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Strategies for MOM's » Has any couples seen Dr Joe Kort? » March 29, 2025 5:33 am

Alex1984
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My husband and I went through the same troubles in New Zealand. We changed a couple of therapists and realised nobody is equipped for this. We had to work together (and sometimes against) the current one to make it work. He now specialises in MOMs here in NZ. Unfortunately, he is taking 6 months off. I can ask him for a recommendation though. In the meantime, join FB group on mixed orientation relationship, they run support groups every couple of weeks. Also, feel free to DM me - my husband and I are always happy to jump on a call and support you and share our experiences.

Good luck đź’–

Strategies for MOM's » How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation? » March 27, 2025 8:23 pm

Alex1984
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MOM can work! Ours does - you can read my story in Embracing my Husband's SSA thread.

You do need two very committed spouses. You will put in a lot of work. It will be very painful for a while. In my case - I think it was worth it, but it is a very personal choice.

Good analogy with liking blondes - 98% of straight men watch porn with blonds. Many wives are OK with that. Many men are OK with their wives having sex with women (particularly if they can take part), some women are OK with their husbands having sex with men (most aren't). No need to sum it to infinity. Watching porn, reading novels, having more "gay" sex with their opposite sex partber might be all a person needs. Or not.

The gay/bi adolescence stage is real, but some people go through it a lot quicker and calmer than others. Others use it as an excuse to be a d*ckhead for years to come.

Do get a post-nup discuss all the "what-ifs". I did and it made our journey a lot smoother as I wasn't panicking.

Good luck. You got this, one way or another!

Support » Recent breakup, need advice » March 25, 2025 5:22 am

Alex1984
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Breathe. Take one step at a time. This too shall pass. We grow through pain as long as we keep moving forward and don't get stuck in it. In saying so, go easy on yourself. Give yourself time. Move as slowly as you need. You will be grieving and that is ok. It is not a regular divorce, particularly where there really was love.

Sending you my love đź’“

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » March 10, 2025 8:58 pm

Alex1984
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lily wrote:

These are the people who go on and find another woman when the one they have gets away.

Lily, I came across this podcast a few months ago and thought about your story the way you always tell it like you ex "loved the closet more than anything". I forgot to post it at a time, but here it is now - this might resonate: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wu3-oTEHqg


 

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » March 10, 2025 6:42 pm

Alex1984
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Sean01 wrote:

Thanks for commenting Alex. Hope you and your husband are both well friend. Here is what I wrote: "By most objective standards, men who have sex with men are no longer heterosexual." My post was about men who have sex with men and still claim to be heterosexual. My paralell was a person who regularly eats steak while claiming to be vegetarian. Your husband, a prince by my standards, has I believe identified as bisexual correct? My issue would be if he were having sex with men while still claiming to be 100% heterosexual. That's the issue I was attempting to highlight...and perhaps failing. (I don't really care about the porn which is why I only mentioned it in passing.) Thoughts?  

We are well, my friend, thank you for asking - off to the US to take our youngest to Disneyland, somewhat concerned about everything that is happening there, to be honest. What I was trying to argue, (and perhaps also failing) is that by extension of your logic, if a gay guy has sex with women, he cannot claim to be 100% gay. Many do (in a willing, not a forced, closeted kind of way) and still maintain their gay identities. Personally, it doesn't trigger me whichever way people identify - I look at how they behave and how connected they are with their feelings and attractions. That's what's appealing on every level.

Support » Desperate Mom/Possible Trans Spouse » March 10, 2025 4:02 pm

Alex1984
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Momof3, sorry for an untimely and possibly useless advice. I really don't know anything about the trans dynamic (my husband is bi), but have you tried complimenting him on his masculinity? Like all the time, 24/7? I only have limited experience, but it worked on every guy I've been with. As in how much you like his body hair, his masculine jaw, his biceps, his d*ck? I watched a documentary and a TEDx talk on trans women, and I suspect they would not welcome complements on their masculinity, but I don't know.. worth a try?

Good luck! I really don't know how to help you, but other trans widows will. I was a single mum for 5 years (only with one child though) and I really enjoyed that time (certainly in hindsight). Maybe you can start looking for a part-time job? 

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » March 10, 2025 1:22 am

Alex1984
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Heya friend,

I'm sure married men often hide their sexuality for a variety of reasons, and it really sucks for their wives and others around them.

However, (as you would expect) I disagree with the "if you had sex with a man you're gay" approach. Let's reframe this a bit. Many gay men regularly watch straight porn - you don't rush off confiscating their gay passports or accusing them of being straight, do you?

Last year, as my husband and I explored open relationships, we came across all sorts of people identifying as gay, bi, straight, etc. with behaviors that didn't match our expectations. Here are a few conversation snippets and dating profile lines I collected:


  • "Mostly into guys, but have a kinda heavy femdom kink", - single gay male, 20s, (from Feeld profile)
  • "I'm gay, but am interested to explore things with MF couples", - partnered gay male, 30s, (from Feeld profile)
  • "No offense, but between you and your husband, we would rather play with you", - MM couple in their 30s (from conversation on Feeld). Probably my favorite, sadly, never got to meet them in person.
  • "I'm mostly into guys, but sometimes I just want to eat a chick up, you know", - single "I don't like labels, but only date guys" male, 20s (from a conversation between my husband and a guy he met on Tinder)

By the way, Feeld is the most entertaining dating app I have ever encountered, you and your husband should check it out (making a fair assumption here based on the fact that 50% of gay couples are open, I hope you're not offended) ;-)

At the end of the day, we decided to take people's stated identity at face value and make our own judgments on their behaviours (and usually keep those judgements to ourselves).

Some men don't identify as gay because they don't want to accept the gay identity, some don't like labels, some genuinely are more into women and f*ck guys simply because guys are, generally, far more available for fleeting sexual encounters.

The question is,

Strategies for MOM's » Embracing my husband's same sex attraction » March 3, 2025 9:20 pm

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Quick update and some peculiar behaviors from my husband's family.

We’re doing well. The older kids have left for university, so it’s just the three of us and the cats most of the time.

After my husband’s father passed away in early January, he had a long, open conversation with his mother and decided to come out to her. It went well initially—she appeared to be accepting and supportive.

A few days later, I received a phone call from his mom asking how I was doing and what this all meant for me. I was incredibly grateful to get this call, knowing how few straight spouses ever receive one. I explained that while it was initially difficult for me to deal with the past deception, we are over the worst of it, committed to each other, staying monogamous, etc., etc. I also had a similar conversation with his sister (at her request). They were clearly processing everything, and I was empathetic, patiently answering their questions about the state of our marriage.

Since then, things have started to go downhill. They’re showing a mix of quite toxic emotions, and those emotions are now being directed at my husband. They seem frustrated that he came out, disappointed that he didn’t come out to them first (“We would have preferred to keep it in the family”…), afraid for his future, as well as somehow for their own future. They seem to have decided that our marriage is unlikely to continue (despite both of us asserting the contrary), They blame him for changing too much (believe me, he hasn’t), and they say that they can’t trust him anymore.

The most bewildering part is that they seem to try to find someone to blame for his bisexuality. So far, they’ve blamed his therapist and (it sounded like...) me!I have not expected anything like that and in a way I feel guilty for encouraging him to come out to them. Surprisingly, even my recently-religious, deeply bigoted mother had a more accepting reaction than them. 

So yeah, things are quite crazy at the

Strategies for MOM's » Navigating the new normal (update) » March 3, 2025 9:07 pm

Alex1984
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It's amazing to hear you are staying on track, Lost. Make sure you take care of yourself, take deep breaths and keep building your support networks outside of your relationship, as well as maintaining the connection with your wife.

Support » Spouse wants me to be attracted to his sexuality, I'm just not. » February 23, 2025 10:06 pm

Alex1984
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findingmyvoice wrote:

... His argument is that if I would just try harder, if I would just "feed that flame", I could find it sexually attractive. I feel like I've been doing that for years, sometimes to the point of doing things I'm not comfortable with, and it has never ignited that sexual desire for femininity in me.

This is what they used to tell gay people at conversion therapy. Just "feed the flame" of whatever little opposite sex attraction you have. Did it work for anyone? Maybe for few, temporarily. In most cases it didn't and it ruined many lives - of gay people and those around them. 

Couple's counselling can work, but only if you have an unbiased, supportive therapist. The main thing to understand as others have already said - you need your voice! You need to state firmly what you are and aren't into. No excuses. He/they will either have to compromise and restructure your relationship, so that it is comfortable and enjoyable for you or you will have to part ways, so you can be happy on your own.

My husband is bisexual and we are in a relatively thriving MOM. I am your person if you want to talk compromise, but I would never tolerate him saying "oh, just do this for me, it's not that hard". You tell me what you like, I will note it and think about it. It is, however, for me to decide what I will or will not do for you (with you, to you, etc.). If it feels like it might be fun FOR ME, I might try it. If not - thank you for sharing, I appreciate your honesty, this doesn't do much for me, let's think about another outlet for your desires.

Good luck!

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