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Support » This is so messed up » March 7, 2023 10:56 am

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Blackie,
Thank you so much for your kind words.  I appreciate them.  I am glad you are in a good place - it gives me hope.
 

Support » This is so messed up » March 5, 2023 7:44 pm

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Hi all,
Oh my gosh!  I am overwhelmed by your encouragement, advice, and support.  I need to read through them again.  and again.  and again. 

I relate with all of your stories, pain, and thoughts.  It is so hard to see the other side of this, and my thoughts at night are the hardest to keep from spinning out of control.  How do I make sense of over 20 years together?  You are all right; these conversations with him are not helpful.

The other day I caught my reflection in the mirror, and my first thought was, "hey! I am not ugly."

I am not ugly. 

There is something so wrong in a marriage when one partner is treated in such a way that they believe they are ugly.

I didn't realize that this is what I subconsciously believed about myself.  So much healing needs to be done.

I am afraid of the journey ahead of me, but I feel so much better knowing that I have support and understanding here.  Thank you.
 

Support » This is so messed up » March 3, 2023 9:14 am

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Thank you, Blackie
I know you get it.  It does help to hear from those who are further along in their journey.  I know I will be the bad guy if I go no/low contact.  But, I know I will have to for my own health.  Thank you for the encouragement today. 
 

Support » This is so messed up » March 3, 2023 12:28 am

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I try to have conversations with my GH.  Why do I do this to myself?  Why do I expect him to take any responsibility? Now I am being accused of failing him because I didn't ask him about his orientation in our marriage.

So let me get this straight.....our marriage is ending because of me?  Because I didn't guess he wasn't straight? How does that even make sense?  I am not the one wanting to leave.  I am not the one who quit giving affection, quit saying "I love you", or withheld sex. 

He also has stayed married because he didn't want to hurt me.  So, having kids and making our lives extremely complicated  (AND NOT TELLING ME THE TRUTH) was all so I wouldn't get hurt.  In other words, since I would be upset if he left, it was my fault he stayed.  Or, so the crazy logic goes.

In more crazy logic, his orientation gives him the right to leave our marriage, but my hurt and devastation would not afford me the right to leave the friendship if we divorce.  ie: His pain matters more and gives him the permission to blow everything to bits, but my pain is selfish and self-serving. WTH?  How can he even think these things?  Any time I try to communicate my pain, I get hit with these doozies.

I am willing to admit my faults and errors - I am certainly not perfect.  But, damn it!  I am a good partner.  I loved and gave and was real. I am willing to change and grow.  But I will not accept the blame for the end of a marriage when I wasn't told the truth from the beginning. Nor will I play happy family so that he doesn't have to face himself and what he was willing to do to our family.

I think I need off this crazy train.  But, the pain is so deep and intense.  I want to throw up most of the time. I feel paralyzed when I think about our kids. I HATE, HATE, HATE causing them pain.  They didn't ask for this.  They sure as hell won't be expecting this.

I am trying to get unstuck.  I hate this.
 

Support » When do things get better? » March 2, 2023 11:18 pm

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Elle and Mpls,
I am thinking about both of you.  I know this is all so hard and deeply unfair.  It seems you have the support of your kids, and I am glad for you.
 

General Discussion » 2022 was a fucked-up year » February 7, 2023 12:19 pm

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You are strong and amazing.  I am thinking about you today.

Support » Looking for help and support - new to forum » February 4, 2023 10:58 am

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Irish Girl, I am so sorry you are going through this.  There is so much to process, and it can be incredibly confusing and painful.  I encourage you to take your time.  From what I have read, having an open relationship is a lot of work.  Communication, honesty, and respect are all needed for it to be a success.  It sounds like your gut is warning you against entering into one at this time.  Listen to that. 

This is just my opinion, but what if you looked at this differently?  He is framing this as an identity issue, which taps into your compassion and love.  What if you reframe this as a respect issue? Do you feel loved and respected?  Is his treatment of you something you would encourage your children to accept from a partner?  Your needs and wants are important.  You are allowed to have deal breakers.  You asked him to leave because of the cheating and lies - not because of his orientation.

Do you have a trusted friend, relative, or counselor you could talk to?  You need support.  You matter.
And keep reading and posting here, as Elle suggested.  We understand what you are going through.
 

Support » Existential Crisis » February 4, 2023 10:33 am

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Anon, I am so sorry for the hurt and vitriol that has been heaped upon you. Since we are caring and self-reflective people, any accusation to the contrary makes us think there is something wrong with us. Of course we are not perfect, but there is nothing you did to warrant this treatment of you.  I agree with what has been said already.  You are strong and loving, and you are the kind of person I am trying to surround myself with now. 

We get it.  We see you.

Support » Baby steps » January 25, 2023 3:39 pm

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Hey there HereInMpls2717, I understand your pain.  I, too, have cried so many tears.  One thing that has helped me is to find one new routine/place/activity that my GH has never done or gone to with me (which was hard as we live in a small town and have a complicated and intertwined life).  I have a place I go to when I need a break.  This place has no memories of him there with me.  It is now MY place where I can think, write, cry, smile, or just "be."  I wish you success on finding a good therapist.  May you have some peace today.

General Discussion » 2022 was a fucked-up year » January 25, 2023 3:22 pm

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I know this isn't an easy decision, and I am glad you have taken the time you needed to reach it.  I wish for peace for you today.

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