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Support » Does anyone ever have a happy ending? » October 7, 2017 3:54 pm

Judy
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brooksey,

It's never someone's sexual preference that is so disturbing. It's when they hide it and destroy others like this that is. We took them at their word when they married us. The trouble is they lied. Who would love a liar? That's not a trait any of us would opt for. Honesty and integrity are wonderful traits. He doesn't possess either. Let him go because you love YOU and your dogs.  You will survive this and come out so much better off. YOU DESERVE IT. 

Support » Does anyone ever have a happy ending? » October 7, 2017 3:32 pm

Judy
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brooksey,

I'm going to approach this from a  different angle than all the rest. I have been through exactly what you have but I was married to the Gay man for 47 years so I am suffering a substantial loss of life.  I am 67 years old. I am now 18 months past me throwing him out and 2 days ago my divorce was final. I don't love him anymore because he has no integrity and even less decency. That's not someone I would ever love. Let's insert some reality here. I rescue dogs as well and I cannot ever imagine saying I love them and then considering ending my life leaving them behind to fend for themselves all over again  because I am this miserable (and I am just like YOU are-same exact place). I made a promise to care for them and I'm going to KEEP IT. They only have me and I only have them. I'm not going to come out of being in a marriage where I despise him for not keeping his promises to me and then turn around and break the promise I made to my dogs. DO NOT get any more dogs until you resolve some of this sadness and rise up to move on ahead (and you will). I was horrified at that suggestion (but then again, she's playing some sort of therapist here instead of comforting those who stop by here in shock and I don't care for her anyway). Dogs, especially those who need rescuing, don't need another temporary commitment.  What I am saying here is think of your dogs and making loving them and receiving the love you obviously receive from them, your focus. My three dogs have saved my life and bridged this horror. We are a surviving family and the best.  I owe them everything and you can bet I'm not going to end my life because of this man and his well hidden sexual preference that isn't me. I've had 3 therapists for the last 18 months - with all addressing difference aspects of this and giving me considerably better direction as a team than just one therapist's opinion. ALL have CREDENTIALS - not anonymous posters posting on any website. You say you love your GID hus

Support » I don't know how to move on... » August 29, 2017 5:24 am

Judy
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Jenn,

Get through one day. Don't look down the road. You're still building the road and it's going to change greatly in the near future. You can have contact with him about the kids. Treat it like anyone else you speak to about the kids (i.e. teachers, doctors, nurses-those who care for them).  It's so easy to be overwhelmed in this. Live in day tight compartments. One day at a time. Just make sure you are on the path to seeing better days. 

You've done the right thing for you and the kids. Good for you. 

Judy

Support » I don't know how to move on... » August 29, 2017 5:21 am

Judy
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NO Kel. I don't think "most of us wanted to remain friends with our spouses after they did this to us."

That's ABSURD. Nobody wanted to offer a friendship to someone that lied and destroyed our marriages. Trust is valued in every friendship, not just marriage.

You can't make a friend out of someone who has so little regard for the marriage you are in with them. By the same token, your husband isn't a friend. He's a husband and considerably higher and more valuable on the relationship scale. Not many friends have sex with each other but spouses do. 

 

General Discussion » Standing by/with my partner » August 29, 2017 4:53 am

Judy
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CajunBelle - don't leave. I agree with all of the advice and commenting you did to Ellexoh. I never saw you be anything but kind and offering very good advice. This situation hurts. It's so easy to be so full of emotion when visiting this website that things get misinterpreted easily. Or, it might not be what the person wants to hear because they are clinging to hope the marriage will survive. It's very hard to tell them it's not going to happen. We are all living proof of it. We need a broad range of advice givers here. I hope you'll stay. 
Judy

General Discussion » Standing by/with my partner » August 29, 2017 4:49 am

Judy
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I think we need to spread out the power and wealth of experience with more posters. It's gotten down to a handful of regulars that are too busy patting each other on the back to notice there are new people that are so obviously at the beginning stages of this kind of event and they aren't here to experience a mutual admiration society.  I'm bringing this up because it's now everywhere and after being gone for a few months, I can see it's a big prob. 

Let's get back to the enormous amount of valuable information and kick the ego to the curb.



 

General Discussion » Standing by/with my partner » August 29, 2017 4:36 am

Judy
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Rob,

Kel is not any sort of "mama bear" here. That made me really cringe. There is nobody on this board more valuable than any one of us and you don't need to protect or stand up for her. The adminstrator here isn't Kel. 

Perhaps it's the size of her posts or the frequency she posts that have you confused. She is simply more visible. I think you're dangerously close to diminishing the value of all of us that have lived this horror when you state such things.

This board will drop considerably in value when we allow ourselves to worship a few frequent long time posters. 

Judy

 

General Discussion » Standing by/with my partner » August 29, 2017 4:30 am

Judy
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Ellexoh,

Your husband is already out of your marriage. He's simply manipulating you to limit what he imagines will be a really terrible breakup of a long term marriage with a nasty divorce. I tried to endure it for 46 years and it ended up the same. Horrendous pain. Mine wanted me to look the other way while he dated and had sex with all kinds of women and then men for years. I was his meal ticket, gardener, nanny and the woman who took care of him when he was very ill.  I finally threw him out. His bed ended up on the front lawn of my million dollar home in March of 2016 put there by me experiencing an adrenalin rush. I added his crapped up Jockey shorts from his Gay hookups on Craig's list. The neighbors all saw it. My divorce (after almost 50 years of being with him) will be final in late Dec of this year. Don't wait. Take control of your own future and life. This isn't something you can work on and alter.  According to what I researched decades ago and then got confirmation of from therapists, there is NO CHANCE of having it work. Virtually none. You have already lost 32 years. Don't waist anymore of your life. One of the things I choke on daily in fits of anger is why someone like me would wait all these years when I knew what he was. He wasn't a husband to me on ANY level. He was completely detached. I was the wrong gender for him to BE interested. He cheated with women first and I thought he was BI but then he finally came out as Gay. That's typical. It's a transitional attempt to switch from their wife to the gender they are actually interested in. 

All of us can see what your situation is. We've lived it. We don't come from a place of harsh opinions or judgment. We simply want to spare you the extended heartache. You'll end up at the same place. I'm sorry you have spent 32 years with him. I know exactly how you feel only I waited even longer. Don't follow my example. Throw him out and get on with your valuable life. The ONLY power you have left is to t

General Discussion » Ways to get her to get out of the closet » July 3, 2017 5:35 am

Judy
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Steddiecat- 

I recognize the phase of this your'e in. The off the charts anger consumed me and even after I threw my Gay lying (malignant narrcissist) husband out the front door a year and a half ago, I can still conjure up that same anger on a moment's notice. What these types do is real dirty and clearly brutal. It's easy to hate them all for it. They have no integrity. I fumed every single night-therapy or not. 

All of that anger threw me into severe panic attacks a couple of months ago. It seemed I had no where to put it. After all, it seemed mine got away with taking almost 50 years of my life away on a lie. I couldn't believe he got away with it and even took my kids with him because he convinced them he's not "really" Gay but I am crazy for imagining he is. His Gay lover called me to tell me they had a 16 year affair and I was in their way. 

The reality was that due to all this anger, I was now in the emergency room with a pulse that went from 88 to 157 and then dropping to 57 beats all within a minute at age 66. My heart was pounding so hard it moved my entire upper torso. I almost blacked out completely. I finally realized that he was getting away with far too much if he could do this to me. The price was too high and it meant he was taking even more time from me. I came home from the hospital realizing if I let go of the anger, he would have failed and lost his control over me and my life. 50 years is enough and I moved on. Finally. Don't let the anger do this to you. They've stolen enough from us. Just get away as fast as you can. 

Big hug to you. I understand completely

Support » Manage same sex desire and not cheat » July 3, 2017 5:19 am

Judy
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The wild excuses some of these men have when caught is just laughable. 

F'inglies - He didn't have time to "explore" because you married young? OMG. Ridiculous!  Straight males don't "explore" sex with other males. One thing they all seem to have in common when caught. They come back with some of the most ridiculous excuses for not considering their straight spouse. 

Mine never said that. He just called me crazy when I caught him. At 66 he had decades of spinning up outrageous excuses. He lies like I breathe and he does it very well.

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