Support » Help! » January 21, 2021 8:08 pm |
Hi Maya. We are in the exact same boat. I slept two hours last night because I was busy finding all my husband’s online relationships. Today he’s deleted and deleting them all. He is to give me his phone whenever as well as his code. He wants to still try, move forward and go to counseling.
Rob, what you said about cellphones, point on, the shaking..,I was shaking so bad last night.
This mistrust is the biggest issue, I believe my husband understands now that I want nothing but honesty, even if it means splitting. There’s so much on the line with the kids. My 18 year old asked me why I looked so exhausted today too. I can eat...lost 5 pounds in 2 weeks, that’s including a trip to Vegas.
I’m this with you,
Epiphany
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 7:50 pm |
Julian, for most of our marriage I felt and my husband felt he primarily preferred women as well. I asked him if it changes and if he were more attracted to men right now and his response was yes. That’s the change causing issues here but he went down a rabbit hole of online pics and relationships that fed that desire...our intimacy and connection had altered. Do you mind me asking your ages and how long you’ve been married? I believe as long as you communicate you’ll be better off than us . We are early 40’s . Married almost 19 years. I’m not sure all the factors that have contributed to his change but testosterone and relationship issues may be part of it.
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 6:56 pm |
Julian, how does your husband cope with his unmet needs? Is he resentful? Honesty is everything, communication key. I’m not sure I can get past the infidelity either. I’m hoping g counseling will help me see things clearer.
Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 21, 2021 5:33 pm |
Hi all. I started posting a few weeks ago due to the shock of learning just how deep my husband’s Bisexual desires were. I can’t even summarize the amount of information I’ve learned since then but I’ll try, along with our most recent developments. I can say with confidence that my husband is indeed Bisexual rather than gay at this point. I won’t go into detail as to how I know but along with more recent discoveries and communication I can say this....At this point in our marriage my husband wants to try and save it. He says he really loves me and I believe him. I’ve made it clear to him that I am not ok with infidelity and lies and that everything needs to be brought to the open so we can move forward with our reality. We are moving forward with couples counseling, he is unlocking his phone, deleting relationships and possibly social media all together. I am finding a therapy hat can help him in his sexual orientation, me in my trauma and us as we attempt to save our marriage. I think the biggest question will be, whether he can stop searching for a relationship with a male and if not, how do we move forward? I then have to find out just what I am and am not ok with. Personally I need time. I need time to become more independent and wrap my mind around this all so that if I do decide to leave, I am prepared and strong. I also feel WE deserve time to get to the bottom of this. I just wanted to share my status in hopes to gain feedback from anyone else in a similar situation. I also may take long breaks from the forum as to navigate our personal journey without putting others experiences into my own. Thanks for listening!
- Epiphany
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » January 12, 2021 1:55 pm |
Hi Sean. Not gonna lie, your post did put me into a slight panic. I can feel the adrenaline and emotions bubbling up and could now use a drink. I do appreciate bluntness though. I guess the only thing I’d clear up is that I’m not asking him to stay if he knows he’s gay. I already suspect more has happened than I’m aware of. He’s the one not being forthcoming and trying to keep me believing this will work. I don’t think he’s prepared to accept his truth. I think I’ve been accepting it longer than he has. Your advice of 6 months is good. I will take the time to go to counseling with and without him, have him go alone and will also start preparing for possible separation/divorce. I do believe people can be bisexual though and I can guarantee he’s been very attracted to women...me and others. While everything you’ve said could be point on, I do have to remind myself that everyone and every relationship is different. Right now I can’t see getting back to intimacy with him. That’s a huge issue for me. I am young. I do need intimacy and while I’ve been monogamous because of my annoyingly huge moral compass...I do have attractions to other men. Our love and family might need a little longer than 6 months...maybe it won’t. Either way, I really do appreciate your insight!
Thank you,
Epiphany
Support » Completely Blindsided » January 12, 2021 12:19 pm |
Hi Blindsided. I’m in a long term marriage too but to a bisexual man who may be headed towards identifying as gay. We love eachother deeply and I find myself asking some of the same questions as you. My advantage I supppse, is that I married him aware he was bisexual and have slowly been given clues over time that have allowed my heart and mind more time to deal. The similarities are that I am too coming to the realization that my soulmate and I may need to some day divorce. I’ve spent nights awake crying, heart palpitations, hyperventilating, a mess. What you and I are both going through is grief. It’s immense, traumatic pain. My sister-in-law lost her 13 year old son in September. I’ve been with her through it and have learned this.
1.) you need to lean into your grief and just let it be at times. Accept that it’s ok if you can’t function at times. When your heart can’t handle it, tell yourself to put it away for awhile...that you will deal with it another time.
2.) get a counselor and lean on a close friend. Share here often. People are important, we get eachother through the hard times.
3.) protect yourself and prepare if divorce seems to be your new reality. Talk to a lawyer, get copies of all financial information. Maybe do this while he’s gone.
What you are going through is more intense and faster paced than what I’m going through. You are probably in shock as you really were blindsided. You will hurt for awhile but then you might get angry. He cheated. He explored outside your marriage and put himself in a position to fall in love with another person. It’s ok for him to explore (porn, communication etc), it’s not ok for him to cheat. When your anger comes, allow it to strengthen you.
You will come out of this stronger eventually but in the meantime it’s ok to not be strong.
I’m in this with you,
Epiphany
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » January 12, 2021 11:41 am |
Hi Sean. I’m currently in a 19 year marriage with my high school best friend, turned boyfriend and now husband. I’m looking for your opinion on what he’s going through. I knew he was bisexual in highschool. We were in Show Choir together and he had about a 6 month relationship (secret to everyone else) with another male friend of ours. He also dated a plethora of girls and was sexual with both genders. Our relationship has been very passionate at times, then dry others. Long story short, I think what I’m discovering is that his desires have changed back and forth between genders over the years. The times he’s desired men, he’s looked outside the marriage though and that’s where our issues lie. He is hurting that he’s hurt me and we’ve made it clear that we love eachother. The past few years, we’ve had no sex. I recently discovered that he’s been messaging other men via Facebook messenger and sharing sexual pictures. I asked him if his desires have changed over the years and if he desires men more right now. He said yes. I asked if he is still attracted to women and he said yes. So I know he’s confused, doesn’t want to hurt me and that we both need counseling but I figured why not seek your opinion being someone that’s been in his similar shoes before. Questions I have...
1.) I know you are gay rather than bisexual, but do you know or have you heard, of any other men who have slowly leaned more towards identifying as gay rather than bisexual as they age? I’m wondering if it has anything to do with a decrease in testosterone levels. I only mention that because my husband has mentioned concerns over it.
2.) what communication strategies are best to get him to open up? Counseling? Are there specific questions I could ask and a way to present them that might help him discover his truth and share it honestly with me?
3.) in your experience, how did you move forward successfully in your divorce. How did you deal with the challenge of telling
Support » Feeling incredibly lost and lonely » January 12, 2021 10:41 am |
Hi Kat. I’m new to this forum but wanted to respond. What strikes me the most in your post is your willingness to bend yourself and your needs to meet and support his. We all do it here but I can tell you, looking back (I’m still very much in the middle of trying to figure out if my husband and I can make it through years of infidelity due to his unmet sexual desires for men)...that my biggest regret is loosing myself. I gave up the opportunity to pursue my dream of singing, going to college and chose to be the doting housewife and mother my husband wanted. Looking back, I think he may have been secretly worried that if I were too strong, I might decide to leave or if he allowed other men to talk to me (he gets very jealous if another man even talks to me), that I could be swept away by a straight man.
My whole point is don’t let this happen to you. Your husband is taking all this time to discover himself. Make sure you are doing the same for yourself. If you are not ok with these things, there is nothing to be ashamed of. You can tell him you love him and want to work but you think he needs counseling and maybe you do too. Set yourself up for success whatever your future may be. I am currently not sure if my future path will proceed with or without my husband. So I am having to prepare for both. I need to get stronger, figure out our finances, ask myself what I want in life etc....possibly preparing for divorce while also talking with my husband, being open and finding a counselor to help us and me sort through this all. I think the best advice I’ve been given is to take it slow , be true to yourself and accept nothing less and that none of us are alone in this. Another thing I find to be helpful in life in general, is to always be authentic but kind. Kindness and honesty along with good intentions go very far in every relationship, whether it’s that of friendship or marriage.
In this with you,
Epiphany
Support » I’m not ok » January 11, 2021 3:00 pm |
Thank you everyone for all of your responses. I was not aware of the counseling situation, with couples therapy being an issue sometimes. I was hoping to find a counselor we could each go to alone and then together. This morning my husband said that he thought I was maybe thinking this was way worse than it was. I said I don’t know, I don’t know what you’ve all done or for how long. Obviously I married him knowing he had experimented in the past..so when little things started happening I wasn’t as shocked but more betrayed. He had been my best friend forever. Why couldn’t he talk to me about this like he used to? I told him twice, under 2 different instances that I just need him to loyal to us. I told him if he had desires to talk to me and we could incorporate it into our intamacy. He never did though and claims that I haven’t acted “in love” with him in years. I don’t really understand though because I got past the hurt and pain, believed he was having ED issues and was waiting patiently for him to go to the Dr. he still says he thinks he should. Somebody mentioned that my husband sounded like he needed counseling. I agree and he is agreeing to go. When we spoke yesterday, he said he’s been reflecting “trying to figure out what’s wrong, wanting the thoughts to stop”. He told me today that I’m not a cover, that he’s in love with me. However when I asked if he was more attracted to men currently (going back and forth through the years as an in denial Bisexual), he said yes. He said it’s sexual though and doesn’t want relationships. I explained that could change if he developed an emotional connection. So I’m so confused. I did finally get some sleep which helped. I think I’m going to try and stop digging until after Vegas. I don’t want to ruin his birthday and I do think it might be good. There will be no intimacy so no worries. I’ve decided that’s not happening for awhile and probably will ask him to be tested for STD’
…Support » I’m not ok » January 11, 2021 3:58 am |
This is the 3rd time in the past week I’ve been up for hours, crying in the middle of the night. In 2009 I discovered some of my husband’s infidelity. Some of it with a woman, but found emails with a man and learned he had kissed a man at a gay bar. I knew he was bisexual in our younger days but he told me those feelings were gone (at the time we married), and that he thought it was a stage. There’s a lot of details to our story but I’m just going to fast forward to current day. Last week I found a KY jelly receipt, he claims it was a work prank gift for Christmas, could be true. It led me to asking for his phone. He did not give it to me till going in the bathroom for 5 minutes. I still found a message he sent to another man, calling him sexy, trying to start a conversation (he forgot to delete 1, I think because the guy was unresponsive).
Today I talked to him. I shared that I needed honesty, I asked more questions. I asked what he deleted and he finally admitted that it was Facebook messages, sexual pictures they would send back and forth. Later I looked at his friends list and took screenshots of every man he has no other friends in common with. I’m not sure if there is a private Bi-curious group but I probably will ask him how he found them all at one point. I asked him if he has had sex with anyone else during our marriage, he said no. I asked if he had oral sex with anyone else during our marriage, he just stared at me. I said who? And started naming people. He finally said, a guy he met at a bar while traveling when he was 26 (so 14 years ago before our son was born). I asked him if he feels like his attraction is stronger for men sometimes and women other times. He said yes. I asked if he felt more attracted to men right now and he said yes. Those were the biggest discoveries. I was crying, he seemed pretty ok. He then gave me a hug and said “we’ll get through this”. He knows I want monogamy. He said he wants it to stop, his desires. (I kn