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Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 20, 2021 2:01 pm

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So just had another ding ding, initiated by her on the back of me sleeping in the spare room. Yes I got dragged into another stressful conversation, but managed to resist giving details of exactly what my thoughts were related to last weekend, although I did end up saying so this is all my fault again is it, rather than just talking responsibility, and I pointed out that she never takes responsibility for any of it and only gets angry, this made her almost tearful, but quickly turned back to anger.
So I am feeling stuck again and wondering if I will ever escape! Would it be best to just say I don't love you any more I want a divorce? Or is that not likely to work.... I'm trying to simplify of course but I am genuinely starting to wonder if there will ever be a route out of here....
I did consider trying to find her previous partner and talk to him in order to find out how similar his experience was, has anyone done this?

General Discussion » The link between being a straight spouse and sexual abuse in childhood » October 19, 2021 4:37 pm

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I was sexually abused as a teenager by my best friend, I now find myself married in a 25 year emotionally abusive relationship. It had crossed my mind that there maybe a relationship between these things, coming across this post is an eye opener. Due to the nature of my childhood abuse, it being my best friend, same sex, and same age, I felt so guilty and scared I didn't mention it to anyone for 11 years until I met my still GID wife, whom I told within a year of knowing her, she was suitably sympathetic, and supportive at the time, but if I have ever brought it up since it has always been a case of 'well we all have our baggage to carry dont we', as a result I have probably never really dealt with it properly. I have recently discovered my wife is having an affair and am in the process of trying to find my own path through this, with much help from you beuatiful people btw. I also spent 10 years following my abuse terrified I had aids, I only saw the boy who abused me once since it happened, probably 4 or 5 years after the abuse, when I met him with the idea of talking to him about what had happened to which his response was one of anger and telling me I knew what I was doing, the meeting lasted less than a minunte and I ran from the bar where we had met, I have never seen him since, but I heard rumours that he was ill, this just fuelled my fear that I might be ill, he stood his to be wife up a the alter and later married a man. I discovered several years ago he had died, I believe of a heart attack. When I met me now wife I went for an aids test as I wanted to be sure I was okay before I commited to a long term relationship, the hospital didn't believe me when I turned up and said I had been raped as a child and wanted to get an aids test, they did take blood, and told me I was okay, so I went ahead and tried not to look back. I often wonder if this knowledge imparted to my wife made a difference to her marrying me, it sounds horrible to even think such a thing, b

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 19, 2021 2:40 pm

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You're right of course Elle, and I can feel that strength rising in me albeit a tiny glow, it is accompanied by sadness, fear and an empty lost feeling, but it is there, and I am holding onto it for dear life. I have already noticed that she dosn't want to talk about it either, she has noticed that I am stronger and less attentive towards her, I can feel it, the energy has changed as Ordinary Guy talked about, she is struggling with my new lack of eye contact and apparent focus.
Today has been better, despite last weekend being another visit to her friend for the day while I was working, which of course she lied about. But I am also now starting to think about the past, now I know about the affiar, which continues right under my nose, I can't help but look back and ask myself when did this start, the answer seems to be going further and further back, I am in fact now thinking that this could have begun as much as 10 years ago when her friend split from her first partner, of course I don't know this, and I am hoping I am wrong, but I can't stop myself thinking about it.

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 17, 2021 10:16 pm

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First I would like to thank you all again, I have given the whole kids thing a great deal of thought over the last week and all of your advice is really welcome. I love my step children so much and if I can hold onto anything out of this mess it's them. And in the very long run I now think I can do that.

Following more discussions with my wife, and untruths in return, we'll I say untruths but it's seems my wife has actually taken to telling me the actual truth in reverse, like oh I suppose you think I have been running around all day with her! I have tried, and am getting better at not rising to this. I feel I now know all I need to know to be sure I am not imagining most if not any of this. I have been reading a lot of the posts in general discussions about what I need to focus on, and although it's hard I am starting to understand the importance of not keep looking for definitive proof, and trying to get her to come out. Recent discussions have shown me if this ever does happen it will not be on the back of one of these conversations.

So now I intend to look after me, I have quit smoking and almost drinking, not that these were major problems but I certainly was using them to get me through much more than I should have been. And I am already feeling stronger for it. And I am going to get out there and start doing more stuff....

But of course it's not that simple is it! This weekend was a perfect example, having got home after we both spent the day apart, when I initially came home I instinctively knew what had been going on that day, we had just both arrived home together, and totally out of the blue I had to run to the bathroom to throw up, I had no control over it, I didn't feel sick before or after. This has never happened to me in my life in this way, and took both of us by surprise, of course I knew why it had happened, and I suspect my wife did too, but insisted on grilling me as to why, perhaps I had a bug, was I okay, what was going on etc.... These a

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 10, 2021 2:36 am

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So what do I tell the kids when they ask, which they will and want to know all the details about why, what, how.....

Yesterday was a bad day, I couldn't hide my upset face, I had to keep going to the bathroom to cry and for my stomach to rebel. Eventually had way through the afternoon my wife asked me what's the matter, your stomach is bad, what's going on etc....
I didn't know what to say, she kept asking just tell me what's upsetting you and we can do something about it. I just kept asking her what have you done? I couldn't stop myself....
We has a stressful circular conversation for 10 minutes in which nothing really was said then she got angry.
Last night I slept in the spare room, today I am going to try and meet a friend. Mindfucked!

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 9, 2021 9:16 am

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Thanks everyone, and for the advice. I'm struggling every day with new emotions and worries, even though I had felt this was real for so many years the realisation of an actual affair has had a much bigger impact that I could have known, reading some of the posts here I am begining to understand why that might be. It feel like before I could see the iceburg right ahead of me and now iv'e hit it! I will try to get some counciling but not sure how easy this will be to arrange yet, is it best just to go through my GP or should I look privately to egt someone more specialised. I did have some breifly years ago but the therapist didn't seem to much about this issue.
I also have a burning urge to confront my wife with what I do know, here are a few things I would like tosay, but I don't know if now is the right time, or if this is what I should be saying.....
I think you bi or a lesbian.
I think you are having an affair with your friend.
This is just what I think, I have no definitive proof and don’t intent to present you with any, but I want you to be honest with me about these things I think.

Is this worth the bother or am I just setting myself up for more personal stress?

I am also finding it really difficult not to snap at everything she says, she has always apparently worried about me, but now everytime I walk into the room I look like shit, worried, tired, like I have been crying again etc... I am doing my best to hide my emotions but that is prooving difficult, so she only has to ask are you okay and I tend to reply abrutply with something as close to the truth as I dare to get.

btw Ordinay Guy I have also joined a group more local to me, only yesterday but hopefully that will help. Thanks.

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 7, 2021 6:12 am

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Thank you all for your thoughts and comments, you are right Rob the hugs feel as real as anything I have felt in a very long time. I am sending them back all your ways, the more I read all of your stories the more I realise how many beautiful innocent people have been effected by this issue and despite this being a place of sad stories and hurt people, it is even more of a place of hope and love and support, I am so pleased to have found you all.

As for narcissism I never thought of my wife as a narcissist, in fact if I am completely honest I didn't even know what one was. But I listened to Ryan King's pod cast yesterday and was dumbstruck by a couple of things he said. Firstly that he didn't realise he was being narcissistic until after everything had ended and he spent time reading and hearing the stories of many of those affected by this, it made him realise that much of his behaviour had indeed been narcissistic.
The other point he made which came as a shock was that he thought nothing of his wife’s feelings at any point during or since, he was only really interested in his own self and situation. I find this most upsetting as it would appear on the surface that my wife does love me and care for my feelings, but I am now beginning to realise that this is to some extent connected with what she is thinking and doing, or planning to do than my actual feelings.
Thanks for your list of actions I can do and plan Longway, thinking about practical things that will make the next steps easier is something I have been putting off, and it is good to have some guidance for when I get the courage together. I am lucky in that I have lots of things I like to do and will try to focus on getting out and doing them over the coming months, something I think we have all been struggling with in these strange times.
Elle this is exactly what I do on a continual basis, reading your post reminds me of this cycle, I go through it over and over again, and I still can’t help myself st

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 6, 2021 1:43 pm

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Thank you for your responses, and the hugs, they made me cry again.....
So I will consider your words at length, but an immediate issue I am struggling with is how do I behave now? I am now aware that this is most likely real and is really happening I feel more scared than ever, my spouse will always deflect conversations related to our sex life, but she is also aware that I am sad, depressed, have things on my mind etc... And will drill me to find out what is wrong, in order to help, apparently, but if my response relates in any way to 'us' it will result in aggression and anger, this often causes me to revert to it being my issue, my problem, caused by me or something I have been through. So if I could do with anything now it would be to know how to navigate this..... Do I focus on avoiding showing my sad, depressed feelings, on the real issue and trying to talk about it, avoid any kind of confrontation or what? I would appreciate any thoughts on this.....

Support » How do I escape from this nightmare? And then where do I go? » October 6, 2021 5:13 am

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I did post on here years ago but got scared and asked for my account to be removed. Well nothing has changed in that time and I find myself reaching out to your amazing organisation once again, thank you for being here.
I have been married for 21 years and together for 24, I have thought my wife is bi or gay for probably 10-15 years, and for the rest before that I was simply confused and scared and tried to understand what was wrong, all of which was met with ignorance, denial, and anger on the part of my wife.
Our relationship is perfect except for sex, our sex life has never been good, well I say that but looking back I guess the first year or 2 was, but it quickly reduced to little (like a few times a year), I decided to spice things up and brought some fun clothes and toys, my wife seemed offended that I had done this, and this resulted in our sex life stopping completely. One day I came accross some lesbian magazines and one of the toys I had brought, accompanied by about 2 dozen dead batteries. I confronted my wife about this she assured me the magazines were from her X, and refused to even talk about the toys, in the heat of the argument that ensued she said 'My sex life is nothing to do with you, and I want nothing to do with yours'! As you can imagine I was shocked and didn't know what to do with this news, I decided at this time to leave, I can't tell you how I wish this is what I had done at the time, but I didn't. I was vunerable when I met my wife as a result of previous sexual trauma I had happen to me when I was a teenager, this was the first relationship of any kind I had ever really had, I was 26 and my wife was in her 30's with 2 kids and an X partner, who it turned out left her for another woman and has never had any contact with any of his friends or family ever since, and little to no contact with his children who are now grown up with families. At the time I didn't know what to think, I had no expireence of relationships or x partners and didn'

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