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Strategies for MOM's » This may sound strange, but it makes perfect sense to me. » October 30, 2023 9:57 pm

TangledOil
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Hello again LonelyDude,

I’m so sorry for what you’re feeling. I’ve never felt unwanted, undesirable, or unattractive. That didn’t waiver at any point in time even with him coming out. He never desired to replace me if that makes sense. We continue to have a great relationship and sex life. I’ll admit that my desire dwindled for a bit because the thought of it all was certainly not a turn on. 🤣

I’m happy to talk about it all if you (or others) have questions. 

Edit… In the first few months after disclosure I suggested he move out/we divorce so he could explore. I didn’t suggest it in a mean way, just rather matter of fact. He had no interest in any of that. Then sometime later I suggested I be involved in finding a person for him and proceeded to look for someone although he said he wasn’t interested. Oddly, I really liked that idea. He was rather terrified at the whole prospect and I believe that’s when it became clear that he doesn’t find men attractive and never has. In retrospect it’s comical.


Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » This may sound strange, but it makes perfect sense to me. » October 30, 2023 12:31 pm

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Hi LonelyDude,

Thanks for your reply. It’s a long story, but I’ll make it short. He was victimized by an older male when he was very young (age 7). It was someone he knew and trusted and the person turned out to be a huge creep/criminal. My husband didn’t know that what the guy did to him was wrong/inappropriate until a few years later. We’ve been together and monogamous over 30 years. I’ve known he’s always had issues with men in general… doesn’t trust or like most men. Thinks most men are creepy, and as my therapist would agree and say “most women think most men are creepy too.” Anyway, he has met two men in his life (mid 50) he would have ever considered for anything, but nothing happened. He’s been propositioned a few times at entertainment events and always declined without any regret. Early on after he came out I offered to help him find someone… he was very uncomfortable with the reality of a man… I think his victimization as a young child messed with him for sure and part of his interest was a desire to recreate with a consenting experience. Anyway, not sure if he’d call himself fluid because he can’t ever see himself actually being with a man sexually, and definitely not romantically. We’ll see as time passes, but like I said it changes nothing for us.

PS… it seems he liked the fantasy far better than he imagined the reality would be. Oh, I wanted to add… we’ve had many discussions about how all this would work for a “bi man” who doesn’t like men in general and also doesn’t find them attractive… it’s been a wild 4 years, but we’re all better off for it. 🤷‍♀️🤣

Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » This may sound strange, but it makes perfect sense to me. » October 29, 2023 10:06 pm

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My husband seems to be abandoning the bi label for himself. He came out saying, “I think I’m bisexual” four years ago. He’s never been comfortable or keen on the idea of actually doing anything with a man. He doesn’t find men attractive at all. And, generally speaking, he doesn’t like men. We’ve spoken about all of this in great length over the years. He has a very high level, demanding position and he earns in the top 1% (I’m saying this to give any idea of the responsibility he has) in his field. He handles the stress well I think, but because he’s almost always in charge he likes the idea of being less in charge on some occasions in the bedroom. He’s perfectly happy with that person being me, a cis heterosexual woman.

I’ve heard about this in the past, but never thought too much of it. Anyone, it really doesn’t change anything for us if he keeps the bi label or not.

Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » SSN/Our Path was the first resource I found… » September 23, 2023 11:57 am

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Thank you, Elle, for your reply and I do appreciate the MOM board that you got started here.

Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » SSN/Our Path was the first resource I found… » September 23, 2023 11:54 am

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Anon,

I do recall our communication. Thank you so much for your kind and considerate reply. I do appreciate it. I’m so sorry for what you and others here have gone through and continue to go through. No one deserves to be treated badly. I’m glad you found exactly what you needed when you needed it. Even though I know you’ve suffered, I don’t recall hostility from you toward your spouse or anyone here and I very much appreciate that. It tells me a lot about your character. I understand if there’s “bad” it absolutely should be spoken about and proper support should be given. Anyone’s story should be told with accuracy, good or bad, with no need for sugar coating to please anyone else. I will visit this forum on occasion and focus on the positives in my life and marriage.

Thank you again,

Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » SSN/Our Path was the first resource I found… » September 22, 2023 6:16 pm

TangledOil
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I don’t take issue with others taking a different path at all. Different paths are necessary for different people and circumstances. My issue was being told by multiple people that my husband wasn’t bisexual, but gay in-denial, and that I was clueless. I understand people are hurt and greatly effected by their experiences, but to believe that everyone’s experience is like another’s is silly, to say the least.

I truly don’t fault anyone for taking a different path. I’m talking specifically about those here who think there’s no bisexuality and there’s ONLY gay and straight.

I’m not the only one who’s had this experience. It’s fairly common knowledge within the community.

Tangled

PS… CMaree23, thank you for expressing it so well, as always.

Strategies for MOM's » SSN/Our Path was the first resource I found… » September 22, 2023 1:58 pm

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… and I really wish I hadn’t found it first thing anyway. I’m glad to see there are many more options for support today then there were four years ago.

I’ve been reflecting on this whole journey since my husband came out as bisexual. The negativity and gloom prophesiers took much more of a toll on my mental health than anything my husband said or did. I tried to go back through my posts and find how many times I was told my husband was actually “gay in-denial,” but that turned into an impossible task. I was told my husband was already having sex with men and I was naive, and so on. I’m not sure how perfect strangers with limited information could deduce all of this.

As for anyone wondering why I post here very occasionally still, it’s for the newcomers to the MOM forum who might see a MOM as achievable and desirable for them.

Anyway, with all that said, there are a few people here that I am grateful came into my life. You know who you are. Thank you.

Tangled

Is He/She Gay » Is my husband gay? We have 13 years sexless marriage. » September 15, 2023 10:04 pm

TangledOil
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I agree with Dutchman. Before I even read his response, there’s nothing in your post that would lead me to believe he’s gay. There definitely are intimacy issues that should be resolved as that is what you desire.

Strategies for MOM's » 31 years together and 4 years post disclosure » August 14, 2023 7:22 pm

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We are so proud of us. I know it’s an odd thing to say, but we have seen so many others around us divorce and remarry, divorce again etc… We’re really proud of us as a couple. We surmise we probably have a healthier marriage than more than 80% of those we know. We just celebrated a wedding anniversary so my husband and I were talking about all of this. It’s pretty amazing.

Tangled

Strategies for MOM's » Husband came out as Bi 1 month ago..need advice » August 12, 2023 11:04 pm

TangledOil
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I’m sorry for what you’re going through. That is a lot of change to your relationship in a month. I think it would be better to put on the brakes a bit if possible. That’ll probably be harder to do since you already opened your marriage. It’s often said there should be at least one year of careful consideration and conversations and therapy before making big changes to the structure of your relationship in these situations.

My husband asked for a very likely and infrequent FWB situation. I considered it for months when he came out. I considered ALL possibilities. Ultimately I knew I wouldn’t be okay with opening and later he realized he also wasn’t built for non-monogamy. That was almost 4 years ago.

It is common that sex and intimacy increase after coming out because the bi partner feels freedom/relief if he gets acceptance and understanding from his partner.

I’m going to send you a private message.

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