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February 25, 2023 8:49 pm  #1


How to process it all?

I will try to keep this short but admittedly its a long story. To be clear me and husband will be officially divorced next month. However I am still trying to process everything I've learned over the last 8 months or so.

In May 2022, I figured out that my husband was having an affair. And I wish it was that simple. That day, when he found me reading his text messages, he explained that he's been battling his gender identity for years. I learned that in our 18 years of marriage, over a 20vyear relationship about 10 years ago he started to have other 'wants" that he never ever shared with me. I knew he watched porn and truly did not care, however, I had no idea what exactly he was watching. According to him it escalated quickly to well, female trans without the final surgery. He says he never did anything in person with anyone, and silly me I am inclined to believe him on that part. I was completely clueless, though I will say around this time our sex life declined. Of course I thought it was all on me at the time, but looking back I can see the lack of interest or satisfaction on his part, and I think subconsciously I picked up on that.

Fast forward to 2021 when he reconnected with an ex-girlfriend from high school (24 years ago). He did not hide that they were talking, just how much and to what extent. It went from email to phone calls, to video chats, to sexting and eventually a meet up in a cabin for 5 days (Shes 2 states away) Yes I said, she. And this is where it all gets so dang complicated. According to my soon to be ex-husband, he figured out he is more female than male. He disclosed to her, and talked about things I never ever know about him, after 20+ years of being together. But he is without a doubt attracted to the female form, though admittedly will watch and get excited by MOM, as long as one is feminine enough. And he shared all of this with her, and more. I guess shes ok with it?

But here's the rub, he never shared any of this with me. Not once. In our 20 years relationship in 10 years of him figuring things out on his own. He was certain, me and his entire family (parents and sister) would completely disown him if we found out. And it makes him angry that now that we have found out, not one of us have abandoned him. We support him as he tries to figure out his gender identity. I really do hope he figures out who he/she is. However I can not stand for the affair he has, and continues to have. To put it bluntly, he choose her over me. They have moved in together before divorce papers were even filed. This mess that he's made, is inexcusable. And what I cant fathom is the lies or more the secrecy he's kept for a decade. How you betray your spouse in such a way, I know I'll never understand.

And the fallout from this is so confusing. Sure I can tell people were divorcing cuz he's living the affair partner. Thats the easy part right. How do I explain he started talking to the other woman because he needed someone outside of his family and friends to disclose an even bigger lie. To keep something so meaningful to the one you've promised to share everything with. My entire life with him as been a lie. And that there, is the hardest part. Half our relationship he's kept things, wants, feelings, and thoughts from me, when I shared absolutely everything with him.
And this gender identify issue just muddies the waters. I want to support him. i want him to figure it out, and be stronger. But how can I when hes shacked up with someone else and left me like 20 years means nothing. I know this site isn't for infidelity and betrayal but this extra layer of things makes it so much worse and I have no idea where to turn for help. ( yes I'm in therapy but lets be honest its hard to find one that knows what were really talking about).

So here I am writing this all down. Not sure of the purpose. The course for me is clear. Divorce is filed, court date a month away after waiting the mandatory 4 months. I just need to figure out how to live with everything. Looking for a friend I suppose. Someone that might know a thing about what I am talking about.
​If you've made it this far, thanks for reading my story.

 

February 25, 2023 9:17 pm  #2


Re: How to process it all?

It's hard.  My trans-identified ex did somewhat the same thing, disclosing to another woman, and sharing it all with her, for I don't know how long before he told me.  (It could have been several years.)  To know that he was telling her intimate secrets about himself (and probably about me and us) was an extra added helping of betrayal.  (He didn't move in with her, however.) 

You will undoubtedly be processing this experience, including the betrayal and the confusion, for some time to come.  But divorce means that his problems are no longer yours to help him through  

 I found Chump Lady very helpful (it's an infidelity site, informed by the idea that the way to recover from infidelity is to leave: Leave a Cheater, Gain a Life).  For one thing, there are a number of posts on character disorders, which helped me understand a lot about my ex, and about what I'd experienced with him.  

 

February 25, 2023 10:24 pm  #3


Re: How to process it all?

Funny I think Chump Lady is how I ended up here. There’s something very unique when you thrown in a LGBTQ+ aspect to a physical betrayal in a relationship.

I think part of the hardest part is the decisions he made without me. He decided I wouldn’t support him. He took away my ability to be there for him. He decided the future we would have without ever talking to me about it.  A fantasy and nightmare in his mind in so many ways. And they have turned into my own living nightmare but for very different reasons.

And I’m left with no choices. And he’s the one that gets angry when I don’t say what he expects. Pushes me farther and farther away if I even try to show basic support for him. But also I’m the one “minimizing” what he’s going through cuz I can only focus on the affair. Little does he know ( though I’ve said it a thousand times since) that his gender identity is not my concern. It’s not what causes my pain nor is it what is unforgivable. No it’s the betrayal, the lies, the hidden truths of himself for 10 years that I can’t just “get over”. So of course the other woman is easier. She doesn’t come with the consequences and the guilt that he sees when he looks at me.

So I guess I’m asking how do I show him support when he won’t take any of it from me.  Any beards or whatever it’s called on this figure out how to navigate this when your spouse/partner has completely turned away from you after discovery?

Even if I know there’s no romantic/love relationship left between us. He needs too much help and I still love him. I don’t know how to help him from a distance and keep my own sanity.

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February 26, 2023 1:33 am  #4


Re: How to process it all?

Am sorry you're going through this. My late GIDXH seemed to like transwomen and men.  He wasn't attracted to women.

Misery wrote:

So I guess I’m asking how do I show him support when he won’t take any of it from me.  Any beards or whatever it’s called on this figure out how to navigate this when your spouse/partner has completely turned away from you after discovery?.

You need to give yourself support to get over this debacle he caused. He treated you terribly. What kind of person does this?  You love people and use things. He's got it backwards.

It may be a blessing in disguise that he wants to cut ties. He is a cruel and uncaring husband.  You deserve better.
 

Last edited by MJM017 (February 26, 2023 1:35 am)


No - It's not too late. It's not hopeless. Even there, there's something I can do. I just have to find the will. Ikiru (1952), film directed by Akira Kurosawa 
 

February 26, 2023 9:48 am  #5


Re: How to process it all?

Misery, I believe you are only responsible for your half of the relationship, not his. You've already shown your support clearly enough. To accept it or reject it is his decision and his own responsibility. I know this is very hard to accept but it's part of the untangling. Try to focus on your own needs instead.

 

February 26, 2023 3:54 pm  #6


Re: How to process it all?

it's victim blaming again, he's making it like it's your fault he couldn't be supported by you.

Reel it back one step - he lied to you in the first place, and now he is the one blowing up the marriage.

I'm glad you found this forum you need lots of support yourself right now.  He hasn't treated you well at all.

 

 

February 27, 2023 2:04 pm  #7


Re: How to process it all?

I wish I had moved to end things as quickly as you seem to have. Shoulda, coulda, woulda though right?

And you have empathy for what he's going through, that's commendable but do people...your family/friends...have empathy for you, have you redressed the balance of support so you're not carrying this burden of secrets by yourself? 

The man I'm separating from had his own 'soundingboard', a woman he could tell his secrets to, a sexual r'ship he felt comfortable to be himself (bisexual) in, a woman who was okay with anal (blergh)

I believe these men with fantasies of being somebody/something else have to gravitate to women they feel will be accepting of their differences. And when that woman pushes back and says "wait a minute...!" the easiest thing for them to do is just look for somebody else who hasn't been through our journey.

It'll be interesting to see how long that r'ship lasts...with the man you married and the affair partner

Elle


KIA KAHA                       
 

February 27, 2023 5:19 pm  #8


Re: How to process it all?

My late ex had a long distance female friend who appeared shortly after we married. He emailed her a few times daily without fail.  She had a bf but lived with her much older aunt. He repeated a few times not to be worried she lived with her aunt. She was the one who told me he passed away.  She maintains his Facebook page in memory.

I looked at her FB photo in 2021 with her wearing the LGBTQ rainbow.  I now know you're gay! Am thinking this older aunt was her live-in partner.

Count me in. I too had husband who looked for emotional support elsewhere. 

Am glad I never have to see him again.

Edited to say: My therapist thinks he was a psychopath. It's hard to know if this was a real friendship or one aimed to keep me off kilter and cause pain. He enjoyed hurting me. That's the worst aspect of a personality disorder.

Last edited by MJM017 (February 27, 2023 5:33 pm)


No - It's not too late. It's not hopeless. Even there, there's something I can do. I just have to find the will. Ikiru (1952), film directed by Akira Kurosawa 
 

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