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Support » I find myself here » January 10, 2025 3:30 am |
Kmack, the first couple of months after my GXH came out, I cycled through every emotion known to humankind. It's a very complicated grief, to find out your partner is different than the person you married. The early days are hard, hard, hard. It gets better eventually, really. Also please remember that it's not your fault. If therapy is an option for you, I highly recommend it. My therapist has been an incredible blessing.
Support » I find myself here » January 8, 2025 10:23 pm |
When my GXH came out, he said he was Bi and wanted to date men. And he also said he was still attracted to me. And he also said he hadn't cheated on me. It took me a couple of days to get my bearings and then it was very clear to me that divorce was the only path forward for me. Fast forward to today, a little more than a year later, and I'm so, so glad I didn't attempt a MOM, not even for a little while. Immediately after he came out, a guy who had been his "friend" before he was out was suddenly his Boyfriend. Yeah. Now I can put puzzle pieces together and see that in fact, prior to coming out to me, he had built a whole secret life in advance of telling me, and was blaming me for the distance in our marriage. Not the kind of partner ANYONE should have.
Seems to me that a consistent element in many of our stories is that after a little time elapses post-disclosure, we can see that there were secrets kept, lies told, gaslighting going on.
I'm raising my glass in a toast to your Band-Aid ripping! Please put yourself first, and keep your eyes open. I was surprised at how much was going on once I understood what I was looking at.
Support » I find myself here » January 7, 2025 5:51 pm |
Hello Kmack - you're in good company here. I'm sorry you're going through this miserable experience.
The emotional rollercoaster was definitely part of my experience - I'm a little more than a year post-disclosure. Glad to hear you have people to support you. Guilt over not being "supportive" is an interesting one - we're primed to cheer for people who come out and are their authentic selves, so it might not feel so great (or natural) to put yourself first. LGBT people have a right to live their authentic lives, and we have a right to not be deceived and be sucked into living with their deception.
Please take good care of yourself. I benefitted not only from emotional support (including therapy) but also from doing my best to eat good food, move my body, get some sunlight, and do everything I could to wind down in the evening and sleep.
Sending you hugs from the forum! What you're going through is a rough, rough time. Hang in there!
Support » Separating, divorce and dating » December 20, 2024 12:38 am |
Jupiter! Hurray for the plan switching! There are going to be events (like marriages) where contact with the Ex might be unavoidable - and yet there are so many other things where we can center ourselves and our comfort and well-being. I'm still in the process of learning this myself. Kudos to you!
Support » Struggling to Decide and How to Feel » December 20, 2024 12:34 am |
blankcanvas,
I'd like to address your last line, that it's "nice to not feel like the bad guy in all this..."
So many of us are supportive of friends and family members who are LGBT, so it's not uncommon for us straight spouses to feel "rainbow washed" when it comes to our partners coming out of their closet, and feel like we need to support them for being their true selves (and refrain from the honest assessment of the damage they've done to our psyche). Sometimes that support of them at the expense of us being in touch with our own feelings, our own well being, and our own healthy self-interest. Hopefully you can continue to consider what YOU want, and what YOU deserve in a partner.
TBH, I'm envious that you are seeing her non-straight self now. I was married for 23 years before I knew he was gay. I'm hoping to find a real partner some day - and I wonder what it might have been like to have spent my younger years with someone who was into me, and someone whose repression and secrets weren't expressed in anxiety and manipulation.
Support » Struggling to Decide and How to Feel » December 17, 2024 7:09 pm |
Hi blankcanvas - I'm really sorry for everything you're going through. It's confusing and heartwrenching.
I'm with Blackie - curious about the part in your post where she said that if you wanted to make things work, she would break it off with the person she's with. Sounds like she wants to make YOU responsible for whether you're together or not, when it's actually HER looking elsewhere that has your relationship unravelling. As far as divorce goes - I think there are more than a few people on this forum who are glad to be divorced instead of married to someone who'd rather be with a whole different gender, whose attention is directed outside the marriage while we're at home wondering what we could do to improve the relationship. In my case, the GXH pulled out all the stops to blame distance and conflict on me. Divorce is a fresh start.
Support » Separating, divorce and dating » December 17, 2024 5:26 pm |
Not so much PTSD; this Christmas feels really different. Looking back to last year, I see that I spent the first few months in a denial/bargaining phase. When he came out, he'd pitched to me this concept of New Family, where we'd still be in each other's lives, he'd still consider my best interests, we'd be great friends. And because I had nothing else to hang onto, I totally bought it. Then he decamped to Boyfriend's house as soon as the kids were back in school. I have to have a lot of compassion for Last Year's Me - she was doing her best, poor lady. It took a long time to fully absorb how much he'd lied, cheated, and gaslit me.
This year, I'm mostly grateful that my kids are home for the holidays, and Home means with me. Grateful, too, that even though they're willing to spend time with him, they are equally mystified by the second adolescence.
Support » Separating, divorce and dating » December 13, 2024 4:01 pm |
I can relate to the "he's happy; I feel like I've been run over by a truck". My GXH had a whole secret life that he'd been building for at least a year before he came out to me. As soon as we told our college-aged kids (exactly a year ago, right before Christmas), he was rarely home, since (I found out later) he already had a boyfriend. The night he came out to me was a huge relief for him that let him really get the party started, and for me it was complete devastation.
In my divorce, I think it helped a lot that he was in a hurry - I think I got a better deal because of it, and it was better for my psyche to not have divorce proceedings drag on and on.
I'm so sorry to hear about the house - there's so much wrapped up in the family home. I hope that feeling of being better off without him starts to settle in for you soon.
Support » Nothings wrong » December 12, 2024 9:58 pm |
We started couples counseling because we'd had some parenting issues come up with our teenage son. In working on our parenting, it soon became clear to our therapist - and I already knew - that we had couples issues as well. He did, in fact, act like the marriage was fine, said we never fought, that everything was great. Well. The reason we never fought was that any time I brought up an issue that was important to me, he'd roll his eyes and sigh, then turn things around and launch a counterattack. Lesson for me was that if I brought something to him, he'd flip it around and criticize me, so I learned to keep things to myself.
In therapy, he presented a false ideal self. He'd tell the therapist that he was always open to hearing how I felt, and absolutely he could focus on what I needed in our relationship, etc - all of which was complete garbage. Whether he was just trying to say what he thought the therapist wanted to know, or he was intentionally manipulating the situation, I'll never know. It took me a long time to really see the discrepancy and call him out on misrepresenting himself in sessions.
Outside of therapy, in which he was this perfect mate, he blamed me for everything.
Apologies if I'm overstepping, but IMO it's useful to think about whether your husband has any tendencies toward narcissism, as people with narcissistic traits lack the self reflection that makes therapy work. If I had my situation to do over, I would have started with an individual therapist - I think it would have helped me cut through his BS faster.
Trust your gut. My inner voice has gotten a lot louder since I'm no longer living with someone who's gaslighting me.
Is He/She Gay » Any data on this? » December 11, 2024 6:52 pm |
Looking,
I'm assuming you're here and asking about statistics because you suspect your spouse is gay, and you're trying to figure that out, and hoping for some kind of objective, factual assistance in a situation that is completely confusing.
I'm recently divorced from my GXH - it took a year from the time he came out until the day our divorce was final, just a month ago. I couldn't see so clearly at the time, but looking back now I realize that there were elements of our marriage that were off, but since it never occurred to me that he was gay, I wasn't able to interpret those things accurately. I couldn't see it since I was in the middle of it still.
Really common to the straight spouse experience is having our gay spouses gaslight us - sometimes for years, or for the duration of the whole marriage. Gaslighting not only prevents us from finding out the truth about our partner, but gaslighting over time also erodes our ability to trust our own gut.
Sometimes a straight spouse can determine that their marriage isn't good enough for them to stay, and only after the divorce do they discover that their ex was gay. If your marriage is bad for you, maybe it doesn't matter if they're gay?
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