Support » Coping with after-effects » May 6, 2025 3:26 pm |
Hi Str8Mom - first, I am happy to hear you have found someone, that is amazing.
Second, I am a male, coming away from a lesbian ex spouse after 23 years together. I recall the self doubt. You doubt your discernment. Normal. I dated a bit, then told my therapist I was out of the game", only to be dating someone unexpectedly. That was 2.5 years ago. We are engaged now. I had and still, although rare, have those doubting thoughts. In addition to the above advice, I openly share with my current fiancé. She understands and always provides reassurance when I need it. Will she do that forever? Yes, I think she will. Why? Because she cares more about how I feel than the time it takes to reassure me.
you see, I learned through years of neglect, gaslighting and downright mental abuse, my feelings, desires, wants didn't matter. But they do! Someone who loves you for you will do what is needed.
I trust myself, because I was able to look back and see what role I played in my previous relationship. There were red flags from day one. I didn't have enough confidence in myself and ignored by body until my health was beginning to fail, 23 years later. Now, I am at peace, have no need for anti-depressants, and life, although challenging, is amazing. Not simply because I am away from her, but because I like me. That wasnt true before. Once you truly like/love yourself, TRUST comes with it, because you would never tolerate bad behavior against someone you love. That was the changing point for me.
No one wants to be hurt again, but to truly love someone I believe it is essential. There will always be a chance of hurt, but that is life. I'm rooting for you!
Support » Shocked and devastated - is there any way to make this work? » April 4, 2025 9:42 am |
So sorry you are here, but glad you found us! Although it won't seem like it, its a blessing that you discovered this now vs later. Many of us went years before finding out. In my case 23 years together, 19 married and 3 kids. My ex said many of the same things to me early on. My best advice; stop listening to anything SAID, and only pay attention to what is DONE. Words are easy to throw around, what are the actions telling you?
When I first found out, I thought there was a chance. (And as Freedmyself said, some people make it work) but for me, I realized her words never matched her actions. She had been lying to me from day 1. She isnt someone who I have in my life and only speak to her as required for logisitcs for the kids. My life is much better as a result. My health immediately improved as did myself esteem.
I am not projecting my issues onto to you. I am simply saying, your situation is "common" for us on the board. While each situation is different, many things are the same. Words mean nothing, only action. Take care of yourself, this is jarring. Think about what you WANT and NEED, not about him.
Wishing you the best.
General Discussion » General Update » March 14, 2025 8:54 am |
bakerpurple wrote:
I received the divorce decree in the mail last night. The judge signed it on March 5th so I'm officially single! My marriage was a journey from start to finish and my journey with him will continue as our kids grow up. I'm hopeful that my personal journey will include a new [straight] husband who is equally invested in building a good relationship, but for now I'm going to just appreciate what I have and take it day to day.
Congrats! Big milestone! Wishing you nothing but happiness. It does get better. I have been consistent for my kids for 2 years now and 1 of them wants to live with me exclusively because of the stress of living with her mom's negativity has gotten too much. I hope your kids have peace in both homes. Stay true to you, never forget the lessons learned and hold your head high.
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 7, 2025 3:09 pm |
Agree Lily. I know this is mostly from women finding out their husbands are gay. I am a straight guy whose ex wife never actually cared for me and lied for 23 years. Empathy is one of my top traits, but not for her. If I did, I can promise you I'd still be stuck. Once the truth came out, I no longer feel any obligation to be "empathetic towards someone who had me on very strong anti-anxiety meds for 23 years only to come off of them within 2 weeks of going no/low contact with her.
I recognize every situation is different. For me, yeah, I certainly do not need to be told on the straight spouse support page to be more empathetic to my ex who literally tried (and continues to this day) to ruin my life and make it harder.
Support » Intro to therapy? » January 29, 2025 8:38 am |
Borogove - be aware my friend, I was in the same situation. I live in a similar state and same rules. Initially, she told me she only wanted child support. I figured a mediator was much cheaper. Then, she wanted one of the retirement accounts (despite her already having three, albeit much smaller amounts). Long story short, we negotiated and reached agreement 4 times. 4 times I signed, notarized and submitted the papers. 4 times she "changed her mind". So to escape the abuse, I had to file. Any guesses as to what happened then? 11 months later, 50K in legal fees, the day of court, the lawyers speak to the judge and say "this is how they will rule, but you can take it to trial if you want". The deal? 50/50.
Its your choice, but from my experience, the longer you wait, the more its going to cost you. I ended up with the same 50/50 deal I more or less offered because I knew that wouild be the ultimate result anyway. Oh, the best part? mediation is not allowed in court, meaning I could not bring up the fact that she financially abused me because she did not actually want a divorce, she wanted me to continue to be her support person while enabling her to do whatever she wanted to do and thought I would be ok with that. She lost control of her play thing. 2 years later? She still tries to get to me, still tries to get access to me and my life. I dont let her and my life is amazing as a result.
Good luck my friend. Tough situation.
General Discussion » How is everyone doing? » January 21, 2025 7:46 pm |
You aren't alone at all. It does get better. My situation my be a bit different, I was "fortunate" to get this bomb dropped on me at age 42.So starting over (minus half my assets) while hard, seemed doable. I learned and accepted rather quickly that my ex-wife never cared for me and actually hated (still does) me because I am everything she is not. This helped in my healing process tremendously, because she actually lost something/someone, I lost a headache, abusive gaslighting, manipulative albatross around my neck....pretty good trade for me.
Why tell you this? Everyone deals with their situation in their own way. I found peace in living in the present, always. I rarely worry about much of anything and this is after a 23 year relationship (19 years married) to someone who beat me down every chance she could get and I was on anti-anxiety meds for the entirety of our relationship. (and almost immediately off them once I went extremely low contact).
Where ever you get too, how long it takes, the journey is better in the present. Enjoy each moment as if you chose it. Anxiety will fade and a new you will emerge. I am shocked at how pleasant life can be, even with the challenges of a horrible co-parent and the state the takes 40% of my earnings and gives them to her so she can not spend it on the kids. None of that bothers me, it simply, is....
Be well, treat yourself kindly, and know you are now free. It does get better.
General Discussion » When will I feel better ? » December 24, 2024 3:30 pm |
Rob wrote:
Lost,
I'm many years divorced now and its so apparent how abused I was. My current girlfriend calls me out on it all time...asking me "why are you saying sorry?". Because I spent my entire marriage in the doghouse saying sorry for everything..real, imagined. It hit me like a ton of bricks when we were separating..how I was blamed for world hunger, climate change...anything to make me bad.
The truth is we/you are enough ..you are more than enough.
When will it feel better? When you're far away physically and time wise from the often subtle, malevolent abuse. I thank God everyday for getting me away. I live an authentic and abuse free life now.
Wishing you and everyone a holiday full of peace and solace.
All too real and relatable. My ex still tries to do this with the kids now, she knows I just ignore her. I spent 23 years (19 married) thinking I was an average at best husband, because everything was always my fault. Always.....
Support » Struggling to Decide and How to Feel » December 17, 2024 10:17 am |
Hey blankcanvas - welcome to the forum no one wants to be a part of, but we are all here
I am sorry you are here, but glad you found us. I think it would be helpful to consider several things:
1. her sexuality is not the point, the only point that really matters is she is choosing someone else and not you. My ex wife said the same initial "I want to want us, but I just want her" she said. Just because someone is bi, doesnt mean its not cheating. Cheating is cheating. period.
2. She is putting all of this on you. "If you want to stay together, I will make it work" she said. That is a massive grand canyon sized red flag that not only is she not done exploring, she wants you to function as a parental figure and make the decision for her. Thats not a healthy relationship....
3. Actions matter, words do not. Just because she says she wants to be with you, what are her actions showing you? If it is you that consistetly has to say the right things, do the right things etc, where is her accountability?
I can not decide for you. No one care. Take the time you need and focus on YOU. Clearly, that is what your wife is doing, focusing on herself and not you at all. Words DO NOT matter. Only actions.
Be well my friend. Its a long journey, but life gets really good on the other side. I am in a healthly relationship now and looking back at my marriage, it was not only toxic, but it was manipulative in every way.
Support » Nothings wrong » December 13, 2024 10:13 am |
Anon 765 wrote:
My ex would absolutely have said we were happily married. I don't know if things have changed now that we have been separated, living apart and are now divorced. I haven't seen him in a while.
Same here. My ex wife is all over the place (or was when I was in somewhat regular contact, I am not anymore). She went from the marriage was perfect and you were perfect, to "you loved me, but were always demeaning to me" to "I will always love you and always have, I just didnt know". Pick a flavor, she has no clue because she doesnt know who she is, what she wants, and so as a result, everything in life is "unfair" and not her fault.
Just be glad you are out! Live presently and focus on you! Wishing you the best!
Support » Feel sad and overwhelmed 28yrs of marriage ending » December 4, 2024 8:10 pm |
Eagle D - lots of a great advice. Would absolutely get a lawyer. Not all situations are the same, but mine is very similar to Marie's. My ex wife said she was "so sorry" and that none of this was my fault and she would not be greedy/selfish. My first clue was her unwillingness to even turn in the paperwork to the lawyers. So I did. Then she dragged her feet on negotiations. So I pushed it. Then we reached 4 agreements, each time with me signing/notarizing and submitting, each time with backing out and asking for more. So I had to file for Divorce or I truly believe I would still be married to her....
Point being, some times, these people will tell you all you want to hear to protect themselves, make it easier for them, forgetting you are the one bearing the surprise, hurt and baggage. Protect yourself, if they are truly genuine, the costs will be minimal and it will go quickly. If not, you'll be well prepared and not have it drag on longer than necessary. in the end, my ex wife got slightly more than what I was willing to pay her any way, but we both lost over 40K that could have been spent on the kids to legal fees. She gets paid an absurd amount of money from me monthly and is clearly, still miserable.
wishing you the best. The only way to the other side is through it. Be well