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Strategies for MOM's » Just found out my Fiancé is Gay. Can we make this work? » July 5, 2024 4:12 pm

roka
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Oops, that got heated quickly....
Like I said, thanks for your concern. And thanks for the congratulations too

I'm sure that whether MOM or "normal" couple, nothing is guaranteed and every marriage (and relationship) is a lot of work. We've already put a lot into ours and are willing to continue to do so. 
I don't think I need to justify my decision. But again, I want to say to those in the same situation I was in three years ago that it might be worth working through the doubts and maybe finding a "yes" for each other. 
I'm sure that not every straight / SSA couple is doomed to failure per se. And not every couple is guaranteed a happy life for the rest of their lives. 
Do I know what the future will bring? Of course not. Can I say whether we will live "till death do us part" or give up sooner? No (but hopefully not). 
But who can? Nobody. Ultimately, it depends on the two people who (want to) enter into a relationship with each other. For many, the SSA will be a reason to end the relationship or not to enter into it in the first place. But there will be those who will make the same decision as me. For the challenging relationship. And there will be those for whom this is the right decision and who will find happiness in it. 

I am aware that I am very lucky to have a husband who has been honest with me from the very beginning. Even before we became a couple, he was open about his SSA. And damn, was that hard for him. And hell, it broke my heart at first. 
But from that starting point, we were able to build our relationship on trust and honesty. At no point was I pressured or manipulated by him. On the contrary, he always kept the door open for me to leave. It was my decision to stay and get to know the whole person. And yes, the SSA aspect is a big challenge. But so is the fact that he's rational and I'm more emotional. That's a much bigger challenge in our everyday lives. 
I'm sorry for every single one of you who has been (intentionally) hurt and betr

Strategies for MOM's » Just found out my Fiancé is Gay. Can we make this work? » June 24, 2024 1:32 am

roka
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Hi guys,
I appreciate your warnings - certainly based on the experiences you have had.
We never made the decision for our relationship lightly, but with an awareness of the unknown uncertainties that lay ahead.

There was only one time when I felt like running away and that was when my husband told me (at the beginning of our relationship) that he was struggling with his sexual orientation. But I stayed. I got to know him and learned to love him. With everything that is part of him. And vice versa for him.

We got married last month. And that really changed things for us. My husband has gained a lot of self-confidence. The framework that marriage gives us gives him (and me) security. We take "for better or for worse" very seriously. And I'm convinced that I'm not sugarcoating it when I assume that it's not just MOMs who aren't always in sync sexually. In my opinion, we are not that different from heterosexual couples.

Yes, the challenge really is desire. What does my husband desire? Is it me? And can he give me the desired feeling of being desired and desirable?
Yes, he can. And the fact that he doesn't do this all the time also has to do with his personality and not just with the SSA. And the fact that I can't always give him what he craves is also normal.
In my opinion, relationships are about putting the other person's well-being above your own. And as long as both partners agree on this, many things are possible.

I'm not saying that our way has to work for all couples with SSA issues. But for us, the key is trust and establishing habits. My partner has been very shy, reserved and inhibited and we are working together to make him more relaxed and at ease. The fact that he can enjoy physicality has grown. And with that, a strong connection has grown between us because we are walking this path together.  
And this process is also very fortunate for me. Would I have been happy if some things had gone faster? Sure. Do I sometimes long for things that my partner ca

Strategies for MOM's » This may sound strange, but it makes perfect sense to me. » January 3, 2024 6:33 am

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Dear LonelyDude,
I haven´t been online for quite a while and so I only read your question today. 
I am familiar with the feeling of being unwanted, undesirable and unattractive. My finacé has a very low sexdrive on top on his general attraction to men while I´m a woman. 
I´m happy to tell some more of why we are engaged anyway, but wanted to respond to your question on how to cope with these feelings. 
It was very hard for me. Still is sometimes. What helped me most was a confidante with similar experience. My financé is part of a group of men struggeling with their sexuality and actually it was him who connected me with the wife of another man. With her I could talk openly and she could relate by own experience. She allowed me to get in contact with her anytime I needed (even if I just wanted to scream from frustration). 
That woman is part of the reason why we´re still in this relationship. 
The other (not less significant) part is: I can talk about my feelings with my partner and he is willing to meet my needs. This quite often means me telling him explicitly what my needs are. 
Sometimes it's a balancing act between what I long for and what he can give me. But we´re willing to work through the difficulties, knowing how much we love and value one another. 

Please feel free to ask, if you have any questions. 
I´m wishing you all the best!

Strategies for MOM's » Making it work » September 5, 2022 11:07 am

roka
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Blackie563 wrote:

since my wife says I've been the perfect husband, in every way for 20 years, why would her feelings for the woman at the gym, who is married to a man and unaware impact us at all? She says she has what she wants, so why not focus on that? I guess that's what I want, she has to come to that on her own. 

I am sorry for you being hurt, Blackie!
Isn´t it the same thing with all of us, straigth or SSA or whatever? In the end it is a choice what we do and if we follow our desires. Down the path I might fall for another man. My SSA partner might fall for a man. The question is, what our commitment to each other means to us, isn´t it? 
I acknoledge that it might be a tad different when someone supressed his or her SSA, but still fidelity is a chioce. I even think loving someone is a choice to a certain extent. Both will have to make that choice constantly to uphold a relationship. 

Strategies for MOM's » Just found out my Fiancé is Gay. Can we make this work? » September 5, 2022 7:05 am

roka
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I just revisited this old post and stumbled across this sentence of @Dutchman again:

Dutchman wrote:

But what are his thoughts about sexual attraction as a result of love? Sure, usually it's the other way around, but who cares? Is there a law against approaching things (differently) than expected from mainstream?

About one and a half years later I´m still in the same relationship and I wanted to share some of my story. Maybe someone will find this helpful / hopeful. 

From falling in love and rushing in a relationship we have evolved into a very deep comitted partnership with heartfelt appreciation for the other person in their uniqueness. In a way the challenges and insecurities we both have to face are similar, although they might seem to be fundamentally different. 
Where my partner always struggled with issues of "being enough" and feeling accepted in general, I have had doubts wheter I could "be enough" as a woman to him.

Through countless talks and some rough times I discovered that within his SSA he is more on the asexual side of the spectre. Somehow this has relieved me. I feel less being in a competition with men he might be attracted to. His expression of not really being that much into the physical part of a relationship has in no way made anything easier on the practical part, but in my head. From there on the question was more, will he be interested in me and less will he be interested in me although I am a woman.
He always identified as being SSA and therefore this second question still is immanent, but somehow less for me. I guess that helped me being more relaxed in the whole process.

And this leads me back to the quote. My partner has indeed over time discovered a degree of sexual attraction to me as a result of love. From him not wanting any physical contact apart from holding hands, him being attracted to my mind, my voice, my personality (how wonderful and yet so frustrating when you long for being desired fo

Strategies for MOM's » Cis hetero F with MTF partner... Resources? / Can this work? » September 24, 2021 1:22 am

roka
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Dear Rae.123, 
I feel you, I really do!

When the man I fell in love with told me that he has been attracted to men since he was young, but decided to stay alone rather than enter into a relationship, it broke my heart. It has evolved that we have entered into a relationship, it is not always and not everything easy, but it is good for both of us. And also I feel lonely in my position. There is not much acceptance for his decision, and I also cannot cheerfully tell everyone what the reason for our challenges is without exposing him - which I definitely don't want to do. 
In that respect, you really have my fullest sympathy!

You asked for positive stories and that´s the main reason I´m writing
I had a school friend who always had something exalted-feminine. Even back then he was dating a girl, whom he later married as well. They went through the process of his sex change together and are still married today and happy too. 
I understand that in addition to the personal burden that such a process brings, the societal reaction here must really be an enormous challenge. And I cannot imagine mastering such a situation alone. It needs good pastoral / psychological care. 
I wish you only the best for your further path!

Hugs,
Kate

Strategies for MOM's » Just found out my Fiancé is Gay. Can we make this work? » April 29, 2021 8:22 am

roka
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Thanks again, Dutchman. 

I´m well aware of the pitfalls and since we´re striving for the things you mentioned in your post I guess we´ve got as good a chance at everything turning out right (or not) as any relationship that´s facing challenges. 
And since this whole relationship thing is new to both of us, we might as well discover that it might be easier than imagined. Or not. Who knows. But we´re willing to accept each other as we are, flaws and challenges included. It´s a progress of finding out what we both want individually and as a couple while being open about the challenges we´re facing and the joy we´re sharing. 

Concerning the aspect of religion: he decided not to have a relationship rather than one that went against his beliefs. Meanwhile he has put a lot of work in the self-acceptance part and got to a pretty good point. We´ve hat conversations about that and he´s definetly not trying to cover up or surpress his same-sex attraction by being in a relationship now. Suprisingly enough he wants to be in a relationship with me and has been very open and considerate towards me since the beginning of us dating.  
The thing that´s completely open as of now is the extend of his sexual attraction towards me. We´re moving slowly, taking a lot of time to discover what´s good and where we have to wait for the yet unknown outcome. So it´s a precess, sometimes testing my patience, yes. But when you´re in love, you´re in love. And love is patient

I´m glad I can share my situation here. As you can imagine, it´s not a topic you talk about with a lot of people. 

Strategies for MOM's » Just found out my Fiancé is Gay. Can we make this work? » April 19, 2021 9:51 am

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I just came across this forum today, looking for answers to similar questians as @Anonymous1217. 
I`m at the beginning of a relationship, with a man who came out to me as having had homosexual tendencies since his teens (he´s around 40 now). Due to his religious beliefs he decided to never act out on these and hasn´t been in a relationship at all (neither with a woman nor a man). 
Although I´m clear with my sexuality (I´m a straight woman), I haven´t been in a relationship either - it just never quite worked out.
So it´s not just having to figure out all of the basic relationship-stuff, that others work through in their teens, therer´s that big bubble of uncertainty above our heads.

Actually at this moment I just wanted to say thank you to @Dutchman for your post about thinking "outside the box". It just felt like a little ray of sunshine to me in an otherwise mainly dark picture. 
I´m glad I found this forum and I´m looking forward to exchange experiences. 

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