General Discussion » Update » February 18, 2021 8:43 pm |
Epiphany wrote:
I’ve stopped trying to dress or act a certain way realizing this isn’t on me. That realization in and of its self is very freeing. )
This is a great place to be...!
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » February 16, 2021 10:17 pm |
Sean wrote:
Thanks for posting JS. Two questions for you:
Question 1: What is your current status (married, separated, divorced)?
Question 2: What advice would you give to a younger you when you first discovered your partner was gay?
1: I'm married (about 2 years post-bomb drop)
2: My husband is bisexual...not gay (It still seems a bit odd even typing that sometimes...maybe because nothing actually changed in our relationship). I have way too high of a libido to attempt a MOM with a gay man (though I might make an exception for Antoni Porowski). My advice to my younger self would probably be: Ask him if he's straight...haha
Is He/She Gay » Feeling alone in this » February 16, 2021 3:57 pm |
There is nothing kind about cheating on your wife (with multiple men) and putting her health at risk...so I found that forum wasn't for me. It was doing a lot more harm than good for my own emotional well-being (especially in those early days).
Yes, a lot of the stories in here are really depressing...and while I can't relate to many of them on a personal- experience level (my husband didn't cheat or sexually neglect me or ask for an open relationship) I can relate to the shock of finding out your partner isn't who he/she presented him/herself as...that feeling like the rug's been pulled from beneath you...and the anxiety that comes with wondering what that means for your marriage & family. This forum has been a good sounding board for me.
General Discussion » Update » February 16, 2021 3:12 pm |
Blue Bear wrote:
Epiphany wrote:
(our counselor is pushing us to consider pologamy which neither of us want, we are waiting to see if she changes her tune). So counselor felt a bit off/pushy in the wrong direction for us but the session did lead us to having deeper more honest conversations.
I think some of these counselors try to live a swinging, sexually adventurous life vicariously through their clients.
Now that is an interesting theory.
I just think most counselors aren't equipped to deal with this. I was amazed by how little research on "the straight spouse experience" is available. Many here have had more success with therapists who specialize in trauma, it seems.
Is He/She Gay » Feeling alone in this » February 16, 2021 1:36 pm |
Yes. I'm familiar with that subreddit. I was banned by the moderator for "shaming" a guy who was cheating on his unknowing wife. There weren't many straight spouses actively driving conversations there....mostly men lamenting monogamy or looking for "chat" buddies.
Yes..your story may be atypical because you knew your husband was not straight going into marriage (most of us didn't). It's the lie that's been hardest for me to grapple with...and I think many people here can relate to that.
Is He/She Gay » Feeling alone in this » February 16, 2021 1:06 pm |
I'm not in a horrible situation...but what I appreciate about this forum is that everyone here is looking out for the straight spouse...whereas other forums I've stumbled across (in Reddit, for example) are more focused on the non-straight spouse...and fulfilling his/her "needs"(as they're so often referred to)...I can't tell you how many times I've been asked how I'm keeping my husband satisfied/helping him scratch his "itch"...Never once (outside of this forum) was I asked how he's making me feel loved/fulfilled/desired...and building back my trust. I never in a million years imagined I'd end up here...but, at one of the lowest points of my life, it was comforting to know I wasn't alone....and that my fears/anger/sadness/expectations were valid.
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » February 16, 2021 11:11 am |
Sean wrote:
So what's my point? Eventually, the straight spouse looks for and finds overwhelming proof that he's gay. Some straight spouses start to rationalize their husband's homosexuality in terms he's used such as, "He was only on the receiving end of a blowjob..." or "He had sex with a guy once...but it didn't mean anything..." or "He's acting out [f*cking men] because he was molested as a child..." Then the cycle repeats and when she's seriously considering separation/divorce I start to read things like, "Yes he's had sex with men for years but he doesn't want a relationship with another man." It's all conversion-therapy-Christian "It's a choice" bullsh*t.
Good point. There probably is a lot of regurgitation going on....but it doesn't seem to be religiously driven in most cases I've come across (but maybe it's not clear to me...the conversion therapy connection you're making)
In many cases, I think it's more a survival mechanism (I may be making up or manipulating terms here)...Early on, I landed on this subreddit geared toward bisexuals. It was mostly men...but there were several straight wives active in the sub. MANY had 3-4 children and left the workforce long ago to care for them...so they were in very vulnerable positions when their husbands "came out" (often with a request to open the relationship) or were found out...so I can sort of understand why some minimize it as "just sex." I began chatting (privately) with one of the straight wives. And even though her sex life had increasingly become her playing the part of a man in bed, she continued to describe her husband as "mostly straight...with a penis fetish" or "heteroflexible."
Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » February 15, 2021 9:16 pm |
While I typically wouldn't recommend threesomes for most people in a committed relationship (so much can—and often does—go wrong)...I do think it can potentially help solve the "Is he/she gay?" riddle. If your spouse lights up like a Christmas tree around the same sex (but can't even get/keep it up...or feign passion...for you)...that's pretty telling. And if a stranger (the third) looks at you with more desire than the person you've committed your life to....well, that may just be the lightbulb moment—and self-esteem boost—the straight spouse needs (particularly those who've silently accepted blame for a lackluster sex life).
I wrote a post recently about the way straight spouses often minimize their partner's same-sex attraction as just sex: "It's just [insert sexual act]...he doesn't want a relationship with another man" ...If it's just about sexual release, there are many ways to achieve that—both with the straight spouse and/or solo....Yet, the non-straight spouse is willing to risk everything (his/her marriage, full-time access to children, financial security in some cases) for just sex? It doesn't make sense to me. But even if it were just sex...why does that somehow soften the blow? It wouldn't for me...not one bit (whether it was another man or another woman my partner was having just sex with).
Support » He is already seeing someone... » February 14, 2021 12:27 pm |
Is there a reason for delaying divorce? I think that's an important step for helping you to move on.
Support » He is already seeing someone... » February 14, 2021 11:44 am |
OutofHisCloset wrote:
One way to "get through this" is to get a lawyer, for yourself. You already know that you can't count on your husband to be honest with you. In fact, you may even discover that the "few people" is really "one person." You wouldn't be the first to be left--and to be jerked around--because your closeted spouse has found a same-sex lover. A lawyer can tell you your rights under the law, and can advise you on what to do and not to do to protect yourself and your children. Your spouse has already spent a great deal of marital money on his "new apartment" and "new furniture."
^^^I second this. Definitely see a lawyer.