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Support » New Here - Wife of M-to-F Transgender » June 11, 2017 10:37 am

Lyonene
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"found some of the comments in here quite difficult, as there is an underlying belief that being a transgender person means being mentally ill, and also, that there probably is a hidden sexual activity behind it and stuff like that" "I did not find these suggestions helpful at all."

Trunte, I'm sorry this all seems harsh to you. I truly am. People's unvarnished truth can be harsh and hard to digest.

Yes, most people sans far left indoctrination in marxist ideals view it as a mental condition mediated by sexual means. Men cannot be/feel/know what it's like to be female anymore than they can be/feel/know what it's like to be a cat. Men and women share humanity and what is common to humanity. We don't share biology, socialization, life experience, or life roles. We don't share priviledge. We don't share cultural catering. These basic understandings are seated in a reality that surpasses individual feelings.

Depression is a terrible thing, no doubt about it. But how can depression manifest from an impossibility?

These are the things that people understand on very fundamental levels. Things that contradict the twisting and folding of intellect, science, and existence into the delusional origami of blind acceptance or emotionally based self-deceptive rationalizations.

Truth is unyielding. It offers little in the way of emotional comfort at its beginning. It is typically only with time that we appreciate inconvenient truth and the value it holds.

Some of the people here are merely speaking from the other side of the beginning of inconvenient truth. They are speaking toned with time and fuller understanding, that's all.

Best to you.

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » June 11, 2017 9:41 am

Lyonene
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You might think you are here for atonement, but it seems deeper than that. I have read you most thoroughly (here and in another place we both ended up on. Small world). You are not who you were a mere two years ago. You are here seeking truth as much as we are.

Atonement is surface. What I continually see you refining is pain recognition. The nuances of it. It's breadth and depth. The multiple causes and the intricate effects. The various words we say. The phrases we use. The emotion that is raw, deep, and therefore indelible, tattooed on your mind so you'll never question the destruction. The damage. Never be able to fall into such a place again. Implicit knowing through our many words, phrases and emotions your own ex wife and children. It's much more than atonement. It's you owning what you've done. Fully.

You're a good man today, Sean. I know you sometimes doubt that. But only people seeking to be impeccably responsible for their actions, seeking to never forget them, never repeat them, really are good people. Talk is cheap. Apologies easy. You are in the trenches putting dressings on the wounded. That is not expiation. That is ownership.

Cheers, Sean, and thank you.

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » June 10, 2017 6:23 pm

Lyonene
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"When I first started posting here, I maintained that that I loved my (then) wife. That was a lie. I loved my closet, the approval of others, and having a beard more than I ever loved my wife and children. So what's my point? This forum helps straight spouses see reality"

Sounds like you got your own dose of reality. ;)

Truth is healthy for all and will eventually find it's way to the light. What has this truth provided you, Sean?

Cheers

General Discussion » Anyone with a transgender spouse » May 25, 2017 2:02 pm

Lyonene
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It's not uncommon that autogyn men "come out" during a pregnancy. See top commentary in the following:
https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/04/12/baby-dove-real-moms/#comments

Support » Jumping through his hoops » May 24, 2017 10:56 pm

Lyonene
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Eliza,

Boy can I relate to this. The "I'm fixing it all" sentiments, the "we can repair this", the "why don't you believe me", the "it's all due to my life being so fucked up"...all of it.

Eliza, I can't really offer you anything other than I'm so sorry, and I'm right next to you. Same boat, same everything it sounds like. Even down to the "kids" (we have a two year old).

I hear you, and I feel you.

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 22, 2017 12:54 pm

Lyonene
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Yes, exactly. 17 years spent indulging in it makes it rather permanent. My reply to him on all this (since he decided to go down this road with me) was - you do understand if you're going to go down neural pathway road with this that you must accept that the neural pathways you've laid down are lifelong. Short of physical brain damage, neural pathways are forever. The study of neuroplasticity states neural pathways can be lessened with disuse. Not deleted.

He just stared at me.

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 22, 2017 12:00 pm

Lyonene
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Interesting weekend I've had. He spent the weekend professing his adamant belief that this is all porn escalation, and he's going to prove it by changing everything and "rebooting his brain". Then he gives me a book he ordered on neuroplasticity.

He's stating his porn use is over. His public objectifying is over. His fantasy life is over. His lying is over.

He's now going to "undo" all the conditioning he's done to himself, and get back to the "real" him.

Is He/She Gay » confused.com » May 20, 2017 3:01 pm

Lyonene
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Then gay old men wanking? Then looking at craigs list  & gay pubs etc locally then gay camping holidays

He said its so weird in 30 years he's never done this & I found out & he's glad I did as it was just a curiosity that he's not actioned

He's never done this...but knew right what to search, where to go online, and had four different gay centric items starting with porn and ending with actual meet-up places he was booking?

His thin flimsy "I've never done this" stacked against everything is completely absurd.

I'm so sorry he's put you in this painful place.

Support » All my fault... » May 17, 2017 5:41 pm

Lyonene
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Please, please, please, seek a new therapist. Keep in mind that a therapist is merely a person. As a person they are subject to their own thoughts/feelings/foibles when it comes to how they ply their trade. Some are better than others, some fall far short of what would be considered beneficial.

Therapists of caliber tend to not mix their personal beliefs, spiritual beliefs, or ideas of success outcomes, but will instead strive for what is healthy for their clients.

General Discussion » My panties? » May 15, 2017 10:08 am

Lyonene
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I've never had a normal straight guy in my life comment about wearing women's undies. I would think it extremely odd.

Though the prospect of it being my undies gives it a twist of ridiculous visual humor. I'm 5'3", he's over 6' and approximately 300 pounds. Him putting on my undies would be like a set of grapefruits with a string between them.

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