Support » Is it possible? » July 8, 2016 5:08 pm |
Flakesofglitter,
I felt EXACTLY like you do. My body shut down on me. I was devastated, sad, angry, felt like my emotions were all over the place. And so desperate to save the marriage I even backtracked once he said he was divorcing me. I was all, if you want an open marriage (which he had suggested), fine, then I'll do that. ANYTHING not to break up our marriage of nearly 20 years and our three kids. Fortunately he said no.
It SUCKS HUGE RHINO BALLS (pardon the expression) at first. Grief is so overwhelming. Do you have any family or friends you can talk with? Do you have a therapist? (Not one you may have seen with your husband, but one just for you.) I know right now you are scared as hell and you want him back. That feeling will fade, I PROMISE.
Please hang in there and keep on writing here. There is so much good advice and support on the forum.
Best,
Sue
Support » Venting -- slightly superficial -- bi vs gay » July 8, 2016 11:31 am |
Hey, everybody,
Something is really bothering me that seems like it shouldn't. I know I am getting hung up on linguistics and answers and shouldn't, but I thought venting here might help me get it out of my system, at least.
As part of another discussion on Facebook (i.e., it was not a status update), my not-yet-ex husband mentioned that he was "bisexual." The discussion was about the recent shootings of African Americans and the cops in Dallas. He was talking about discrimination he had experienced as a "bisexual" person living with his partner.
The fact that he continually refers to himself as bisexual really, really irks me to no end. I've done some thinking about this and really looking inside myself and I think I've figured out why it bothers me so much. I feel like he's saying he's bisexual, rather than gay, as a way to make our marriage look legitimate, and make him look like less of an asshole for tearing apart a 20 year partnership, and taking down three kids and a wife with a ship he sunk. I feel like it says, well I could have stayed with Sue, because I'm bi, not gay. I CHOSE to leave her. I didn't want to be with her in particular. It wasn't that I needed to be with a man, it was that I needed to get out of my miserable marriage.
Now I guess he could be bi. But I really deep down think he's gay. And he's only 10 months into the coming out process, so still going through a lot of identity crisis-type behavior.
I feel like when he says "bi" he's trying not to own his shit. He has verbally, as I've mentioned in another post, told me that he left because he needed to get away from me. "I'm bi, see, so I could have stayed, or left you just as easily for a woman, I just chose a man." That's pretty much directly what he said to me at one point.
I feel like that tells the world it was our marriage or me that wasn't working. When in fact, he never complained about our marriage or me for decades, and I know he's using this framework of deflection to avoi
Support » Confused husband » July 6, 2016 9:45 pm |
I'm so sorry you're going through this. At the beginning it's incredibly painful and scary. I am ten months out from my husband leaving me ... am a SAHM looking for a job and going through the divorce. It does get better. You need a good therapist (and it won't be your husband's -- that's unethical) and some family or friends to lean on. Come here a lot. This forum kept me going.
Support » See...it can always be worse » July 6, 2016 9:16 pm |
SW,
I am SO, SO sorry! I will be praying for your swift recovery! I'm so glad you weren't hurt worse, but hate that you are in pain.
Best wishes for a swift recovery,
Sue
Support » Not outing you. Outing me. » July 4, 2016 11:19 pm |
Rick,
I so hope you will be able to come out of the closet as soon as possible. Because this is not just your wife's story to tell. You have lived it, you have hurt, you have suffered. You have a story to tell and it is as much yours as it is hers.
I truly believe in this quote from the theologian Frederick Buechner: “What we hunger for perhaps more than anything else is to be known in our full humanness, and yet that is often just what we also fear more than anything else. It is important to tell at least from time to time the secret of who we truly and fully are . . . because otherwise we run the risk of losing track of who we truly and fully are and little by little come to accept instead the highly edited version which we put forth in hope that the world will find it more acceptable than the real thing. It is important to tell our secrets too because it makes it easier . . . for other people to tell us a secret or two of their own . . . ”
― Frederick Buechner, Telling Secrets
May God bless you and keep you.
Sue
General Discussion » Must watch video on FB » July 2, 2016 9:28 am |
I love this! So many truths. Language warning. I really liked getting the perspective that good, moral gay people get sucked into the closet by GIDs, just like we do.
General Discussion » Rob! I've got a date » July 1, 2016 7:59 pm |
It went really well. :-) I so wish there was a way you could get a date out of her. Would going back to your lawyer help? Or is that too much to even think about? I know people will say change the locks, but I also know you have kids and they can't see you being inhumane toward their mother, even if she's completely overstepping her bounds. But I worry about the psychological abuse. It's not good for you and the kids probably are smart enough to sense the tension.
Support » Like a zombie » June 29, 2016 6:37 pm |
Jason,
Kel's advice is, as usual, spot on. Please know you are in a state of shock right now. Don't be scared/surprised if you have trouble concentrating, things don't seem real, you have physical symptoms like lack of appetite or insomnia. This situation is just the same as if a loved one had died unexpectedly. And in fact they have -- the person you loved is gone. It takes a long time to begin to wrap your mind around that. Give yourself that time. Do reach out for support. My husband gave me much the same talk you received 18 years into our marriage. I had no clue. It was like being hit by a freight train. And once he made the plunge, the coldness and distance you've described began almost immediately. That was the hardest part as he'd been my best friend for 20 years. As Kel said, they've had a long long time to think about this. And you've not. I'd add that they often have to distance themselves dramatically from you in order to do what they've decided they must.
When this first happened to me I was mortified to tell anyone. I had this idea that my family and friends would somehow blame me for this or think I'd participated knowingly in a sham. I couldn't have been further from wrong. I encourage you to reach out.
I went through about 12 weeks of shock. Then the grief process set in -- anger, depression, bargaining, all in no particular order. You really may want to consider an empathetic individual therapist. Just make sure they're there for you and not overly empathetic with your spouse.
Finally -- and this was the hard part for me, although others here moved more quickly, get a lawyer. My denial kept me from getting one, along with sheer fear. But you must have good representation. It doesn't have to be today or next week, but soon.
Lean in. Lean here, call the SSN hotline or email them. Lean on empathetic family and friends. You'll need the support and there is no shame in what's happened. You didn't do this. You gave your heart. You will make it t
Is He/She Gay » Periscope » June 29, 2016 1:13 am |
Totally agree, Kel. Got after my ex for porn several times, always thinking it was straight porn, bc I never actually laid eyes on it -- I just knew what he was doing by how he was acting. At any rate I think all porn is degrading and I won't accept it in a relationship -- and I don't care if you're looking at men, women, or goats, for goodness sakes!
General Discussion » Today is my birthday, and life is GOOD » June 29, 2016 1:01 am |
Thank you for sharing! Posts like yours are a godsend and give us all hope! Best wishes.