Support » Help! » January 23, 2021 11:13 am |
This situation is (no doubt) a million times harder when there are children involved...and there is infidelity on top of the deception. I will never understand how someone can treat the mother/father of their children this way...and blow up the entire family because of their own cowardice and selfishness.
I am glad you're getting support for yourself. I don't know how anyone goes through this alone.
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 9:26 pm |
We are both in our late 30s, married for over 9 years. I'm not sure about the testosterone factor, but I can understand why you might think there's a connection. It does seem more common in older men...though there may be other factors...since older straight men with lower testosterone don't suddenly turn gay. It could be boredom, depression, grass-is-greener syndrome...but it is definitely not a you problem...It's his issue...so try not to internalize it. Either way, it is something I worry about very much...the unpredictability of it...especially since I never saw it coming. I appreciate this forum because even though our stories are different in many ways...it's hard to deny the commonalities...(I'm also pretty resentful that I've had to find myself here, though!)
Many of us jump right into marriage counseling, and I think that's a mistake. I think you're doing it the right way...talking to someone one-on-one. I really wish I would have done that. Try to be as open and honest with the therapist and yourself—and put your needs first. I know that can be hard...especially for us women, I think. I've talked to a few women who become so wrapped up in their husband's sexuality—and this desperation to appease him—that they lose themselves.
So, I would say: Draw your line in the sand. Don't do or agree to anything that makes you uncomfortable...and know how incredibly important your happiness is.
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 7:29 pm |
Epiphany wrote:
Julian, how does your husband cope with his unmet needs? Is he resentful? Honesty is everything, communication key. I’m not sure I can get past the infidelity either. I’m hoping g counseling will help me see things clearer.
Since he's bisexual (and not gay), he is still primarily attracted to women....so, I'm not quite certain what those needs would be...or why he would be resentful. I am the one having the more difficult time with this being kept from me for years. We've always had a very active sex life — so I was truly blindsided. He doesn't have any experience with men. I told him if that was something he wanted to pursue, we could amicably split...but I would never agree to an open relationship...and he said he didn't want that either. The trust was fractured, but I do feel like our relationship has improved in other ways. So, I'm just taking it one day at a time.
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 6:08 pm |
I'm still married (and completely monogamous)...but my situation is a bit different than yours in that there wasn't any infidelity or gay apps or anything like that. I wouldn't personally be able to get over that. I think it's really good that you're seeking trauma counseling and have someone to talk to about all of this. One thing I would advise anyone attempting a MOM is to make sure you're very clear about your boundaries...and the consequences if those boundaries are violated. Within minutes of my husband telling me he's bisexual, I was clear that I was not willing to alter my life or values in any way. Nearly two years later, nothing has changed (which I consider a good thing).
Take care. I know this isn't easy.
Support » Do we tell the kids? » January 21, 2021 5:30 pm |
ThisTooShallPass wrote:
I am not separated yet, but I will be telling my children why. One is the same age as yours, one is older, and two are younger. They're all old enough to ask why, and anything other than the truth is a lie. Like OutofHisCloset said, it will be age appropriate of course. But I've had enough lying in my family, I do not intend to contribute more. As for the how...I haven't figured that out yet.
I'm not separated, but like most people who find themselves here, I've thought a lot about this scenario...and I'm with you on this. I would not feel right perpetuating the lies. But, the one thing I worried a lot about is our child being trapped in the closet, too — knowing my husband will never tell his very conservative family he's not straight.
Support » "Excuse me sir... can you help me?" » January 21, 2021 1:54 pm |
Maya — As Susanne said, you don't have to make any big decisions today...but you should start building your support network. Many here have felt tremendous relief just talking to someone they trust. Someone else suggested journaling, which I think is a great idea.
Divorce is painful...but I am quite certain it pales in comparison to the pain of being cheated on and having your physical/mental health compromised by someone you love. Kids are tremendously resilient...I know I wouldn't want my own mother (or my daughter) to suffer through this kind of pain. Your happiness is important, too (for you & your children).
Strategies for MOM's » What to do??? » January 21, 2021 12:20 pm |
Maya wrote:
I see myself in similar situation. I found out my husband is bisexual about 15 years ago, we almost divorced then but both of us reconciled since he had not have actual sexual encounter with another man, mostly cyberporn, sex toys. We had 3 kids after that reconciliation. But mid 2020 , I found a STD lab tests , which are all neg (-) when I was checking our annual blood works. I asked him about it , said it was just for pre procedure . Just recently , while I was going through our mail and bills, I saw a charge for a hotel in December using his own debit card , I was working on that day it got charged. Furthermore, I notice him holding his phone wherever he goes even just at home, or place it in his pocket. I tease him about it, he says just watching you tube. Then one night when he was asleep, I saw his phone was lit up, so I was about to turn it off and saw sexual photos and text messages with another man. Now, I am sure he had repeatedly have sexual encounters , not sure if they same man. He doesn’t know yet that I know about this encounters. I cannot sleep , cannot concentrate at work. Please Help!
Hi Maya...I'm so sorry you've found yourself here. I can imagine you are in a great deal of shock right now—and I think all of us can relate to not being able to sleep or concentrate at work. Not many people come to this section of the forum — so you may try re-posting this in the "Support" section. My suggestion (though I realize how difficult this is) is to try to remain calm...and gather as much evidence as you can before confronting your husband (because he will likely deny / blame-shift / and excuse away his behavior.) Going by the countless stories I've read here, many will only confess when faced with insurmountable evidence. Take care of yourself. I know how much this sucks.
…General Discussion » Do we gaslight ourselves? » January 20, 2021 9:55 pm |
Ellexoh_nz wrote:
My bisexual partner says he can be monogamous (stuff those feelings down....whatever)...but now sex is off the/my table, will that last? I have lost my desire for sex, with ANY man.
Do I trust him, do I put trust in a man who's been dishonest? Who put his own needs before ours
Elle
"Stuff those feelings down..." that is what I mean by "disadvantage." Yes, of course they can be monogamous. Infidelity is always a choice. But, can someone who has to stuff his/her feelings down ever be with us in the same way we are with them? I never had to stuff feelings down...but that is exactly what I imagine most of our partners did for years...until they boiled up to the surface.
General Discussion » Do we gaslight ourselves? » January 20, 2021 9:25 pm |
Sorry I wasn't clear...(typing faster than I can think...as usual!). By "disadvantage" I meant vs. being with a straight partner who isn't conflicted about his/her sexuality.
I'm not trying to argue with you (we're both here for the same reason, after all!)...I love my husband very much, but I won't excuse away the deception. You can empathize with the struggles LGBT people—our spouses—face...but still recognize it's morally wrong to keep such a big secret from the person you marry...and have children with. I minimize it in the sense that I have to...because I made the decision to stay and keep our family together...but I carry the weight of that secret now.
General Discussion » Do we gaslight ourselves? » January 20, 2021 5:43 pm |
TangledOil wrote:
Just like I'm attracted to others and not acting on it, neither is he. It's not that complicated. We are committed to one another.
Tangled
I often try to convince myself of this...but, I feel like the straight spouse (even in the best of scenarios) will always be at a disadvantage...Of course, we only ever know what our partners reveal...and these are the same people who kept this huge secret from us. So, I think it is complicated. If it weren't, they probably would have taken their secret to the grave without us ever even having a hunch that something was off.