lily wrote:

....Interesting that the word support brings this site up in the search engines - that I think indicates the person who now owns this site is interested in offering therapy.  Whether that is specific to trans issues I have no idea and not sure why you think so?

 

I'm not trans, I'm not gay or bisexual but my interest in the subject of those who have been hurt by an ideology built on 'feelings' has let me to believe trans ideology can only further its path if it embeds itself into a system or belief that is accepted by society and hides in plain sight (with the help of rich entrepreneurs, corporations and universities)

I don't think just one* person bought/took over The Straightspouse Network. I think
money, agenda and influence did. Part of the "about us" blurb says Ourpath wants to "build bridges with organisations that promote lgbt rights but lgb rights have been, gone, succeeded so I think the tq+ is using lgb 
to conceal the harms it does to children and young adults. (edit) and to further legitimise the adult trans experience (I call it delusion. Nobody can change their sex, no matter how many times you say the word "gender"

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Last edited by Ellexoh_nz (April 25, 2026 3:25 pm)

Elle,

    For a brief bit of time about six years ago I was involved with talks with Kel about being more involved with the SSN.  One reason I decided not to do that was that I couldn't go along with the SSN's position on trans issues, which at the time they treated as if they were the same as gay/straight/bi issues, although in my experience, as the now-ex-wife of a man who declared at age 58 after 32 years of marriage that he was "a woman in a man's body" and an academic who specialized in women's and gender studies (I was the Director of the program at my university) I knew trans issues to be distinctly different.  For the main example, trans activists are actively engaged in tearing down the notion of biological sex, while lgb people's sexuality depends on it.  After all, you can't be same sex attracted if there's no such thing as biological sex (nor can you be opposite sex attracted, either).  But if you believe yourself to be trans, biological sex is an impediment to your being able to fully occupy your desired state of "woman" or "man."  If woman is defined as "adult human female" then a transwoman, who remains biologically male, can never be a woman.  

Trans activists have been moving the goalposts for as long as I've been studying transgenderism (now over a dozen years).  On the biological front, first it was "a woman in a man's body," with appeals to "male" and "female" brains (not a thing, say researchers).  Then it was "cross-sex hormones turn you into the opposite sex" (a biological impossibility).  Now it's "biological sex isn't about chromosomes, but a combination of physical factors": biologists, however, define one's biological sex as the gametes one produces for reproduction (sperm or ova), which is not alterable.  

You are absolutely right that trans-activists deliberately sought to graft their movement onto LGB rights, and to advance their agenda by stealth methods.  I just recently re-read the plan to do this (which I think was re-posted by Sarah Mittmeier on her Substack).

My memory of what the SSN said when they became OurPath is that it was done for funding purposes, because the word "straight" had become a negative when applying for grants, which rather proves your point, Elle, about the general influence of moneyed interests.

As for the number of posters here, I also recall that when I was talking with Kel about becoming more active, I was told that more and more folks were being directed to the OurPath on Facebook, where there is both a public page and a private chat area for which you must be approved.  I suspect many new people end up there, and the activity there is higher.  I myself prefer not to give Mark Zuckerberg my data, so I don't use Facebook. 


   

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (Yesterday 7:38 am)

Yes, it's true!  Women can have penises!   And if you're a lesbian and don't want to have sex with a transwoman who retains a penis (as 90+% do), then you're told that you have a "genital fetish."  Young lesbians are being pressured to have sex with men calling themselves women.  
 
Meanwhile, the only people who are allowed to name their women parts the names of women's parts are transwomen, whose surgically constructed facsimile of a v-gina gets to be callled a v-gina, while women are told they must not call their v-gina a v-gina but a "front hole," so as not to offend transmen for whom being told they have a v-gina is triggering to their dysphoria.  Humpty Dumpty's "when I use a word it means just what i choose it to mean"!  We're all living in Wonderland now!