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Support » Staying sane with these emotions without raising suspicion! » August 17, 2016 12:25 pm

I also agree that any 12 step program will help build self confidence and awareness. Build your team around you, get a good counselor, acupuncturist, nutritionist, lawyer, accountant or whoever will help you stay on the positive path to recovery. 

Support » Staying sane with these emotions without raising suspicion! » August 17, 2016 12:22 pm

Responding to Dixie: 'Before I learned this past April that my husband was bi and having a gay sexual affair for the last 30 years, I had learned in January 2014 that my husband had been having at least an emotional if not physical affair with a female coworker. ' 
I cannot believe how similar our stories are!! Only the affair with a female was also true. After our marriage ended (immediately when I knew the truth I asked him to move out), he continued in new relationship with a younger woman and still had his gay lover on the side for at least a year. He then broke it off with both of them and continued with his previous long term female affair. Sound strange!!! It is. The sadder part is that there are people who think he is a 'nice guy' even when they know the entire story. 

Support » I just want to scream » August 17, 2016 10:45 am

Betrayal...it's difficult to deal with and get on with life. My GIDXH still hasn't told his immediate family about the reason we split 3 yrs ago. I keep waiting for him to disclose and be real, but he is now back further in the closet than when he told me about his 17-25 yr relationship with a gay friend of ours. My entire 29 yr marriage was a sham, scam, farce. All the memories gone. My adult children know the truth and even though they are 'open' minded, they do not want to disclose the reason for our divorce to their friends. It is still a stigma. I have said that Pride parades make the public feel that our society is changing and more accepting, but in reality...we have a long way to go. Although this is my story now, a Str8 spouse of a bi\gay man, I so want to get beyond that label and get on with living. At 60 time is ticking away! I believe that I have to write my own story and not let the GIDXH be in control of my life now. 

General Discussion » My story...one step forward and another back.... » August 11, 2016 12:00 pm

I am so amazed how similar all of our stories are! Especially the long term marriages. But another story that stands out is the 'homophobic attitude' of the gay (GIDXH). When my GIDXH finally told me about his gay lover of 20 years, I asked him if he was going to move in with him and he said 'If he thinks I'm going to cozy up on the couch with him now, he's crazy.' So he not only was leaving our 29 yr marriage but also denying his gay partner a real relationship. He was cruel to both of us.MEAN MEAN MEAN....that's all I can say about that. BTW today would have been my 32nd wedding anniversary!! I'm so glad to be free. I think I'll go out and celebrate. 

General Discussion » Stuck » August 11, 2016 11:14 am

Hi Ambre, I was married for 29 years to a gay/bi man.(I didn't know) I have been divorced almost 3 years now. He didn't tell me the truth about his life until I forced him into counseling. For many years, while he was in his long term affair with a gay friend of ours, he would belittle me and try to constantly turn the arguments into it all being my fault. It was his way of deflecting the blame and avoiding telling me the truth. Most of the fights were about money and his lack of business knowledge. Also around anything to do with supporting the 3 children. He resented having to pay for college etc. He also kept me around because I had a stable good paying job and could get financing for his small business. whenever we would fight, he would always draw me back in with 'I still love you.' It appears that's all I needed to hear. We almost broke up (probably every 5 years or so) and he would come crying back begging me to try again. I stayed because I wanted to keep my family together. At the time, I still had a child in high school and two in university. My point is, if I had known the truth I never would have stayed and put myself through the agony of going further into debt supporting a person who was using me as his cover and bank at the same time. I got a good accountant who helped me sort through a losing business (he told me to run and get my name off everything), I found an investment adviser who helped me with a retirement plan, I hired a great lawyer who listened to me and understood what I needed to do quickly. (I had a separation agreement in 3 mths). I found a fantastic counselor who also happened to be gay. He was able to offer me insight into the gay lifestyle and relationship patterns. He had counseled many men coming out of the closet and many Str8 (mostly women) who were faced with the exact situation as mine. These professionals can help you with a plan to go out on your own. It may take some time to find these people but it is worth it. Good luck on

Support » Husband recently came out as Bi.... » August 5, 2016 1:55 pm

In response to Kel Now, let me speak for a moment about him coming out as bi.  WHAT, exactly, is the point of that?  I mean, think about it.  He's a married man, and he's intending to stay that way.  What good does it do to tell others that you are also sexually excited by men?  What do they need to know that for?  And how is it helping anything?  If someone is gay, they need to come out in order to be openly gay and be in the public eye without feeling as though they're living a lie.  But if you're a married man that is also excited by men, it doesn't need to be told to others unless you planning on making some sort of transition.  So yes, he's gay.

I've pondered for the past three years why my GIDXH told me he was bi when he had been in a relationship with a gay friend of ours for over 20 years. I was told that on the spectrum he is closer to gay than bi. Whatever that means? Does it make a difference? I'm sure it does to his gay partner? My GIDXH is now dating women (who know nothing about his gay life). What the heck? Does anyone have comments or similar experiences?

Support » feeling overwhelmed and then not ... the roller coaster of TGT » August 2, 2016 9:36 am

Rob; As soon as I knew the truth about my GIDXH (when he finally confessed about his long term affair with a gay man), I started to sleep better. All of the anxiety I felt around his lies and the years I spent trying to find out the truth, was gone. I felt relief and freedom. I had been unloved for so many years. There of course was new anxiety as I dealt with the divorce, job change etc. But at least I had some control (if we ever do) about my feelings and my decisions. They were mine to own now. I was no longer dealing with a 'raging gay' (your term). I was blamed for everything, made to feel inadequate, disregarded, cheated on, had no physical touching, no empathy etc etc. for so many years. I'm now free. I could not be more grateful for that gift. He finally let me go!!
Some of the things I do in my aloneness that have helped: yoga daily, swimming, long walks, reading (even if I had to force myself), short adventures around the city, (even if it's to buy gluten free bread), planned trips with good friends, skype with my children, writing (I have written many short stories about my experience). It does help to keep a diary or write it down in letter form. Oh and netflix. If it wasn't for netflix I would not have made it the last two years. Tip: avoid couples parties. I am the plague. The wives are afraid I'll steal their husbands and the husbands are afraid they will catch 'gayness'. No one knows what to say to you and most avoid eye contact and conversation. Also, when I am at a low point in loneliness, something usually happens the next morning to shake me out of it. One day at a time. One step at a time. Hold on and enjoy the roller-coaster because the feelings are real and intense and will get you through the highs and lows. 

General Discussion » Our Children » August 2, 2016 9:17 am

Honest feelings are rare. I wish you all the best on working through the pain. 

General Discussion » response to HuffPost article » August 1, 2016 7:30 pm

I just read both articles. Kristin's truth is exactly my experience. My adult children also feel that their whole life was a sham. They all are confused and have left relationships because they doubt their ability to ever be a parent or in a committed relationship. They all say they will never get married. They are angry and getting no truth from their GIDdad. The damage that homophobia has done to families is extreme and the Straight spouse voice is rarely heard. 
I just read the book 'My husband is Gay' by Carol Grever. Some of the stats are outdated but her story is worth reading. Although we think we have come a long way with Gay Pride parades, people's attitudes haven't changed much over the past 20 years.

General Discussion » Our Children » August 1, 2016 7:08 pm

I have to respond to the tears from the GXH. My daughter told me that when she sees her dad (GID), he always cries. I said 'what the h...does he have to cry about?' I think it's just him trying to get self-pity. The crying is an act. My GIDXH only cries because his life has been inconvenienced. He also puts on a good show around others pretending to be all sad and missing me. It's just AN ACT. It's a way to get people to feel sorry for him because his struggle has been 'sooooo hard.' When the GIDXH has been lying for 30 years, what would make them tell the truth now? 

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