Support » It just gets more difficult and confusing » March 31, 2021 8:53 pm |
I just wanted to say (in case I haven't yet) how incredibly strong I think you are...and resilient and empathetic.
Strategies for MOM's » Is love enough? » March 31, 2021 8:49 pm |
Is love enough?
No. I don't think so.
I love many people in my life. It's the passion that sets a marriage apart from those other relationships. Without it, you just have a roommate who splits the bills and childcare duties...that is, until he's "figured himself out" (found someone worth leaving his comfortable life for.) Life is so short...and we only get one. I think you deserve so much more.
Support » He said it's too late for him » March 2, 2021 10:43 pm |
AuroraMoon wrote:
I feel like whatever happens, I will be ok. I need to stop trying to control everything and be ok with not knowing what is going to happen. That's really hard for me. I want to know the outcome of this but that's impossible.
I can relate to this so much. I remember those brief moments of calm in those dark days...I knew nothing then, but I knew I would be OK. Those moments were fleeting...Then I would feel the crushing weight of all the things I didn't know...those things that were both beyond my control and tied to whatever decisions I made. I remember saying to the therapist (our post-bomb couples counselor) during my one solo session: I don't need therapy. I need a psychic and a bottle of wine.
General Discussion » Chump Lady drops a truth bomb on a straight spouse » February 21, 2021 6:49 pm |
I am not religious — so I can't relate to the religious aspect of your struggle. But, I will say this: My husband's mother is what I would describe as extremely Catholic. She devotes so much of her life to the church that I often wondered why she didn't become a nun. She got divorced when my husband was a teenager (after his father confessed to an affair with another woman). I have no doubt that was incredibly difficult for her. It is so sad to me that she never remarried (due to her religious beliefs) because—though I don't see eye-to-eye with her on many issues—she is an incredibly kind and loving woman....who fell in love with the wrong man at 17. Divorce is hard for the entire family (no doubt)...but all four children wished their mother would have had the love and romance she deserved. I do, too. FWIW.
General Discussion » Coming out Article » February 21, 2021 4:42 pm |
lily wrote:
So very happy to have Dr Joe, Gay Whisperer at work but when it comes to marital relationships I do not think he has any real understanding of what it is like to be straight. I'd like to know what his stats are in liberating straight wives from marriage to a GID as opposed to further enmeshing them in it.
Very true. I'd be interested in seeing those stats, too. I'm sure 99% of the couples meet with Dr. Kort (at the wife's insistence) to get help with making a MOM work...which is what he advertises as one of his specialities. Maybe he's so insufferable the GID spouse comes out just to avoid having another session!
General Discussion » Coming out Article » February 21, 2021 2:52 pm |
Ellexoh_nz wrote:
Julian_Stone wrote:
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I seem to recall that Joe Kort is gay. The woman you mention....whose husband came out as gay after only 1 zoom session....I wonder how relieved she was, and did she ever think "if we hadn't gone to a gay counselor.....my husband may never have admitted/realised he was gay."
I also wonder was it the straight wife or the husband who initiated the appointment. Was it the gay man leaving it up to the wife to organise the counseling revelation, the coming out because he was terrified to do it himself?
How pathetic these men are, and how brave the straights are to realise it's possibly the only way to get it out into the open....
It makes me angry and sad
Elle
No doubt it was the straight one who made the appointment...Isn't it always the straight one who's endlessly Googling, Redditing, reading every relevant article and psychological study?
I did a quick search in this forum for "Kort", and found that it was actually two women who met with Dr. Kort and had the same result: Their husbands finally came out as gay. So maybe he is a "gay whisperer" of sorts. I'm sure these women were relieved to finally get the truth....so they could begin the healing process and get back to other interests that don't involve endlessly trying to figure out their husband's sexuality.
General Discussion » Coming out Article » February 20, 2021 3:20 pm |
Intriguing read...especially the part about the "dissociation." Thank you for posting.
I can imagine how hard this is for you...and how stuck you must feel.
Are you familiar with Joe Kort? He was a guest on one of the straight spouse podcasts...and he's written at least one book ("Is my husband bi, gay, or straight?") and several articles. I've not read the book...but I've come across a few articles he'd written...They're more geared toward the non-straight spouse...and helping them understand their identity....so I didn't find them very useful for me (personally)...But there was a woman who posted here a while back...I'm not sure if she is still active here. She and her husband did a counseling session with him (via Zoom)...and it must have been pretty effective because her husband came out as gay after their first session....Before, he was still clinging to the "bi" label. It may be something to look into.
Take care of yourself.
Support » Just call me crazy! » February 20, 2021 2:53 pm |
You're not a disaster. You're not crazy. You're reacting like anyone would in this situation. The crying is a healthy reaction. I'll be honest: This relationship sounds extremely toxic...and I have zero doubt that if you left it, you'd get to a much better place. It's going to take a lot of self-love and continued therapy...new hobbies, new friends, a place of your own...and time. But, god, you deserve so much better than what you're dealing with right now. Marriage should never be this painful. Keep posting. We've got your back here.
Support » Just call me crazy! » February 19, 2021 1:51 pm |
Upside wrote:
In many cases, an affair may already be occurring, with the timeline acting as retroactive absolution for their actions. Be careful and vigilant. I say this not to scare you, but as a friend who wants you to be safe.
This was my gut reaction, too. The arbitrary timeline is such a strange detail. I stumbled across a quote once...something along the lines of "If your partner asks for an open relationship, there's a good chance you're already in one."
You will always be enough for the right person.
Support » Just call me crazy! » February 18, 2021 10:02 pm |
You're not crazy, Queen. Most of us don't get married thinking our husband is going to one day text us that he wants a boyfriend...THAT is crazy. We get so wrapped up in the sexual orientation business...but the bottom line is: You're just incompatible. The letter might be therapeutic (even if you don't send it). Do you have a close friend you can talk to? This is some heavy stuff...you shouldn't have to deal with it alone.