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Support » Pillar of the community » May 7, 2017 5:12 pm

Lyonene
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My other question is, should I tell the soon to be in laws? The mother already called me and told me that I should see therapist because she wants the wedding to go off without a hitch. And that was after I made the simple request to be kept away from him at the wedding i.e. don't expect me to sit at the same table during or after the wedding because I want NO CONTACT with him at any point.That was my only comment to her. The truth is,  I literally become sick when I'm in the same area, I need to vomit  [and have] and my whole body shakes uncontrollably. IT's all terribly upsetting!

In my humble opinion, your children have the right of first knowledge on this topic. It's their mother, their father. The future in-laws I would leave in the consideration of my daughter. It is going to be her mother in-law. I would pose the question to her after informing her of where you stand and why, if she would like to convey the situation to in-laws, or would she be more comfortable with you doing it.

She's getting married, mom. She's an adult soon to have children of her own. Were I you, I would bring her in and include her as an adult in all ways.

Support » Pillar of the community » May 7, 2017 2:48 pm

Lyonene
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Under these circumstances is it okay to tell my children and the in-laws the truth?
Why should I suffer? 
Ive ut my kids welfare in front of my own for so long...when is it time for the truth? And how do i tell them?  

Your children are adults able to understand and process the truth. I would definitely tell them. Allowing them to continue on in ignorance drawing conclusions that you are "crazy" is extremely unfair to not only you but them. They are basing their opinions and views on no truth, trying to come up with answers as to what could possibly be going on.

I'm so sorry you find yourself here. My heart aches for you. But allowing this to drive a wedge between you and your children is beyond terrible. Precious time, experiences and connection are being lost with every day that goes by. You won't get those days back. I would stem the tide of loss now before another day with my children escaped from my life.

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » May 7, 2017 12:05 pm

Lyonene
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wasn't referring to you Lyonene in my comments and I apologize for the confusion

No worries, Sean, thank you.

may as ask how you know about this stuff? Because when I came across forced fem I had to read it over and over to even grasp it!

Duped, it's a very long story. The shortest version I can give you is - I reside in a liberal west coast state. My state has gone round the bend with this gender bs. Public bathroom laws, title ix, indoctrination in public schools, dressing rooms in stores, locker rooms in excercise facilities, etc. Women and children here have had to deal numerous incidences both criminal and threatening.

We have here in my state a man in prison convicted of multiple murders of women right now claiming that he is innocent because he is now not the man that committed these murders due to becoming a MtT.
http://crimefeed.com/2016/10/douglas-didnt-stop-donna-stopped-it-the-trial-of-donna-perry-asks-an-unusual-question-can-gender-reassignment-surgery-really-stop-a-serial-killer-from-hunting/ We also have convicted rapists acting as very vocal trans activists. http://notcisjustwoman.tumblr.com/post/97514127434/jonathan-adrian-wolf-rapes-deaf-woman-changes
In Olympia a MtT was harrassing a girls swim team. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227562/Colleen-Francis-Outrage-transgendered-woman-permitted-use-college-womens-locker-room-exposing-himself.html Their answer to this was to violate the girl's title ix rights and move them to a locker room the size of a bathroom. "Colleen Francis" was quick to pull down all his online sexual activity when this went public, but not quick enough. https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/olympia-wa-school-officials-state-gender-identity-provision-overrides-title-ix-equality-for-girls-swim-teams/

You get the idea.

If people understood what was going on, really going on, the popularity supporting this trend would come to an en

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 6, 2017 10:40 am

Lyonene
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Stonehouse,

I know what you mean, the kids seem to complicate things quite a bit. I feel like I'm fighting myself in ways now. There's the emotional 'do anything for family' side of me that says - this is going to hurt my son. He's just a little guy. Don't allow something harmful to happen in his life, just cover it up!

And the logical side of me that says - better for this baby to be from a broken home than perpetually living in one. What kind of role model can this man possibly be? He's screwed up everything so badly, what will he screw up in this child if I allow continued free rein exposure?

This porn addiction twist makes it less clear, yes, but I'm beginning to ask myself tougher questions. I'm asking myself where honesty, integrity and dignity are. I'm asking myself what kind of person submerges in porn to begin with. I'm looking at superficiality not just as a man, but a human being. I'm starting to look at what it takes for a guy to rip apart people, destroy an innocent child's family and future, all for the sake of getting his dick up.

I'm beginning to see many things.

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » May 5, 2017 6:06 pm

Lyonene
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although I do hope we can keep our exchanges civil and secular.

Was there something not civil or religious in what I said? I'm not seeing nor understanding what prompts this statement. If I'm missing it, please advise, as I would gladly clear up any confusion.

Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » May 5, 2017 2:01 pm

Lyonene
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Duped wrote:

I have a quick question Sean, did you ever go through the trans porn stage? My ex is heavily into it but denies he's gay, although he has looked at gay porn, probably more than I know. But he says it's the feminine aspect that he's attracted to. That said, we had very little good sex and I am feminine! I know he's a crossdresser which is different to you but I suspect he's also gay but deeply in denial. So much trans porn and weird porn where he's instructed to 'pleasure' a transsexual (probably also men), I just think it's a denial thing, if the person looks female it's ok and much of the porn was in that vein, i.e the women calling him gay, which turned him on. I just don't get it. Any insight appreciated.

 
Hi there,

Pardon me, Sean, I don't mean to intrude on your thread, but I have a few answers for Duped.

Duped, your guy sounds autogyn (autogynephilia aka AGP). It's a twisted male fantasy that feminine is linked with sexual. They make a fetish out of feminine clothing, makeup, and what they have twisted in their male mind female to be. To them female means slut, submissive, servicing, always dressed sexy, having sexual power over men, etc. Tired old male sexual stereotypes that real women don't adhere to. Autogyns can and do go the srs route (Jenner is a very visible example of this).

The kind of porn they prefer is trans, forced fem, and sissy hypno. It allows them to indulge in their fetish of picturing themselves as female with the added twist of no responsibility. Forced fem and sissy hypno add to their submissive and servicing fantasy and also do away with the guilt of it by offering "instruction" and "orders".

It typically starts with watching trans porn, escalates to cd porn, forced fem porn, sissy hypno, then progresses to them dressing more, acting out more, and if they were ever straight before this mess - eventually having sex with men as the ultimate end goal for validating what they perceive to be their "female selves". I

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 5, 2017 12:40 pm

Lyonene
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Yesterday was performance day. It was amazing. He should apply to play Hamlet in local theater. His drama is so thick it's tangible.

I was treated to a fest of waterworks, passionate pleas, self hatred, and avowals of how "broken" he's been. This went on for hours. By the end I was just exhausted from listening.

His self esteem is shit and has always been shit. He's never thought of himself as "a man" but always something lesser. He's always felt like a coward, "a pussy" (his words). His father made his life hell. His mother is a blundering idiot. He got molested at first, but was such a lonely rejected child, he began to "enjoy" the attention because it was the only attention he was getting. He found porn at such an early age, it warped his development. At first he stayed away from anything "gay" (ages 9 to 12) his interest was in females. Trans porn at age 12 was just freaky to him "not gay". He has a penis fixation because he has been insecure about his penis since childhood. He always viewed "big cock" as "manly", something he is not and something he physically doesn't have. (I'll chime in here in this tirade of things he said to input that his penis size is completely normal.) He is a compulsive porn user and most often triggered by boredom or stress. His compulsive porn use has cost him jobs verifying the problem nature of it. He's never thought of himself as gay because he retained a real world attraction to women (oogling/public objectifying). His craigslist cruising lasted 1 week and was merely him looking at ads, nothing ever came of it, he was extremely dissatisfied with all he saw. Blah, blah, blah...ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

I sat on the couch listening to this verbal exorcism for as long as I could, then got tired, got up and went to bed, leaving him and his tear-stained bs in the livingroom.

The entire time, all my inner brain dialog was saying to me was, wow, here I am the victim of a huge fraud that has ruined my life and the life of my 2 year

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 5, 2017 10:36 am

Lyonene
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Stonehouse,

It's amazing how it becomes "I'm addicted to porn, and I'm going to stop" when it's out of the closet time. So for years he was just fine leading a gay fantasy double life, but now suddenly it's a problem and he's going to stop? As long as it's a secret gay life, he's great with it, but now that you know about it "it's a problem".

The "it's your fault" thing is ridiculous. It's pathetic to try and pin this on you like that. I'm so sorry.

Is He/She Gay » porn addiction he says » May 4, 2017 10:15 am

Lyonene
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He's saying that because to him, if he would have done that, that would have made him gay.  So since that's his boundary, he figures it's everyone else's, too.  So he'll just tell you he never crossed that line, so that you then think he's not *really* gay.

Dead on, Kel. He's saying it's ALL just a porn thing because nothing was ever acted upon. That seems to be his reassurance to himself, and now me. Somehow, he believes keeping it all in the realm of fantasy and masturbation means not gay.

I flat out asked him - what in the hell do you think it all means?! Didn't it tell you what you needed to know about yourself? You've been getting off to dudes since you were a kid! He says, "I always thought it was just porn. It means nothing. They put big cock in all videos, straight videos, does that mean straight guys want big cock? If not, then why do it? Why have the money shot in all videos? It's what men want to see."

Great post, Kel, thank you so much!

Support » New...Here Goes Nothing! » May 3, 2017 6:15 pm

Lyonene
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not quite sure why I feel I can't tell my family

I'm in the same boat. Feeling like I can tell no one. Not my family, not his family.

I've been tossing it around and I think it boils down to some kind of privacy invasion feeling. It feels like outing him is somehow not my place but his thing to do. Not sure really, still mulling it all over.

Sorry you find yourself here.

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