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Support » How to process it all? » February 26, 2023 9:48 am

Marianne
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Misery, I believe you are only responsible for your half of the relationship, not his. You've already shown your support clearly enough. To accept it or reject it is his decision and his own responsibility. I know this is very hard to accept but it's part of the untangling. Try to focus on your own needs instead.

General Discussion » The affect on your self-image and a bit of venting, in reverse order » February 5, 2023 6:16 am

Marianne
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My trans husband also said he was the same person he's always been... while slowly trying to transform into a twisted version of woman in front of my eyes. I mean, WTF?! I tried to understand his point of view because I love him. But my mind simply refused to process it.
When I think about it now, it really proves he's been a liar all his life.

Is He/She Gay » Husband GID or OW? » January 12, 2023 9:40 am

Marianne
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Pinklady wrote:

Then he calls me while I’m on the school run asking if I want anything from the shop on his way home from work. When he got home he spoke to me as normal, as if everything is all rosy - and just like that I feel like I’ve got this all wrong.

Why is this happening? As soon as I’m in his presence again, it all feels like before I even suspected TGT. Like OMG I’ve got it all wrong, he is not gay.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes. That's exactly how manipulation works.

I've dated a narcissist many years ago. He wasn't gay but he had the same ability as your husband: to dispel other people's doubts by acting all nice and friendly. I didn't understand it back then. Even after the breakup, I spent years trying to figure out why he said some things because it simply made no sense.

I don't know how much you know about narcissistic personality disorder and manipulation but maybe you should look into it.

Is He/She Gay » Husband GID or OW? » January 6, 2023 5:00 am

Marianne
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Pinklady wrote:

Last night after “trying to make me feel better” he told me I have a personality disorder and that I do not have the qualities that a “proper” woman has. And for a man to treat his woman with respect the woman first needs to show proper woman qualities to her man. I hid in the bathroom and sobbed like a baby. This is all after he told me he has to watch women flashing their boobs on tik tok to have a w*nk because I don’t put out enough.

I wish somebody, ANYBODY but him, knew exactly what’s going on and could TELL me how to FIX this mess.

Maybe I do have a personality disorder. My mum was a very jealous woman and Always thought my dad was cheating on her or looking at other women. My husband knows about this and he now says I am just like my mum. Although my mum NEVER thought my dad could be gay. I guess that paranoia of mine wasn’t inherited.

Pinklady, I suggest you read the list of manipulation techniques on this page. Write down all that apply to your husband (and don't doubt yourself while you're at it).

If you find out he uses any manipulation technique on you regularly and systematically, then there is absolutely nothing you can do to change him. Manipulators simply refuse to listen. Don't waste your time trying to understand his behavior or to make him understand your feelings. You cannot change any of this. He is unable and/or unwilling to care about you, so it must be you who cares about you.

As for the "gay or not gay" dilemma, you can do something similar: listen to Sean's podcast and write down all that he mentions about GID husbands' behavior that seems relevant to your situation. (Remember that no straight man would ever behave like that.)

I don't know if this works for you but writing things down often helps me to see the situation more cl

Support » What do outsiders say? impact on kids? » January 1, 2023 1:51 pm

Marianne
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From the storytelling point of view... I have to say that LGBT* people have chosen a powerful narrative to tell. "I've been suffering for years. But then I found my true self. And now all I need is just your acceptance and then I can live the rest of my life in perfect happiness." 

To be fair, our stories are... somehow less wonderful to hear. Not so easy to tell because of the deep betrayal. We've been blindsided, lied to, cheated on, manipulated. The only happy ending we can hope for is to heal our hearts.

Or maybe someone else can tell the story of straightspouses better than I can imagine.

Support » Feel lost » December 29, 2022 2:11 pm

Marianne
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Nadine, I meant declaration of nullity according to the church law. My husband is trans and he didn't tell me some things I had right to know before marriage, which I hope will be sufficient. I was waiting for his official diagnosis to have some hard evidence.

Support » Adrift » December 28, 2022 5:26 pm

Marianne
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Recently I realized that universe sends broken misfits to other people as well... they just choose to ignore it. Many of us have the savior syndrome. At one point in my life I saw my own husband as a stray cat that just needed more love to be healed.

(I'm not saying you should abandon your pets! I understand they are important for you. It's just something to think about.)

Support » Feel lost » December 28, 2022 12:03 pm

Marianne
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Hi all,

I want to try for annulment next year. I'm rather scared and I haven't started yet but I will try. It isn't nice but it will set me free in some ways.

And I've booked a short cruise on a traditional sailing ship. Always wanted to try that

Thank you for all the stories you share. It means a lot to me.

General Discussion » I’m new..why does this hurt so bad and why am I so damn confused? » December 16, 2022 12:50 pm

Marianne
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Yes, we straight spouses didn't get a vote in any of this. We were tricked into marrying someone we would never consider. And we are expected to just accept anything the trans spouse comes up with. From my own story and from others I've heard, this is very common. Maybe trans spouses are simply unable to consider other peoples feelings. Maybe they don't care. 

In any case: YOU must be the one who cares about your feelings. As Daryl recommended, focus on your health and your wellbeing. Be kind to yourself and know that all your feelings are completely normal and valid in your situation.

General Discussion » I’m new..why does this hurt so bad and why am I so damn confused? » December 15, 2022 3:20 pm

Marianne
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JKvali: I hear you. More or less the same happened to me.

I still love the man I married but he made it clear that the "man" was just a mask, he is dead, he was never real. I hate the new person, the impostor. We are no longer together. When he asked me to call him by his fake female name, I just said no. I'm not doing that. If it makes him happy, he can live any way he likes, but it's not my duty to be his cheerleader if the cost would be my own sanity.

I'm sorry if I got too emotional over this. It happened one year ago and the anniversary is bringing it all back. I just wanted to say: I know what it's like. It's grossly unfair. It's awfully painful. A nuke to your face. A complete brainfuck.

But you can survive this and heal. 

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