that I've developed a "waiting for the other shoe to drop" syndrome....and I worry (after reading so many stories): Can he possibly be faking his way through it?...(all of the sex)...or will he (for lack of a better way to put this) grow gayer with age? (He's 36 now)
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Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 12, 2020 4:56 pm |
Sean: “(My favourite) It’s just sex. I don’t want a relationship with another man.”
If you're willing to entertain my curiosity, Sean—Why do you think this is so common? (particularly among men who identify as bisexual—or some other label like "heteroflexible" or "heteromantic"?)
Do you think it is internalized homophobia? Or maybe as a result of porn (which rarely portrays romantic connections) being their outlet?
I'm just curious if you had any thoughts on this because it's such a common thread here.
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 11, 2020 12:00 pm |
Dutchman wrote:
We consider the "born gay" statement as it's often used, as a limitation of free will. We like to express our freedom of thought and action through choices we make ourselves, not what contemporary culture imposes on us.
I apologize if I’m misinterpreting what you’re saying, Dutchman...but this sounds like the “living a gay lifestyle is a choice” argument religious ring wingers in my country make...So many spouses here are victims of this dangerous line of thinking. (Again, I’m sorry if I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.)
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 10, 2020 1:31 pm |
I don’t care what anyone else does in their marriage...nor should you. I very firmly believe no one should agree to any arrangement they’re uncomfortable with. That will only lead to resentment.
Like I said, I personally don’t see the point in being married if you’re wanting multiple partners. I honestly don’t even understand how anyone would juggle all of that (along with work, hobbies, children, etc.)
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 10, 2020 1:21 pm |
Sure—attraction to others is completely normal. But no one gets married expecting to fool around with others in a few years. I mean...what would be the point of being married? I don’t get it. Gay/straight/bi doesn’t matter. Monogamy is monogamy. Bisexuals don’t get a special pass just because they’re capable of being attracted to both spouses. Most of them agree with that. I would *personally* request a peaceful divorce if my husband ever asked me for a pass to fool around with anyone (man or woman doesn’t matter)....because the spouse that wants an open marriage is literally saying you are not enough....and I know I wouldn’t be able to get over that...That’s just me.
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » November 10, 2020 12:10 pm |
Sean—Your "straight up"/ non-sugar-coated perspective is so incredibly valuable here...and I really appreciate your presence in this forum. I think you're spot on about the internalized homophobia.If it weren't at play, our spouses would have been up front about their sexual identities early on. I truly wish we lived in a more accepting world—so there would be far less of us "straight spouses" who find themselves here...and far less "GID" spouses, too!
Personally, I think when a "bi" husband asks for an open marriage (which we see a lot here!), it's a red flag. Bisexuality means capable of being attracted to both genders—not needing both for fulfillment.
Strategies for MOM's » I need a break... » October 28, 2020 8:42 pm |
Breaks are good...and necessary, I think. As long as you stay true to your values and look after your own heart & well-being, you'll be fine.
Warm wishes <3
Support » Can the Gay go Away ? Other straight spouse stories » October 26, 2020 12:44 pm |
That's a lot for one person to go through alone, Virion...I hope you have a good support network. I'm not a psychiatrist...but I'm wondering if your husband's erratic behavior is possibly caused by something else (completely separate from the sexuality issue)...Is he seeing a counselor?
General Discussion » "Had to check it off the list"....... » October 24, 2020 1:05 pm |
Reading a lot of the stories in here (and other forums), the unfaithful partner very rarely confesses to more than there is discovered evidence for. Trickle-truthing, minimizing & blame-shifting are very common.
I only have the experience of being a full-time straight person—so I can't say whether or not a "gay phase" is a thing—but my instinct tells me it's probably not. Deep denial, repression, and shame are very real....and very common, though...I think that's why so many rationalize it as "just sex..." or "just a penis fetish" (I see this one a lot.) Bisexuals often lament what they call the "bi-cycle" where attraction to same-sex people is very intense at times...and muted during other times. Maybe that is what your ex-partner is experiencing....
I also think it's entirely possible that his same-sex experiences weren't enjoyable for him without the emotional element. That is true for many people (men/women/straight/gay/and everyone in between).
I totally understand that you want answers...and some sense of closure—but if you're not married/no longer partnered & have no children—maybe it's best (for your own mental health) to get some distance so you can heal from what was no doubt a pretty traumatizing experience.
General Discussion » Why do our GID wives (or husbands) refuse to come out? » October 21, 2020 7:10 pm |
rekamc wrote:
Julian_Stone wrote:
What were some of the things that clued you in to your wife's non-straight sexuality?
sigh... I'm gonna write all the obvious signs when I'm back home later tonight. I'm gonna feel like a massive idiot too because it was/is blatantly evident that she is gay/les. I honestly can't believe all "this" (clues, signs, innuendos, hints and whatnot) went by me without me noticing it
Do not beat yourself up over this. This is the last thing any of us expected would happen to us...
I mean, Jesus, even Elton John had a wife up until the late 80s (!!)