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August 24, 2023 1:41 pm  #1


First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

Hello. You can call me Bubba. I'm glad to find this forum. It's going to take me some time to explore. While I start doing that, I'm going to go ahead and post about myself.

My wife and I have been together for 15 years. Married for 12. We're 43 years old. This is my second marriage. Her first. No kids. 

She tried to come out to me as bi a week before our wedding. For her it was a big deal because she'd never shared that information with anybody before. For me, it was a Tuesday. I already knew. I didn't feel threatened by the fact that she's also attracted to women. Heck, I'm attracted to women. Should she feel threatened by that? My response was something along the lines of, "if you still love me and want to marry me, that's all I care about. I don't care who you're attracted to. You can't control that. As long as we're committed to each other, that's enough for me."

Fast forward to last summer. 

For a period of time she was withdrawn. We had a lot going on in our lives at the time and thought it was stress. We were considering moving to another city and buying a new house. Then one day she dropped a bombshell. She accused me of cheating. To say I was shocked is too light a word. My initial reaction was that it was some kind of joke. But very quickly I could see she wasn't joking. Then I thought "She must mean that I've figuratively cheated on her in some way I don't understand." You see, we hadn't really changed up our routine much from the pandemic. We weren't going out much. She's a strong introvert and this suited her. We both work from home. Her full time, and me 4 days from home and 1 day in the office. She's invited and welcome to every event I go to with friends. And she attended those often. So I couldn't even understand the logistics behind the accusation. "How would I do that? When would I have time? Here's my location history from my phone. Feel free to look that over and tell me when this cheating could have happened." We started couples therapy. 

In the therapy it came out to the therapist that she's attracted to women. And that she's basically not attracted to men at all. I'm not sure I was surprised by that. I was surprised to hear she didn't have attraction to me either. I always knew she was more toward the homosexual end of the scale. But I thought there was at least some attraction to me. I had no reason to doubt that was the case. The sex was great. And often. For our entire relationship, it never really dropped off at any time. We were going 2-3 times per week every week. Even during couples therapy before and after this revelation, the sex continued. And I wasn't the sole initiator.

At any rate, when the therapist made clear that she had a decision to make about what she wanted in her life, she stopped wanting to go to therapy. She didn't know. She wasn't ready to make that decision. She didn't want to feel pressured by appointments every two weeks with a therapist. I was concerned about the stability of our marriage, but not overly so. I started believing she was going through some kind of ebb and flow of her desires and we were at a crest right now. We argued more than usual. She started disagreeing about inconsequential things and I got used to just letting subjects drop because none of it was worth fighting over. We were still having sex. I felt the same emotional connection with her as I always have. 

During all this time, I didn't have anybody I could turn to, because to get support from my friends they'd have to know what I was going through. And she was still in the closet. I didn't feel like it was right for me to out her. 

In June, she reached a point where she was very unhappy. Clearly and obviously struggling. That's when the sex stopped. Still she didn't want to go back to therapy. Eventually, at the beginning of July, she told me she'd decided to move out. She needs time to figure out what she wants her life to be. That's when she started coming out to people (as a lesbian), and I was finally able to get some support from my own community. 

I was crushed that she didn't want to try to see if we could reach some kind of arrangement we could both live with. I've put so much into this marriage. Investments of time and mental energy and emotional energy and money. I feel so betrayed. But the feelings are complicated. I obviously love and respect her and want her to be happy. And I accept her for who she is. But I also want to be married. And I'm proud of her for admitting her feelings because she's doing something that's really difficult for her. But it's terrible news for our marriage, and I can't be happy about that. . 

Six weeks passed and we got together to talk about things. We hadn't really talked in that time. She said she wanted space and I wanted to honor that. I wanted to hear about her journey and how she felt about it. I was pleased to hear that she was interested in going back to therapy. So we started that up again. We've been to two sessions. The next session we're going to talk about what our boundaries would be if we wanted to get back together and try things as a MOM. 

Somehow I doubt she's going to even want to give this a serious try. She's in some lesbian coming-out support groups and her new community may not accept her if she decides to try to stay married as a lesbian. I've tried pointing out some communities for people who want to try an MOM, but it remains to be seen if it's something she wants. I guess time will tell at this point. 

And to be honest, I'm not sure if it's something I want to try myself. I'm not interested in casual sex. I'm not interested in an open marriage. But there are other options I might be amenable to. And she says she's not even eager to jump into anything new right now. So I'm not sure what her needs are at the moment.

I know everybody is different and what can work in one marriage may not work in another one, but I'd be happy to hear some perspectives from people who have given that a shot. I feel like our relationship and communication are both on the strong side of the scale. But there's room for improvement. I think that we have as good a shot as anyone does at making a MOM work. But on the other hand, I'm 43, and I'm not getting any younger. If this isn't going to work, I don't want to waste my time. I could be spending my time trying to find a partner who will be there as we grow old together. 

Thanks for hearing me out. Thanks for being here. I don't know what the near or long term future holds for me, but I'm grateful to have a place to go where I can talk to other people who are going through it. 

 

August 24, 2023 3:15 pm  #2


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

Bubba (love the name )

Welcome to our Forum. I am a female straightspouse (newly separated and further along in my journey) but there are men here who will have good advice and suggestions for you. 
This is a helluva storm but we can walk through it with you

Elle


KIA KAHA                       
 

August 24, 2023 5:42 pm  #3


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

So very few couples make a MOM work.  She's got to want a MOM to work, and since she's a lesbian, moved out, unhappy married to you, not attracted to you, seems to have checked out, and is likely going to want to express herself in a lesbian relationship if she hasn't already tried, you don't have anything to work with.

I get it.  You're in shock.  In denial.  I was there.  After 4.5 years since D-Day, I assure you that it's far better to be in a relationship where love, attraction, sexual expression, respect, and trust are shared than to flounder in a one-sided relationship like the one you're in.  This takes time to work through, so be patient with yourself.

Good luck, and hang in there.  Take care of you.

 

August 25, 2023 6:07 pm  #4


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

If she were cheating, or at a minimum thinking of cheating, that would make sense of her accusation that you were cheating - this is quite common, to blame the straight spouse over what they are doing.

Another common theme is that when they start having sex with another woman with whom they are forming a romantic attachment is when they become reluctant to have sex with their straight spouse.  

When they backtrack and want to secure their marriage is when the first romance fails.

 

 

August 26, 2023 7:02 am  #5


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

I have been down the road of exploring possibility of an alternative marriage model too. Now I see that was a was a way of avoiding reality. I'm not against open marriages but I'm not sure if opening a marriage is a good way to fix a problem like this

Last edited by PJ (August 26, 2023 7:03 am)

 

August 26, 2023 9:16 am  #6


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

Bubba,

My GX accused me of cheating...she was adamant I cheated.   I knew no woman and never even looked at another woman.   This accusation began when she started her gay affair..and it continued through the divorce and even to this day she will say I did.   I tried to argue and defend myself acouple of times before I realized in her mind I cheated and no reality or truth would convince her otherwise..years of faithful and fierce loyalty and devotion from me were suddenly,  somehow, not true. She was like a God that could alter reality with screaming and rage...if she screamed at me loud enough that I cheated it must be true..

  I think they do it to make themselves feel better about their cheating and shittiness.  Its not something you can fix or change.
If our years of love and fierce loyalty do not convince them ..im not sure what will.  It should be enough.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

August 26, 2023 10:39 am  #7


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

I'd say MOM can only be called a "marriage" if the husband and the wife are staying faithful to each other. There are a few people who decided to do that, and that seems to have worked. Otherwise, I would not call those relationships a marriage.
My lesbian wife did suggest an open "marriage" after coming out to me, but I don't see any benefits to me in this arrangement.
It starts becoming painful to me seeing her all the time (we still live together for now), since she's looking much better now (lost weight, changed hair, clothes), after deciding to date other women. So all of that was not for me.
 

 

August 30, 2023 7:49 am  #8


Re: First Post - Straight spouse to a Bi/Lesbian/Questioning wife

Hi Bubba,
I'm in a monogamous MOM which is going very well. We're married 38 years, my wife discovered to be lesbian 20 years into our marriage. 
I've written about our story in the MOM section of this forum,for instance: 
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1931

My wife has also written about our MOM, because she is obviously not a straight spouse, you can only ask her questions in her topic:
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=2114

 

 

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