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Support » Wife is gay, collateral damage be damned! Help me figure my this out » November 9, 2018 6:14 pm

MasONeil
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James ... consider this ... if her physical and emotional ("I love you") betrayal was with a man would you still want her? Would you allow her an open marriage with any man that is her current love interest?

The d-day of my 27 year marriage was 8-18-18 ... the shock and disbelief was overwhelming. The next day I hit the bargaining stage "please don't leave me alone!" He replied that he needed to leave and live the life he was meant to lead. As I pondered that, I realized I didn't want to be privy to anything that he was doing. Him having the life that we were supposed to have together ... but now is gone. Yes, we will be separating. Yes, I will be filing for a divorce. I look back on our life together and wonder when the fraud started? I don't believe he thought he was gay when we got married. He's not an "I've always known" kinda gay. But everything that I poured into our marriage was wasted on someone that can never return the same.

The heart break is real, but you must move forward for your kids. Be kind to yourself. Reading the book, "The Other Side of the Closet: The Coming-Out Crisis for Straight Spouses and Families" helped me a lot. It gives perspective from several situations. Your journey ahead is only yours to choose. Do not give that control away to someone you can't be faithful to you and your marriage. Seek a support group in your area. Get yourself a therapist someone just for you. It is only when you take care of yourself that you are able to 'help' others around you. 

Sending bright light, love and prayers.

Support » Stunned and Shattered » November 5, 2018 10:01 am

MasONeil
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Consider this ... you took responsibility for your own actions. You told him what had happened and were sorry and worked through it through therapy. Your GH is NOT taking responsibility for his own actions. Instead he took the opportunity to walk away from therapy. You did not cause him to cheat, it was his choice for his own actions. Chances are he has been cheating all along. 

My adult children are also stunned and shocked by my STBXGH. They have quickly come to realize that it really isn't effecting them that much. They know that we are both still their parents and as such we are still here for all of them ... we will just be living separately.

As for having a marriage that represented what a lifelong commitment ... this has hit me the hardest. I now wonder how much of my GH's poor treatment of me for the last few years has translated to my sons ... that terrifies me. I hope my sons have enough integrity and kindness to treat their partners with more respect than I was treated. (I really didn't see how bad it was until I looked back with full knowledge of my situation.) You should also consider how you were being treated when you made your own mistake, perhaps you were realizing things just weren't right all along?

You did not make him do anything! Those are all his choices that he has to own. Do not allow him to deflect his own responsibility on you. My husband tried to do that and on every instance I could look and him squarely and state ... "that's not me, that is YOU."

Forgive yourself, love yourself, take care of yourself. 

Support » hi I’m new, recently found out and husband going on a date. » November 5, 2018 8:18 am

MasONeil
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Willow ... would you still live with your husband or want your husband around if he was dating women? Would you want to know when he was on a date with another woman?

I know that I can never live that way. After 27 years of marriage to a gay man, we are separating, selling our home of 25 years, and moving forward separately. When I found out on 8/18/18, I initially wanted to remain together ... but I quickly realized that being present while my GH was out living the life that we should be living would be absolutely unbearable for me.

Now that I know am I moving forward on my own, I have gained some strength and some pride back. I know that I will never be able to change him being gay. I know I would never had deliberately married gay man (that just sounds crazy!). So my path forward is clear to me.

I hope that you are taking care of yourself (joining here is a great step forward). Seek a support group and/or a therapist.

Support » It's Finally Over » November 5, 2018 8:07 am

MasONeil
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I honestly don't know what to say. I myself have thought I would be happier if my STBXGH were dead. After 27 years of marriage, I am the one who feels dead ... purely a shell of a human. I do know that if/when he does die, I will mourn deeply for him. Such a conflict of emotions at all times no matter where we are in this journey. 

Always ... remember to take care of yourself first! It is only then that you can assist/help others.
Sending bright light, hugs, love and prayers.
 

Support » Need to talk to someone » October 16, 2018 1:47 pm

MasONeil
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There is a Boston area group if you are in that area. Just use the contact page to get hooked up with it.

So glad your daughter is getting the help she needs. We are still seeking the correct placement for our son. We have a big meeting tomorrow with DCF. Hopefully we will get a resolution.

You know what is best for your son. Everything in YOUR own time.
Sending bright light and prayers.
Take Care of yourself!
 

Support » Need to talk to someone » October 16, 2018 10:55 am

MasONeil
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So sorry you have the need to be in this group, but we are here for you.

My d-day was August 18th. On August 19th my GH of 27 years told me he was leaving me. We have three children 26, 23, and 19. Our youngest was foster/adopted and has a wide range of issues and is custody of the state at the moment. We are currently filing for Co-Guardianship of an Incapacitated Person. 

When to tell the kids. You can only do what is right for you. I can tell you that I was not willing to live with lies or half truths. I insisted that all of our children be told ASAP. My GH wanted to wait for a month because it was not a good time, blah, blah, blah. Lots of excuses. I told him and stood by the fact ... "There is NEVER going to be a good time!" And so all our children were told by August 31st. Yes, even our mentally ill child. They were all shocked and took time to process what was/is going on. Our youngest remarkably did amazing! The best part about it was not having to pretend that things are ok. If mom is not exactly doing well, they know exactly why. The truth indeed set me free. I am much more easily able to move forward. 

As for meeting someone new, I am not there yet nor do I know if I ever will be. Yet I have been thinking about it. I'm not an internet dating kind of girl. Just for my own sanity, I know I will need to be getting out and rediscovering who I am ... just to be around people. Someone suggested www.meetup.com. It is a sight that lists the local groups around you ... so many different groups on different topics or activities. That would be the route I would go. Me starting to do things that interest me or that I love. If I meet someone, so be it. If I don't meet someone, I'm still enjoying learning who I am all over again.

Take Care of yourself!
God Bless

General Discussion » Confused » October 14, 2018 10:56 am

MasONeil
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Being a good father is not based on sexual orientation. I'm glad that he is a good father to your daughter and hope he continues to do so. I'm also glad he is taking responsibility for what his lack of what a marriage means and how he has failed yours. My STBXGH has done the same. It is his fault ... 100%. My husband stated "you deserve to be happy and find someone." This is deflective and only echos exactly what HE wants. I didn't want any of this mess. I thought I had married an honest man, who knew he was attracted to me, and wanted to be with me for the rest of my life. Clearly this is NOT the case. He has cheated on me with a man. THAT is not ok with me! I have to admit that the self-loathing going on in my husband actually makes me feel better (awful but very true). I doubt it compares with the self-loathing, loniness, and depression that I have been struggling with for at least the last 20 years of our 27 years of marriage ... he did that to me. You did nothing to your husband; let him own what he has done to you. 

If you haven't stopped being intimate with your GH, I strongly suggest that you do so. Then go get tested for STDs. Now is the time to take care of yourself. When you take care of yourself, you will be better equiped to care for your daughter and the rest of this mess. God Bless

Support » Co-parenting is a nightmare! » September 29, 2018 8:08 am

MasONeil
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I'm speechless ... I really can't add much as our situations are different in too many ways. What I can tell you, at least in Massachusetts, that when you file for divorce your funds automatically go under a restraining order. So no large purchases can be made without consent of both parties. If he is spending lots of money on transgendering ... this should freeze those funds until things are settled between you so its not coming out of your "half" persay.

General Discussion » Scared. » September 29, 2018 7:33 am

MasONeil
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Mark, I am so very sorry that you need to be here, but very glad that you have found this forum.

I found out on August 18th my husband was gay. On August 19th he told me that he was leaving me after 27 years of marriage. I remember thinking we could be together and live separate lives in the same space. The more this thought soaked in, I realized that I didn't want to be exposed to him "finding himself" and that I just really didn't want to know about it on a daily basis. Accepting my marriage was over was devasting but also allowed me to seek a brighter future for my self. In reflecting back, especially that previous 9 months of marriage, I realized how very badly he had been treating me. He also admitted to having an affair. I'm still trying to get over the "coming out as gay" to even get truly pissed off that he cheated on me!

As we moved forward, I made it clear to him that I would not live a lie and hide things from my kids (all young adults) and my family. I am not the kind of person who can hide stuff from people I love. Harboring secrets will only hurt you and your relationships with them. Make no mistake, your kids already know something is going on and were probably more aware of it than you were. Give them age appropriate truth, together if possible. I gave GH an ultimatium to tell our children by September 1st or I would tell them. He abliged and we told them together.

As my new reality washed over me, I was able to actually feel some relief from knowing that NONE of what had been going on between us and our marriage was caused by me! We are still living together until our home sells in the spring. But now, I'm no longer walking on egg shells everytime he walks into the room. I'm slowly building back up my self esteem and rediscovering who I am now. (And I'm pretty amazing ;-) When I do interact with my GH I always try to do so with kindness if not love. I chose to work through this with as much love in my heart as possible ... you actually can chose

Support » How to tell kids that Mum's friend who is a girl is not that... » September 29, 2018 6:49 am

MasONeil
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My situation is different in some aspects, but children are children ... mine all happen to be 19, 23, and 26. For me, living a lie by protecting their father's secret was not going to work for me. I gave him an ultimatium, we tell them together or I will tell them and I set a date for this to be accomplished by.

I do believe that telling them with both of us there was important. It was good for our children to see that I was ok (for the most part), that we were working things out for the best of both of us, and that we are still both their parents.

Speak truth in an age appropriate way. You know your kids the best and how much specifics that they can handle. Our conversations started with my GH announced that he was gay. From there our children lead the conversation and asked questions that popped into their heads. Ironically our 19 year old (who is special needs and more emotionally like an 11 year old) was the most direct with his questioning. We simply answered as age appropriately and honestly. My husband tried to soften some of the statements and I had to clarify more specifically because it was more truthful. Yes, all of our children were devastated (especially the youngest). Our conversation also was when we told them that after 27 years of marriage we were separating ... just a huge bomb on their reality of our family. But, afterwards in the days following they continued to ask questions and realized that things for the most part really haven't changed for them (since you are already divorced, this may also ring true for your children also). If you are able to have both of you there at the same time, they will be assured that everyone is on the same page (for one of our children I was Skyped in for the disclosure).

As for the religious aspect of it ... 
I am a Catholic, and I have approached this with my kids (especially the youngest), that God created all of us. Some people are just born differently. Sometimes they are visible birth defects like missin

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