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Strategies for MOM's » Embracing my husband's same sex attraction » January 6, 2025 5:00 pm

Alex1984
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Oh, that makes me angry! Knowing absolutely nothing about me, you, Mam/Sir, consider yourself in a position to call me "desperate". And I bet you consider yourself a good Christian, based on your signature. Are you disgusted? By what? By queer people? Or by the fact that a woman chooses to love and live with whom she prefers? Great! Be disgusted then. This is not a conversation I am even going to entertain. Please read the rules of this post board, however.

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I cordially ask others to abide by the rules of this board: refrain from posting if you are not currently in a committed relationship with an SSA partner and only provide advice if it is constructive toward the goal of a successful MOM. Remember to read other boards on this forum for a balanced view.


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Strategies for MOM's » Embracing my husband's same sex attraction » January 5, 2025 3:46 am

Alex1984
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Post-holiday update.

We aren't big on Xmas celebrations, but we have been hosting a Xmas breakfast for years. We are vegans and guests are often skeptical about our dinner food, but everyone looooves our breakfasts and desserts! Easy - less stress for me. We have all the kids, my husband's ex-wife, my ex-partner and his partner over, sometimes a few friends or whatever relatives are visiting that year. It feels like an extended family unit coming together. Gifts are not expected, but sometimes exchanged. 

Two days after Xmas we had our own special anniversary - the D-day (aka one year post-disclosure). It's crazy to think how much we have been through in the last 12 months - both individually and together. I gave him a protein shaker that says, "You sure shook things up". I thought it was important to express my appreciation for changing the course of our lives (or maybe it was just a turbulent detour). The last 12 months felt very painful at times, but now I can't wait to see where the rest of the journey will take us.

The rest of the holidays were filled with beach walks, wine, a few friends, jigsaw puzzles, and lots of hefty DIY projects. We neglected our house during last year's break (as we were too preoccupied with this whole 'my husband likes boys' story) and we gave it a lot of attention this year. Boy, I love clearing sh*t out!
I look forward to 2025 with excitement. Please don't hate me for this - I know that many struggle during this time, last year was really dark for me, too.

My goals are not to lose sight of my partnership (as I have done before), give more attention to our youngest (the last one left at home), and start planning my exit from work. I run a company, so "exiting" will be a slow and painful process, but I feel like I can survive any slow and painful process now - just need to keep my eyes on the prize!

I also want to go for a year without alcohol. I don't drink much but last year a glass of wine in the evenings started to beco

Strategies for MOM's » Help! In Honeymoon Phase!?! » January 4, 2025 1:57 pm

Alex1984
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Hi Pearl,

Have you asked him what the reasons are for his weight changes? Is it related to health, stress or is he choosing to look skinny? Is it still healthy skinny? Maybe loosing weight is his attempt to be more healthy and show his body more love and appreciation? Or, on the contrary, is it coming from a self-hatered space?

Considering what he is going through, it could very well be his attempt to make himself more attractive to guys (or generally other people). If he is talking about a pornhub channel, maybe that is his way to "prepare" for it?

I would first ask questions to understand where his weight loss is coming from. If the looks (or the feel of the weight of your partner's body) are critically important to you, there is no way around, but to tell him about it.

However, evaluate carefully, are they really that important or is it a signal that some of your other, deeper needs are not beeing satisfied? For example, do YOU want to feel small/light/sexy and is it easier to feel that way for YOU with a bigger/heavier guy? Do you want to feel dominated, held down, etc. and is it too hard to feel that way with someone you can easily overpower? If you have those deeper wants/needs, I would start voicing them first before "zeroing in" on his weight. Don't worry about him not being able to meet those wants/needs - you are both on the journey of discovery. He is discovering himself and you should be allowed to do the same. And you both need to feel safe to share! His disclosure can become your biggest opportunity to bring your relationship to the next level, but you both need to be prepared to work on it. You need to build strong and open communication, otherwise you are unlikely to make it through. You can bring all of this up with your therapist. They should help you navigate these conversations.

If you do decide to address the looks, I would do it through saying what you like (in him and others) rather than through what you dislike. For example, "you look

Strategies for MOM's » Help! In Honeymoon Phase!?! » January 3, 2025 4:04 pm

Alex1984
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Hi Pearl,

I'm sorry to find you here. I am now 1 year post-disclosure with my bi husband. Trust me, things do get better and can get awesome.

First thing first, (in your opinion) did you have a good marriage pre-disclosure? Did you feel like your husband is attracted to you? If the answers are "yes", then read on.

Please read my thread, I have been through the journey you are going through now:
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic_mobile.php?id=3596

You may need a different forum. There are very few positive mixed-orientation marriages examples here. Try these Facebook groups:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/mixedorientationrelationships/

https://m.facebook.com/groups/morandmorecommunity/

Additionally, listen to this most recent podcast from OurPath, it talks about the experience of a bisexual spouse coming out, the rollercoaster, not feeling enough and reconciling all these feelings:
https://youtu.be/SRUYC3sJFqY?si=naQVGFB9JoKznY22

Don't hesitate to reach out directly if you have any questions! Both my husband and I are very happy to offer support to people in similar situations.

Last piece of advice, don't judge your future life by what is happening in your bedroom, your emotional state or his attractions right now. All of this will fluctuate as he is discovering himself! My husband also got into toys at first, now they are gathering dust somewhere in a drawer, we might use them once every few months. He was also "gay leaning" at some stage and now he really isn't anymore. So, basically, sit tight if you can, and let it all unfold.

General Discussion » When will I feel better ? » December 23, 2024 2:57 am

Alex1984
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Dear Lost and Mm3

Could you calmly say something along these lines to your husbands:

"My [friend], coming out is the healthiest thing for you, but if you don't want to come out - it's your life and your decision.  You do you. I am not staying with you in this madness anyway. However, you need to start taking accountability for the divorce. After all, we both know you are the reason it is happening."

If you feel it's appropriate, you can add an ultimatum:

"If you don't take accountability, I will have to start telling people what really happened. It's not outing if I gave you the warning and the opportunity to take control of the narrative. I won't allow you to tell lies about me".

Good luck!

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » December 18, 2024 6:56 pm

Alex1984
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Hi afraidwife,

I am so so sorry to find you here.

Before Sean and the crew jump in to say that your husband is gay and you need to divorce him - because I don't see this conversation going any other way - I strongly urge you to investigate the issue of child sexual abuse further!

This cannot be downplayed. If abuse occurred—especially involving an adult—it can deeply traumatize the victim, affecting their mental health and relationship with sex. While abuse does not determine sexual orientation, it can disrupt how someone relates to their sexuality. For example, a gay person might suppress their orientation due to distrust of men if the perpetrator was male, or a straight person might display "gay" behaviors linked to reenacting the trauma. Abuse doesn’t orient, but it can disorient, with lasting consequences.

I am happily married to a bi guy, who also experienced sexual abuse as pre-teen (involving an adult). If you think it might be helpful for you or your husband to reach out and have a conversation with either me or my husband - please don't hesitate to DM me.

Stay strong! You got this!

Support » Struggling to Decide and How to Feel » December 17, 2024 1:31 pm

Alex1984
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Hi blackcanvas

Sorry to find you here.

You do need to step back a bit, it feels like you're spinning. It's hard, but many people have been through it before and so will you!

This forum is helpful, if your goal is to separate, most people on here will steer you in that direction. If you want more balanced advice try these groups on Facebook:
https://facebook.com/groups/mixedorientationrelationships/
https://facebook.com/groups/morandmorecommunity/

I strongly recommend couple's counseling to move you guys through the crisis. Polyamory can be enjoyable and if you want to explore it, you need to equip yourself with some new knowledge and also un-learn a few things. Read "Ethical Slut" if you're into reading. Don't believe the scaremongering that opening the relationship is the point of no return. You can easily open your relationship and then close it again (my bi husband and I did, so do many other people).

Good luck! You got this!

Strategies for MOM's » It's Mostly Working but... » December 10, 2024 12:19 pm

Alex1984
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Post-nup should be in the "first aid kit!" It should replace point 3C, which tells people to stop having sex with their partners. That one is completely unnecessary, unless you suspect your partner has unprotected sex with other people (many don't).

I'm all for promoting MoR (as you might notice), but I believe it's a great idea to ask for a post-nup post-disclosure! If you feel you are putting your mental health at risk, ask for more as "danger pay"! PARTICULARLY, if your spouse insists on staying closeted - you will have the advantage in negotiations. Personally, however, I would never be able to stay with a closeted person. Him coming out was one of the conditions of us staying together.

Strategies for MOM's » It's Mostly Working but... » December 9, 2024 2:41 pm

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Hi Pete,

Do the group meetings or her coming out to friends bother you? I think it's a good think our partners are coming into their identities. I voraciously encourage these things for my husband.

I know it can feel very scary. What if they become increasingly comfortable and then leave me for a person of the same sex? But that implies that she is staying with you out of fear and confusion, rather than out of love and commitment. I don't think that's the case, but even if it was, wouldn't you rather find out?

My husband has come out to close friends and even some colleagues. He's wearing bisexual bracelet and is open about his bisexuality if people ask. I thought it was very good for him! He also came out to a very close 'friend', who he had a major crush on prior to meeting me. It was the hardest thing for me, because frankly I think the other guy is also ssa and likes my husband. Ooofff... last time I was in the room with them (after the coming out) the chemistry was palpable. But I think, as Shrek says, "better out than in". I would rather these feelings came up to the surface so  he can process them or even act on them if that's what we both agree on, rather than have them brewing in the background.

Group meetings can also be very validating. My husband is bi, and it's probably quite different. He doesn't relate to gay guys that well. He looked for bisexual men groups but couldn't find any, so he had to join a religious group (he is not religious). He says their dynamic fits him well. They all are in monogamous marriages to women and this is how largely he wants to remain, so their conversations are very relatable. Maybe a group for lesbians that are married to men might be helpful for your wife? Community of like minded people is very important.

Strategies for MOM's » Embracing my husband's same sex attraction » November 28, 2024 5:44 pm

Alex1984
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Hi Team,

Here's our monthly update. We are only a couple of weeks away from our disclosure anniversary! We are not an anniversary-celebrating kind of people, but I feel like this is an important milestone. I very much welcome any snarky/funny gift ideas!..

Disclosure was an unusual event and an unusual year then followed. 

Currently, we hardly have any upsetting or emotional moments, the rollercoaster is definitely slowing down. It's summer where we live and life is generally much better in summer. Beach, wine, and catching up with friends. The biggest fight we had last month was about our poor dead cat's ashes. My husband (is a total moron) wants to keep them in the house. Seriously, forget the gay porn, THAT is perverse! Is there a forum where I can go rant about that???

In the last year, we have both worked on strengthening friendships outside of our relationship - both as a couple and individually. I think it has been very good for us. We have always thought of ourselves as happily isolated unit (COVID lockdown was a bliss!), we get a lot of social interactions at work and then spend a lot of energy with kids, so socialising with friends had never been at the top of our priorities. We are intentionally changing it this year. For me it was important to gain more independence from him and strengthen my own networks, for him it was an important step in reconciling his past and present identities. Conclusion - friendships are just like relationships - they need investment and effort but can be quite fun! 

He is still in therapy for his trauma and sexuality. I started psychodynamic therapy to work on my trust, hyper-independence, overfunctioning and to ensure co-dependency tendencies I had in the past relationships don't resurface (yes you can be hyper-independent and codependent at the same time!). I'm sure I'll dig out more issues as I go along. I parted ways with my cognitive behavioural therapist that I have been seeing on-and-off for years - I didn't thin

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