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Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 15, 2024 10:21 am

Lostperson
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Update :

He is acting crazy ...one minute he is telling me that he wants to do whatever I want and the other he says all this is old and he doesn't mind people knowing but (it's a past thing and not current) ..he tone is becoming more aggressive .

I think he will try to find some other stupid woman to believe his stories !

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 14, 2024 8:47 pm

Lostperson
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OutofHisCloset wrote:

Lostperson:
    Fight for what you want: your children.  That includes their future, so don't give away your and their future just to get away.  You can tell the lawyer that you would like an option--one that is still equitable--that allows you to see him or interact with him as little as possible.  

Yes I want my kids and their future. He is telling me now that he doesn't mind telling people that this was in his past but I think he is just manipulating to make me feel that the pictures I have are not a big deal.

Part of me really feels bad ...also I feel angry that he seems to be fine focused on his career while I'm struggling and crying day and night ..

I think his parents will push him to marry another woman and I'm sure he will think that will help him get over things ...not even sure why I care except that I feel it's so unfair !

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 14, 2024 7:22 pm

Lostperson
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Daryl wrote:

If he used combined savings to create a business, you have an ownership stake. On the assumption you want no part of the ownership, he should be reimbursing your portion.

Don't let him off the hook financially when it comes to providing for his kids. This is where a lawyer protects your interests.

As for mediation, I think it's really for people who are amicably separating. As soon as one person can't trust the other one to be fair, mediation is probably of little value.

Lostperson wrote:

I honestly don't care about child support .I have been paying for food,clothes,school,child care and activities !! he pays mortgage and household bills.

He used all our savings to create his company last year !

I'm so angry , I don't mind paying for my children for life but I just feel I gave away everything and destroyed my life with my own hands.

 

I'm meeting with the lawyers in 2 days ...he just spent one our trying to convince me that all this was in the past and he doesn't want anything to do with the past !! He seems ok with the divorce ...I don't know if I believe anything anymore

As for financial things I'll ask the lawyer about options.i don't want anything to do with him anymore


I feel bad but he will always be in denial ...

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 14, 2024 12:26 pm

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Anon2222 wrote:

So, my ex-husband turned into a monster. He was completely incapable of any form of kindness. Honestly, I think he would kill me if he had the chance. I have struggled hard with this. I know divorce is awful, but he took it to the next level and aimed for total world annihilation. 

So far it has cost me $30,000 in legal bills. I pray I am getting to the end of the process. At this point, you would think I would be immune to his toxicity....except I have spent the last few hours crying. Unfortunately, I am being forced to be in contact with him for the sale of the property (in mediation I actually got told I was the one that had to communicate better) and having his hatred slam into me again is just destroying my mental health. I've reached the point where I would sell the place at a loss just to get away.

I am so tired of being the punching bag. These people are evil. I look at everything all the straight spouses do, all the sacrifices, the support....and then we just get them yelling in our face that nothing we did was good enough, everything we did was wrong, and everything is all our fault.

Omg 30K ! Do you have minor kids ?
I feel exactly the same ! Now I just notice how the straight spouses interact ! How much they give and care for each other! While I had to hear to listen to years of complaints about everything in me !

I told him his sexuality is the root cause of all this but I actually think he would rather be with anyone else men,women or anyone in between ! I discovered msgs to his previous colleague telling her that he misses his days with her and the smart lady ignored him !

All these years of being told that I'm not enough ...I confronted him and he said this is not the issue!!

So if you say you want to sell at loss ,I understand!!

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 14, 2024 10:50 am

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Lostperson wrote:

OutofHisCloset wrote:

I spent less than $2,000 getting divorced.  My lawyer, an uncontested divorce.  My ex did not get a lawyer of his own. We had no minor children.  

We had one mediation session after I had consulted a lawyer but before I retained her.  We saw the mediator  at my ex's insistence (for free, the initial consultation), because my ex insisted we didn't need a lawyer--he thought mediation would be cheaper and avoid conflict--which I knew to be wrong, because we would still need a lawyer to implement what was agreed on in mediation.  But I knew he wouldn't take my word on that, so I agreed to the meeting, knowing the outcome, and, sure enough, the mediator set him straight. 

When you retain a lawyer, tell the lawyer what you want in terms of child custody.  Many men who divorce want 50/50 custody not because they want their children, but because they don't want to pay child support. Don't forget that you have leverage in the form of his not wanting the secret exposed.  

That you are torn between emotions (one minute thinking you'll miss him, the other that you want him to disappear) is normal and part of the process.  The more you can look at your emotions, and realize that they are a normal part of the process, rather than an expression of something about you, the easier it will be for you.  The process does take an emotional toll.  Get help from your doctor or a therapist, or unload to friends and here.  
 

 

Thank you for your response .I have been seeing a therapist weekly...sometimes twice a week ...I'll probably need medications as well....
We have two minor children ...
I don't want 50/50 ...I want the kids with me majority of the time ..I want to protect them because his family is very religious and they try to brainwash my kids .

I honestly don't care about child support .I have been paying for food,clothes,school,child care and activities !! he pays mortgage and household bills.

He used all o

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 14, 2024 10:48 am

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OutofHisCloset wrote:

I spent less than $2,000 getting divorced.  My lawyer, an uncontested divorce.  My ex did not get a lawyer of his own. We had no minor children.  

We had one mediation session after I had consulted a lawyer but before I retained her.  We saw the mediator  at my ex's insistence (for free, the initial consultation), because my ex insisted we didn't need a lawyer--he thought mediation would be cheaper and avoid conflict--which I knew to be wrong, because we would still need a lawyer to implement what was agreed on in mediation.  But I knew he wouldn't take my word on that, so I agreed to the meeting, knowing the outcome, and, sure enough, the mediator set him straight. 

When you retain a lawyer, tell the lawyer what you want in terms of child custody.  Many men who divorce want 50/50 custody not because they want their children, but because they don't want to pay child support. Don't forget that you have leverage in the form of his not wanting the secret exposed.  

That you are torn between emotions (one minute thinking you'll miss him, the other that you want him to disappear) is normal and part of the process.  The more you can look at your emotions, and realize that they are a normal part of the process, rather than an expression of something about you, the easier it will be for you.  The process does take an emotional toll.  Get help from your doctor or a therapist, or unload to friends and here.  
 

 

Thank you for your response .I have been seeing a therapist weekly...sometimes twice a week ...I'll probably need medications as well....
We have two minor children ...
I don't want 50/50 ...I want the kids with me majority of the time ..I want to protect them because his family is very religious and they try to brainwash my kids .

I honestly don't care about child support .I have been paying for food,clothes,school,child care and activities !! he pays mortgage and household bills.

He used all our savings to crea

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 13, 2024 8:21 pm

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Thelight wrote:

Sending you a big hug I’m in month 8 and he is still here. Threatening to leave I say ok then begs to stay. I’m done.  I know financially it will be hard in both.  I’m getting stronger.  I try to fix everything and it is not healthy for me.  I see it now.  I’m proud that you are even talking to lawyer ! Good girl.  Can you find a cheaper lawyer will he contest a bunch of stuff?

Thank you...I can't believe you are in month 8 ...it's been 24 days and I'm dying every day ...it's like a slow death .

Yes I'm looking for another lawyer.I have an appointment in 2 days.

He was literally telling me that I'll be ok few mins ago because I was crying ...I told him my whole life is destroyed and he will be fine..he compartmentalizes things so I think he will succeed and continue to hide. In addition, he will probably tell terrible stories about me .He says he won't but I don't believe him.

I honestly don't understand my self ...one minute I feel like I'll miss him and the next minute I want him to disappear ...

I don't know if he will contest ...probably the children will be the biggest issue. he is asking me for more time but I feel like he is playing me .

Support » Forgiveness » May 13, 2024 7:02 pm

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Salgal1960 wrote:

I know what you mean.  I thought about forgiveness. a lot! First, I decided I could only feel compassion for him for being gay.  I don't believe anyone can CHOOSE their sexuality, and why would they when the world is against them? My ex is still in the closet, even after both of his parents died. He's so ashamed he can't admit it.  He's angry at me for admitting it for him, even when I presented him with his own black and white evidence! Just as your spouse didn't believe he was cheating, mine said he was only having sexual fantasies, that it wasn't real, so he didn't do anything. He didn't believe he is gay either. So, I think the ANGER we feel is what prevents forgiveness. I can't forgive MYSELF for being so blind and wasting my younger life on a lie! I'm mostly angry that he allowed us to have a child whose life should not have included this hardship on all of us! We can't tell him we forgive him, because as long as someone won't admit what the problem IS, you can't express your feelings about it! Regardless, forgiveness is for US,not for them. It's to relieve our own pain so that we can release them and let them go into our past never to return. 

Your story is simulilar to mine ...I feel so stupid for wasting 8 years and involving two children! He tells me he hasn't been gay for 10 years even though I discovered daily gay porn!

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 13, 2024 5:59 pm

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Thelight wrote:

Call it what you want codependency a fixer etc no it is not a bad thing however if you have done it for years in the healthcare field it likely you do it in your personal life.  Emotional attachment is hard to break for sure.  Just don’t loose yourself and what is best for you.  My husband has done the same thing crying one minute then ok the next.  It usually depends on my reactions to situations.  Stay strong I’m getting there.

Yes I do it in every aspect of my life !

He is telling me that he is here to support me, and I should just stop being miserable !! He thinks this is a joke ! I don't understand how a person I lived with can do that !! He is laughing with the kids !and I'm sitting in my room wanting to disappear !

I feel so bad for my kids ..they are 6 years old.

Is He/She Gay » I can't make a decision » May 13, 2024 4:30 pm

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OutofHisCloset wrote:

Zero empathy for the deliberate deception and betrayal of the person you promised to love sounds like a reasonable response to me.  

Please don't let his "week to think" lull you into inaction.  You don't have any idea what he might be doing in that week, including emptying joint bank accounts or seeing lawyers.  

So true ...he was crying all the time and suddenly yesterday he started acting as if nothing has happened. I'll meet a lawyer this week.

The mediator wants $3100! This sounds too much ! In addition to a lawyer .

How much did you spend on this process ?

Of course money will not bring back my years !

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