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Support » Post Removed. » December 31, 2024 3:40 am

Would anyone be able to share the original post with me? Not looking to have it reposted publicly if it was offensive, I just find myself looking for insight into my husband’s tortured mind and I am very curious when a questioning spouse shares openly. Thanks

General Discussion » How is everyone doing? » November 15, 2024 10:10 am

I’ve been so grateful to this group, even though I haven’t posted much. Reading everyone’s experiences has really helped me separate the truth from the noise. I’m still in the thick of it, really because my husband is still in the thick of sorting out his identity and I’d like to give him some time to do so. He still holds a bisexual identity despite many things he has said and shown to the contrary, but he also acknowledges that he is not “done” figuring it all out. Thanks to the wise advice here I am focusing on the things in my life that are my own - career, kids, friends, and stepping back from the merry-go-round while he sorts himself. I am also protecting myself in the more-than-likely event that we split. Clarity is a precious commodity these days, thank you all for sharing yours.

Support » Protecting the kids » September 12, 2024 11:55 am

Hi Gwendolyn, thanks for sharing your experience. It’s  crazy to think about doing this when things are otherwise stable and friendly. I felt like I was the one tearing us apart when I starting putting up boundaries and I was lucky to have a friend remind me that me deciding to separate isn’t tearing us apart, it’s just the acknowlegement of the truth that has already torn us apart.
What did you tell your kids the reason was? I very much want to be honest with them right away but it might not be possible until later and I’m struggling with what we tell them. I’m afraid that they will make up reasons or blame themselves if they don’t know the actual reason. How has this gone for your family?

Eleanor

Support » Sometimes I'm not okay » September 10, 2024 9:18 pm

Hi M-Kate,
I’m with you today. Actually all week. I’m just so sad. My husband doesn’t know what to do with it and it’s making him spiral a bit but I’m trying to not take that on. No matter what happens in the future, the situation right now is heartbreaking. I’ve been taking naps on the days I have time and going to bed right after the kids. I feel a bit like I’m hibernating, wintering. It’s necessary for moving forward I think. I hope.
It’s been almost a year since disclosure, and it’s the first real sad spell that I can remember. I’ve been mostly full of anxiety and confusion until now. I think I’m starting to see that our marriage isn’t going to last, instead of wondering how we’re going to save it. I’m also starting to see that it won’t be the worst of all the possible outcomes.
Reaching across time and space with a hug for you.

Support » Exhaustion » September 6, 2024 7:49 pm

Anon 765 wrote:

I would like to have a few friends in person (or on video) or a support group who have been through the same thing. Last time I checked, there wasn't an Our Path group in my city, but this is a good reminder to check again.

 

Anon, if you are open to a few of us meeting on zoom every so often outside of the official our path groups I’d be interested! I am lucky to have an in person our path support group in my town but I haven’t gone yet, I might try the next meeting in a couple weeks.

Support » What If I made a mistake » August 30, 2024 9:16 pm

I’m so sorry you have so much uncertainty. I can relate. Being forced to be the one to make the decision to leave when they don’t agree is a terrible place to be. I wonder, if you had enough reasons to “blame it on” at the time, all those reasons were also true, right? And in the end, it doesn’t matter why it was bad - if the relationship was bad, you’re better off.

Support » Exhaustion » August 27, 2024 7:13 pm

Yes to the extreme fight or flight and dizziness with every new revelation/conversation. I could also barely eat for the first six months and lost 20 pounds (he didn’t notice, although I had acquaintances commenting so I know it was obvious). Stress and panic do crazy things to our bodies.

Elle makes an excellent point about needing to hear someone else’s reaction. Many of us are exceptionally empathetic/codependent people, and for me that meant that my empathy for his situation kept me disconnected from my own feelings over MY new situation. Being able to tell a couple of close friends - the ones who are no-BS tell it like it is types was the most helpful thing for me. Both of their reactions, separately, were the exact same: “he said WHAT? WTF? And he thinks you’re staying married?! You’re separating, right?!” It helped me see that being angry and upset wasn’t an overreaction like I had been worried it was. They were most concerned that I didn’t seem to be as angry as they were for me. It also helped because I could lay out alllllll of the slow-drip ups and downs at once - as soon as I finished telling the story I could hear it myself - but OF COURSE he’s gay! And OF COURSE it’s better to split, even though it’ll be hell on all of us.
Now, keeping that mindset when we’re together and things start feeling like “normal” is my challenge.

And hell yes, it’s absolutely fucking exhausting.

Support » Protecting the kids » August 27, 2024 6:52 pm

Thank you all for your replies.
Elle and Alex, I like your idea of a deadline. I have talked with my close friends and he has come out (as bisexual) to a couple of his and to his siblings, but the kids need to know the truth, especially if we separate. He has not been ready to tell his parents yet, so he’ll have to do that before we tell the kids.
Blue bear, what you said about the kids getting a whole parent 50% of the time is better than a broken parent 100% of the time really resonates with me. It seems like it will get worse before it gets better, but I can imagine a more calm future where I don’t feel anxious any time he’s home and I don’t have to manage our lives around his mood.
I was just reading a post on the Reddit forum about how unreal this new reality feels. I think that’s part of why I have such a hard time feeling like separating is the right thing to do. When we’re apart, or when I look objectively at what he’s said, I feel like it’s obvious - he’s gay and this won’t work long-term. But when we’re together, doing family life, things can almost start to feel normal again, and I find myself feeling crazy for thinking about throwing it all away. It feels unreal. Or it feels like it’s all in my head, since he denies half of it now and maintains he is bi and wants to stay married. A mindfuck indeed.

Support » Protecting the kids » August 17, 2024 12:31 pm

Thanks everyone for your replies. I’ve come a long way emotionally since my first post in January. I see clearly that I want a husband who wants me - all of me. He has recently started actually trying to understand my feelings and has given a sincere apology - for not being honest from the start, for putting me through this now, and for not being able to give me that. He does sincerely love me, I believe that, and wants desperately to keep our family together. I love him too, but I don’t want an open marriage and I don’t think a lifetime of celibacy is a realistic expectation for two healthy people in their 40s.
I’ve been feeling selfish for putting my own needs above the need of my kids to have one household with 2 parents, especially if we can be kind and honest with each other. I’ve been discounting what the effect of this process will be on our relationship. You both describe how it started breaking down and became impossible to stay together happily. It seems obvious now - we won’t be able to go “back to normal” where he’s pretending to be straight and I’m clueless and assuming our problems are due to other factors. I’ve been so hurt by his rejection of me and I see his “biromantic bisexual”identity (bi sexual as long as it doesn’t involve vaginas…but I digress) as a confusing place along the path to him fully acknowledging that he is gay. I have been thinking that I could stay in it until he “gets there” but my therapist is helping me realize that as long as he thinks he can keep our marriage intact and knows that being gay would destroy it, this will never happen. In one sense the way in which I can help him the most along his path is to separate. Codependent? Maybe. I honestly care about him and want him to be happy. I’m learning to prioritize my own happiness too, and this clearly isn’t it.
I’m so grateful to you both for posting. Reading through stories that are so different from mine have had me questioning if it

Support » Protecting the kids » August 11, 2024 2:14 pm

A lot has changed in my perception of him I think. We agreed in January to not open our marriage, and he hasn’t brought it up again since, although he continues to say he wants to leave the conversation open. I still have found no evidence of cheating or lies around this. I know he uses gay porn and I’ve been okay with that. I added the boundary of no chat sites and no paying for direct content (like onlyfans).
The biggest real change has been that he’s no longer interested in having sex as part of our marriage. It’s always been sparse and not great but now he’s openly said he doesn’t even want to try anymore. Based on all of our conversations, I’m pretty confident he’s gay but he wants to stay married because he doesn’t identify at all with gay culture, isn’t open to the idea of a long-term gay relationship, and believes his love for me and our nice family life is enough to sustain us. I think these things are likely to change as he undoes a lot of his internalized homophobia. We are sleeping apart, and I am keeping a fair amount of emotional distance, although he would like to go back to snuggling on the couch watching movies together. We are in couples counseling and she has encouraged me to start expressing my anger, which I am…slowly.
I’m starting to see that separation/divorce may be inevitable, but it kills me to think about doing this to our kids.

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