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Strategies for MOM's » Happy MOM for 15 years and going (lesbian & str8 man) » December 1, 2022 10:55 pm

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Thank you. Your generosity is remarkable, and it continues to humble me.

There is a lot to get through in your reply, so I will take some time with it. I think it says more than what I initially read, so I will go through it carefully and respond soon. 

Strategies for MOM's » Happy MOM for 15 years and going (lesbian & str8 man) » December 1, 2022 3:35 pm

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> To my opinion acceptance is key in a MOM. First of all my wife accepts her own sexuality, doesn't see it as something to repress (that's not the same as not acting out). Secondly I accept her like she is, so she doesn't have to fear being checked (rejected) by me. So she is not repressing and I am not repressing. We can both feel relaxed and free about it.
Very possibly this acceptance and relaxed way, takes the sting out. (while when someone says: "don't look behind you!", makes it near impossible not to).

(I'm getting quite ahead of my reading by asking my question now; I'm only on page three of all you have written. (It was back in May of this year that you pointed me towards these posts. It's taken me until now to be ready to read them through. I am so grateful that I waited, as I have learned so much and gone through so much between then and now that I am able to gain so much more as I read these posts.))

That said, it's a real pressing question in my home right now. While I continue to affirm that I am fully accepting of my husband as being gay, my husband himself can not, at this time, see how not being loved by a man is anything but repression. He feels he needs to have it spelled for him: how can he be a homosexual male with a core desire to be loved by a man, and still choose his wife, this need and desire forever unrequited. He can't see how this is not a life that requires repressing his identity.

I can give more context if needed. Please ask.

Meantime, I will go back to where I was in the story.

Strategies for MOM's » My story - searching for path forward » November 29, 2022 8:31 am

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Hi Pinky, 

Reading your story, it sounds fairly similar to ours. I am a straight spouse married to a gay husband. I have been off this forum since May 2022 as it can be a very painful place, even while it is immensely helpful. Real struggles are described here, and there is very little sugar-coating. I hope that you do return to this post and continue your journey with the people here who understand what you're going through. There is no one who understands like a member of the community. And as time continues, you will find that you just want to be understood. By anyone.

My husband and I have been married over 21 years, together for 22 years. He came out to me in January of this year, and it has been a terrible rollercoaster ever since. He has not been unfaithful. We are still together, and as flawed as our attempt is, we are trying to make this work.

I want to assure you that there are other MOM couples who, like you, have remained monogamous. My husband and I hardly know what success looks like yet, but we are 10 months into our journey. There is so much time, growth, understanding, disclosure, acceptance, and peace to come.

It hurts like hell in the meantime. I'm so sorry that you are living this.

Strategies for MOM's » How to stay together without further harm or repression. » May 26, 2022 2:21 pm

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Dutchman, thank you for your kindness in your reply. I have been able to receive small glimmers of hope through all of this uncertainty, and your response to my post is among those glimmers. I especially appreciate your sentiments of thinking independently and being willing to forge the path that is right for only us, together. It will be a real challenge to find a community that will support what *we* want, regardless of how it appears to others. Thank you for voicing this concern -- I intuited its existence, but I'm not experienced enough to say it with confidence.

We have a precious few family members and friends who know and are supporting us on this journey. We have faced this boxing in first hand with a few of our family. Those whose primary support is of my husband can not conceive of a future for him with me. He's gay. He obviously can't stay married to you. (They have not said this overtly, but their expressions of support absolutely convey this message.) Pressures are everywhere. Questions and second-guessers are vocal. I even at times wonder if he will find full acceptance in the LGBTQ2S+ community while he remains with me; he already feels like a freak enough on his own, because of his own self-accusing voice. He doesn't need more boxing in, exclusion,  or judgement -- much the opposite.

I think it's true that so many people who have needed to walk this path have arrived here by means of very serious manipulation, violence, harm, trauma, and heartache. The stories are heart-rending, and I've debated whether I even have a voice here. He has not been unfaithful to me; he has not, up to now, been badly harmed by anyone, (He does have harmful theology to unravel and his spiritual pain is very profound.) But he didn't spend years living a double life, or lying to me. The trauma inflicted on me was his coming out. Nothing more, nothing less.

His own trauma is the result of years of repression which developed into self-hate and layers and layers of

Strategies for MOM's » How to stay together without further harm or repression. » May 19, 2022 10:02 am

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My husband came out to me as gay in January of this year. I am dedicated to staying together, and he is inasmuch as he is able to commit to anything at this time -- he doesn't even fully understand what his identity means for him. My honest, biggest fear at the moment, is that in staying together, exclusively with one another, we will undo any of the good of him coming out. We will inadvertently (possibly necessarily) force him back into the closet, back to the harmful self-image traps, the repression, the shame, and he will eventually burn out and need to leave later on, down the road, when he is worse off than he is today. I love him too much to want this future for either of us. At the same time, I love my family too much to willingly divide it up; there is suffering in all places, but together with acceptance and love, we might have a fighting chance. How do I support him, our family, our marriage, without him needing to repeat the mistakes of the last 20-40 years of his life?? How does he move ahead as a gay man in a MOM?

I know you don't know much of our story, but perhaps there is some help that can still be offered by the participants of this group. Thank you for what you can offer.

Strategies for MOM's » Some straights are perfectly okay with their spouse being bi…. » May 16, 2022 11:04 am

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You have no idea how grateful I am for these comments. I am straight, and my husband revealed to me just four months ago that he is gay. We married in 2001. We are doing everything we can to remain together and to maintain our faithfulness. He has a long, long way to go with self-acceptance. He only recently accepted his own identity, last fall. So we are in early days. The hurt and pain he has suffered by needing to maintain the life of a square peg jammed into a circular hole runs deep and wide, is full of deep seated shame, and is going to take years to heal and overcome. Thank you TangledOil, CMaree23, and HappyMOM - I want to be able to still say in another 20 years that we are happily together and supporting one another and continuing to flourish under the care and love of the other. Knowing there is no shame to want this is heartening.

Support » I need success stories of marriages that last with transgender spouse » May 16, 2022 10:46 am

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Hi @bastion - my heart goes out to you. I am new here, and am also looking for the same thing -- to hear of successful futures.

I think that very few stories like this are told because those couples who are successful are successful in part because they are very privately doing their careful, caring, growing, discovering work together. So take heart - stories do exist, yet you will only learn of a small handful. But your acceptance and love toward your spouse will support your ability to see one another through to the next day, and the next, and the next. Eventually, you may be able to tell your own story.

I hope that my story is one in the making. Time will tell, and it is hard. So hard. To watch them suffer, and to support them no matter what. I'm sorry you're faced with this, but you are not alone.

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