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General Discussion » Counselling/therapy needs of straight partners » November 10, 2021 12:12 pm

Kel
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Right now I'm just trying to find out a bit more about what he's seeking. If he really is a counselor and is just looking to better serve his clients who are straight partners, that's a good thing. We do have information for professionals on our website though, which I've steered him toward.

OurPath never allows people to come do research directly with our constituents. Most people who come to us looking for cooperation are individuals involved in post graduate studies, who have complete documentation on the project, complete with a survey we can review. In those cases, we offer that opportunity up in our electronic spaces so that people can freely interact as they desire - directly with the individual doing the research. We ask to be cited in the research and that it be made available to us afterward.

There have been plenty of opportunities OurPath has turned down, too. We want more scholarly research on our demographic. We have also have stories to tell. But things need to be done the right way - the purpose is important. OurPath is here for support. If we feel that an opportunity is legitimate after vetting it, and it adds value to the straight community, then we can move forward. If not, then it's dead in the water. Straight Partners aren't here for other people's entertainment.

We will never let people who want to study us into the room. We will offer our constituents the key to the room where the vetted researcher is sitting and waiting for them. And will will give our constituents plenty of information ahead of time so they know what's in the room - so they can decide if they're interested.

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General Discussion » Counselling/therapy needs of straight partners » November 9, 2021 2:22 pm

Kel
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Hi everyone,

This individual has followed your advice and has just contacted the organization so we can vet him and figure out how we should move forward.

Thanks for being diligent -

Kel

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » October 10, 2021 12:38 am

Kel
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The purpose of the section for LGBT Partners is to educate them how to come out to us while doing the least amount of damage to us. The entire guide is geared toward helping straight partners in the end.

What we found when we did some looking around is that there were guides for LGBT+ people to come out to their employers, their parents, their children, their friends. But zero about how to come out to your spouse/partner. Who better to write that than us?

General Discussion » Change is hard – The new OurPath name and other things » September 17, 2021 4:02 pm

Kel
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MJM017 wrote:

Am assuming SSN/OurPath receives close to 50% of their funding from not for profit foundations.

Just to be clear, SSN/OurPath receives 100% of its funding from individual donors. While some of the donations come in from names we recognize within the straights community, we don't know anything about most donors unless they offer that information up. Some of the older ladies who still send checks into the P.O. Box occasionally write nice little notes telling us that we helped them back in the day, and they're paying it forward. Most people donate online, and we have only as much information as they share with us. We do receive anonymous donations, and some in other people's honor. We've even had gay partners give because they're thankful for the help we gave their straight partners.

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » September 16, 2021 5:05 pm

Kel
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I guess I lied - I'm still answering questions.

We've had several potential grant makers and corporate donors come back and tell us that they get our mission, and they'd like to help. But... they can't have a company with the word "straight" in their name listed on their roster of nonprofits they donate to. And do you know why? Because a few years back when white supremacists started holding straight pride marches, they effed it all up for us. And no, we can't "educate" corporations about it. What they're worried about is other non-educated individuals seeing them in a bad light because they're helping an organization with the word straight in their name.

This is the same place, and we do the same thing as we've always done. This is help. And it won't matter what we name ourselves - people in need will find us. Because they're not searching for the words straight spouse. I can see exactly what search terms they're using because we have Google Analytics. And you know what they're using?
"Is my husband gay?"
"I think my wife is a lesbian."
"My husband is looking at gay porn."
"Do I open my marriage with my bi-sexual partner?"

And those roads will still all lead back to us. That's just how Google works. It takes a bit of time though, of course. Even if people searched the words straight spouse, they'll wind up on our old site, which points to our new site. They are desperate for help. We could name ourselves "Flying Monkeys" and they'd still find us.

We are not selling out, or selling our souls. We are not watering down the message. We have no intention of tailoring our stories. None of that is what's happening.

We have no guarantee that any of this will result in growth. But I had no guarantee that leaving my ex would mean that I'd find love again, either. I just knew that what I was doing wasn't going to work long-term. So I held my nose and I jumped. And I found love again. I shudder to think what my life would be like today if I'd let that fear hold me

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » September 16, 2021 2:55 pm

Kel
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Guys,

I donated 1,500 hours last year to SSN. While having a full time job, four kids, a home, pets, etc. I do this for no.other.reason other than desperately wanting to help straight partners get support and heal. Many of you have known me for years - I was here long before I started doing work for SSN. I have thick skin, but I'm a person - one who is trying their hardest and working day and night to try to ensure the future of this organization. it's difficult to hear all this criticism from my own tribe.

We have big dreams for this organization. We want to start attending LGBT+ conferences and educating them on what Straight Partners go through. We want to conduct research about Straight Partners that would be potentially peer-reviewed by a prestigious organization - like the American Psychological Association. This would bring us recognition that we could then parlay into creating a training program for counselors. Interested counselors could then become accredited through us, and we would finally be able to begin recommending trained counselors to those of us seeking them. We want to begin holding our own seminars and healing workshops. If we keep on with the level of donations we've been receiving, we can simply keep the status quo. To bring awareness at the level we really want to, it's likely going to take corporate donors and grants. And you know what corporate donors and grant makers don't want to be associated with these days? The word "straight". And it doesn't matter how we feel about that. It is what it is. We either just stick it out here being small potatoes, or we make some changes so we can grow. It's really that simple.

We're not embarrassed to be straight. We encourage you to call yourself whatever you prefer - straight spouse, straight partner, partner of a trans person, trans widow, cis spouse, whatever. Us changing our organization's name doesn't change your identity. We are still who we've always been, and we offer more suppo

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » September 15, 2021 11:46 am

Kel
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lily wrote:

"When the Straight Spouse Network launched in 1991, their focus was on supporting the straight spouses of people who came out as gay, lesbian, or bi-sexual. With the changing and expanding landscape of Mixed Orientation Relationships that includes Partners of Trans People, and more people remaining in their Mixed Orientation Relationships, they have adopted the new name OurPath to reflect inclusivity."

First sentence,  Yes, exactly, that describes my understanding of the focus that was the inception of this forum.

Second sentence - rug puller.

Lily - SSN/OurPath has always served partners of trans people. They are absolutely straight partners in our eyes. They were a tiny minority all these years. But the social landscape is changing, and coming out as Trans is more accepted now. So more people are doing it. Leaving more straight partners in their wake.

There is a misunderstanding that partners of trans people can get help through LGBTQ organizations. Only if you consider "help" being told that their trans partner is the same person, and that they should stay with their Trans Partner if they truly loved them. Those places offer no outlet for any emotions beyond happiness and support for the Trans partner. There is no other group like OurPath - where the straight partner is offered a safe place to vent their complex emotions - good and bad. So the first part of the second sentence ("With the changing and expanding landscape of Mixed Orientation Relationships that include Partners of Trans People") is no different than it's ever been. This is who've we've always been. We're just articulating it more clearly now so that Partners of Trans People know they are welcome here among us. The "changing landscape" is that we have more Partners of Trans People coming to us now than ever before. They are Straight Partners. They are welcome here, and OurPath wants them to know it.

SSN has never prescribed what decisions Straight Partners shou

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » September 9, 2021 9:29 pm

Kel
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We’re not implying that Partners of Trans People aren’t also Straight Partners. If that’s the term you feel best represents you, then use that term. We were told by many Partners of Trans People that they didn’t feel the term Straight Partner resonated with them, or accurately represented them. They have many names for themselves - Cis Spouses, Trans Widows, Non-Trans Partners, Partners of Trans People, etc. After much discussion, we decided to use the term Partners of Trans People. We wanted to make everyone feel welcome. It is not our intention to offend or tell anyone that they’re not a Straight Partner, or prescribe to them how they need to identify themselves.

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » August 12, 2021 2:47 pm

Kel
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In cases where the straight partner or their children are in danger, SSN has always advocated for leaving the situation. Straight partners and partners of trans people are the experts only in their own situations. The answer for what to do and how/when to do it is something we believe is inherently inside each of us. With encouragement and compassion, we hope to help empower straights to make the decisions that are best for them, and to move onto healthy healing.

General Discussion » Amazing changes coming to SSN » August 12, 2021 10:26 am

Kel
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OutofHisCloset wrote:

 If there are other "trans widows" on this site who would prefer not to lend legitimacy to SSN's  "neutral" position on trans issues...

SSN has always taken a neutral position on what straight partners believe and the decisions they make for themselves. We have always encouraged them to do what works best for them and their family. We don't take a position on whether others should stay with or leave their partners, or give a precise definition of the word gay. When the organization prescribes viewpoints, we narrow the field of straights we can serve. It delegitimizes the organization to anyone who doesn't subscribe to those same beliefs and viewpoints. The array of experiences, beliefs and convictions within the straight partner community is vast. We want to support the individual, no matter their viewpoints and choices about their own relationship.

Our new website has many resources and recommended links on it - including Trans Widow Voices. These resources run the gamut on viewpoint and purpose. We respect the varying viewpoints and believe they are helpful resources. We are not opposed to viewpoints across the spectrum being expressed. We think that's valuable. We empower straight partners, and trust them to make the decisions that are best for them and their families.

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