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General Discussion » Just a rant » January 29, 2021 3:28 pm

Epiphany
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Bluebear...bit of an after thought I had when thinking back to this thread. You said being with a straight person is a game changer. What do you notice the major differences are? I’ve just been doing a lot of soul searching. Asking myself what I can and cannot deal with. Wondering right now how much greener the grass might be in a straight relationship. I’m only 41 and never had one...my first boyfriend  ended being gay too, I’m a freaking magnet 🙄

- Epiphany

General Discussion » Just a rant » January 29, 2021 1:40 pm

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Tangled, that’s some great insight. When I asked my husband if he thought his preference switched back and forth, he said yes...when I asked if it was leaning more towards men right now...he said yes.

This morning I took a sexuality test and was like 90% straight, 10% gay....I’m assuming because I answered that I find women attractive sometimes, though I’ve never wanted anything...it’s more like an acknowledgment. I sent the test to him and he was 89% Straight 94%Gay....his results = Bisexual and my results = Heterosexual. So I said to him “well I guess it’s pretty accurate considering everything but now you need to decide what you want to do yourself/with us and your life moving forward. He said he wants us. I responded that I do too and I hope he begins to desire me more again. I realize I have to ask myself what I want too. I do believe love is worth fighting for but not at the expense of one’s mental health. He understands I love him but will not accept these conditions anymore. So we will move forward and see if I’m able to help him scratch that itch enough under my terms. Time will tell!!

- Epiphany

Strategies for MOM's » Help, support, advice,...whatever you got. » January 29, 2021 11:11 am

Epiphany
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Hi SupportiveHusband, our situations are somewhat similar. My husband is Bisexual, we love eachother dearly, I don’t want him living a lie or repressing things but I want to feel desired again and we both want to try to move forward together. Our situations are different in that he has sought to feel his needs outside our marriage on and off throughout the years, creating a pattern that was recently brought to light upon my discovery of his several cybersex relationships with other men.. with talks of meeting up in real life.

I’ve already searched my soul and heart and know that I’m not ok with him having a side relationship to fulfill his desires. Why? Because it leads to the opportunity for him to fall in love with someone else and takes his efforts and heart away from us. We’ve talked about what I am ok with. .bringing it into the bedroom via different foremast, which we have had  promising results from. I agree that you married her with the intention of being eachother’s everything. This situation is so hard because you can have the deepest love for someone, like other worldly and beyond unconditional it are faced with having to feel like you are undesirable, not enough and having to self sacrifice your own needs and wants.

Stay strong in those needs and wants. Go to couples counseling and talk talk talk. Don’t ever feel guilty for being jealous or hurt though, you and I...all of us, have the right to those emotions.

Best of luck!!
- Epiphany

Support » Help! » January 29, 2021 10:40 am

Epiphany
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Maya, I agree with you. He’s too far gone from the marriage already. He may freak out upon confrontation or even lash out, he will be totally caught off guard so be prepared. You may want to get proof of a few financial items before confronting him as well...just in case things go south and he tries to move money or something. This has been such a burden for you to hide and try and deal with on your own...pretending every day that you are ok. My heart goes out to you. Best of luck and Blessings on your journey ahead.

- Epiphany

General Discussion » Just a rant » January 29, 2021 9:37 am

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Elle, it sounds like you had made your mind up and both knew what you were ok and not ok with. I’d have the convo with him again just to see if he’s still ok if you are still worried about his feelings. My husband and I had our first consultation with what will be our counselor moving forward yesterday. I was able to give her very definite answers as to what my boundaries were...I want to be truly desired again, will he ever provide that? I want monogamy, does he too? I want honesty. I’m ok with bringing it into the bedroom but not him having side relationships etc.... but when she asked him questions for example “do you want a monogamous relationship” he paused, “well I know I need to be monogamous for our marriage to work”. I brought this to his attention later. He seems to think the counselor should be able to TELL us what to do. I said no, she’s trying to draw your truth out, you need to stop answering questions because you know that’s what I want to hear and start answering them for you. I k ow he’s torn cause he loves me and wants us to work but he probably needs counseling on his own to figure out his sexual orientation and what he wants to do about that in regards to our marriage and life. I say, if your husband is confident with his choice to stay celibate in your marriage then let him own that choice but if you revisit the conversation and he’s changed his mind, how do you move forward? There is so much more to marriage and that’s why this sucks so much. Our marriage is so
good  in every other aspect, our souls connect on a deep level and we almost NEED eachother. This is one of the craziest most complicated problems for anyone to have to navigate through.

Rob..,I can’t stop laughing at the unbeknownst to me I was on probation 😂,

To everyone in this situation...the part about feeling ugly and  unattractive is REAL. I keep wondering if I were 20 pounds lighter would he want me? My friends tell me I’m beautiful, I’ve had

Support » Help! » January 27, 2021 1:29 pm

Epiphany
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Maya, please keep us posted. We have a 15-20 min consultation with our counselor tomorrow but I’m so anxious to talk to her alone. I’ve mentioned before wanting to know everything but then there’s a side of me that tells me to hang on and try. I need time and I’m worried about finding something that will put me over the edge. It’s not smart of me to rush this financially etc...I’m curious what kind of advice your counselor will give you. Though every situation is different, I feel like we are in the same exact boat right now. Best of luck!!! 🍀

- Epiphany

Support » Help! » January 26, 2021 9:30 pm

Epiphany
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😂😂😂
And involves my favorite color. Makes it sound prettier too  lol. Once I heard the term, I started googling famous lavender marriages.

Support » Help! » January 26, 2021 8:14 pm

Epiphany
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Maya, when you are ready, I highly suggest confronting him. I battle with this because I want to be smart, I’m not ready to be on my own but at my lowest moments I realize I’ll take struggle any day over crying in the middle of the night for hours on end. Then I think of the kids, telling my parents and what it would do to them but this group has showed me, that we cannot take on this burden alone.

I’m not sure how things will go for you but when I confronted my husband he gradually told me some stuff. I’d search his friends list, ask who these guys were, he’d say he could tell they were bisexual by ads they liked on Facebook (bullshit), he had joined a secret Facebook group...I started searching, asking, then I’d take it all in, cry, we’d have a few good hours or days. Then my mind would think “what about Instagram, Snapchat etc..”. Well last week Thursday night I discovered a godaddy.com intimate massage friend in his Instagram. I grabbed his phone and made him unlock it. I spent 1.5 hours discovering his “best friends” on Snapchat, one of them had nude pics saved so I knew instantly what these friends were all doing. The gut wrenching moment for me though was when I discovered “rooms by the hour” on his search history. I’d look back at the days/times and realize he’d search this when I was sitting in the living room with him or texting him at work. He told me he thought of meeting a guy but hadn’t yet. Today he shared 4 months of credit card statements and his PayPal statement. There is nothing on our bank statements showing he purchased a hotel room so I actually believe him. In this time though, I learned he had a relationship with another man while we were engaged, a one night BJ event while traveling and a few other inquiries.

So here we sit, I know his urges are serious, I’ve tried to get him to admit that he’s moved onto men, explained I don’t want him to live a lie, offered a lavender marriage etc... But his respon

Strategies for MOM's » Tug-o-war of thoughts and emotions » January 25, 2021 1:18 pm

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Anyone else in this group struggle with a constant back and forth regarding your feelings about your MOM? I find myself looking, searching, wondering what I don’t know...questioning my husband then decide to just stop and try to be more positive. So then for a few days we are affectionate, loving, open. Then I’m withdrawn, or he’s withdrawn and the cycle continues. We have a counseling consultation this Thursday. I’m really hoping it helps with this confusion. He keeps saying I’m his everything, he’s attracted to me, we can get through this , he’s sorry etc. but then I think, how am I ever going to be enough for him? He has a Dr. appointment March 2nd to address ED issues and have a physical. I realize testosterone levels probably don’t affect a person’s sexuality all that much but it does seem that since the ED issues started, his preference began to change. So I’m hoping it helps us. I just don’t know what to believe. I don’t want to believe a lie but he keeps telling me we will get through this. I just wish I knew all,  then again everything at once might be too much. I feel as though we are in this purgatory of unknowns, complicated by his confusion and half truths. If we need to just be married for awhile without the intimate connection then fine, but he keeps saying he wants us to work fully. I’ve told him if he needs to be with men then we can be married as friends for awhile, free to do our own thing but together for the family. The thing is he still gets very jealous of any other guy around me. I just wish I knew if I should attach or detach because it’s Impossible to do both.

Strategies for MOM's » Joining the MOM group (for now) » January 22, 2021 9:48 am

Epiphany
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Thank you Tangled, I will check back...sorry you lost all that thought and effort, how frustrating!!! Julian, I will remember to not lose myself. I’ve decided though we are going to be working on us, that this is my time too. I’ve given everything to my family and in the process lost myself. My youngest is 12. My biggest fear through this all , if we had to divorce...was how in the world would I support myself? I’m a stay at home Mom now who has the luxury of being here constantly to help my family...watch my granddaughter on a whim (I’m only 41, young mother’s run in the family), help my son with homework, healthy habits and sports..be here for my 18 year old daughter as she navigates her future, cook healthy dinners, take care of all 4 of our pets, etc..  So the idea of having to go back to work full time in a job where I’d make $9 per hour, and lose all those benefits etc.. was scary. At my lowest moments though, I almost preferred that struggle to what I was going through. I told my husband that he has to be completely open and honest is he truly loves me...even if that’s telling me that he now prefers and needs a man at any point in our marriage. He will be going to counseling to help but he’s already been open and honest...disclosing the different moments over the years when his urges were stronger towards Men and what he did during that time, explaining that it’s almost years rather than months. Like 2 years of preferring men, then 2 years preferring women. We’ve discussed how we can help him through that in a way that we can stay Monogomous. Even though he’s been in a stretch of preferring Men, he is still attracted to women and to me. He is, at this point, definitely Bisexual. With all that said...I’ve also told him that I’ve given every piece of myself to this family but now is my time. I have given up school, singing and taking time for myself to even work out. I’ve decided I’m going to take classes for photography and start

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