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I have avoided posting on forums, as I have always preferred looking at someone face-to-face. I am in an extreme valley though and am in desperate need of connection/community/support/understanding.
I grew up in a fairly conservative Christian home as did my wife--I will call her C. We started dating in high school and were married before we even graduated college. We were the poster relationship for all our friends. Our relationship was not perfect but it was wonderful and deeply connecting/vulnerable. I could share anything with her and vice versa. Fast forward 2 children and 18 years later, she caught me completely off guard by saying she was bi-sexual. She assured me our relationship wouldn't change but within 2 months, she came out fully as a lesbian and then a few months after that she said that she "...could not stay married to a man any longer. You have done nothing wrong...I just need to be true to myself and that means I can't be married to you." Those words still sting, and they have replayed in my mind too often over the past year.
What I thought was the worst though was only the beginning. Instead and finding support and community during this traumatic time, I instead found distance and apathy. My own mother told me she couldn't be present with me in my pain because it was too much for her to bear to see her son like this. I have been disinvited to family events (...you are welcome, but if your whole family comes--me, children, and C--then you are not welcome), not invited to friend functions with assumptions of me feeling like a 5th wheel, and generally avoided as people didn't know what to say and thus it was easier to not say anything.
I have reached out to numerous people, organizations, etc. but have found little support and definitely nobody willing to stand with me in my pain more than a few moments. Ironically, C has found lots of community within her new LGBTQ circles with new friends and connections readily available at any moment it seems like.
Since this is my first time posting on here, I'm not sure how to proceed. I would love to connect with people with like experiences but not even sure how to start and or even if sharing my location is allowed. Thanks for any ideas/help.
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This is so tough! I have sent you a DM, please reply if you want to connect via a video call. Where are you based? We're in Southern Hemisphere so face-to-face is unlikely, but my husband and I would be happy to catch up over Zoom and I know a couple of couples in the US that you might be able to reach out. This experience really is quite isolating, particularly in the first couple of years. The family members might eventually come around, but it's tough.
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Welcome to our forum KG...yeah that sucks, she sucks, the whole "tell me I'm brave everybody,
I'm living my authentic self" sucks. Your mother's reaction? Harsh!
So you've done the right thing finding us... because straightspouse/lgb
pain is unlike heterosexual pain, doesn't get talked about openly in
conversations with friends so we tend to keep it inside ourselves.
Every straightspouse will tell you... don't do that. Besides us you'll have to find
somebody to confide in, someone you know you can trust and who will listen.
There are men here who can give you the male perspective
of this very crushingly unfair Mindfuck. Again... welcome 🤗
Elle (f)..38 years with my (m) partner. Now separated
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Hello KG,
Welcome to our forum - you're in good company here.
I'm so sorry for what you're experiencing. That really adds to the pain, not having the support of the people around you, and it's crazy making to watch your newly out spouse be surrounded by her new community. Our situation is unique, for sure, and I do think a lot of people don't quite know how to respond.
As far as support - feel free to post here any time! Might take a few days to get a response, but we're a friendly & supportive bunch. Our stories might vary in detail, but the experience is remarkably consistent in the most important ways.
You also can send an email through the OurPath website to request one-on-one support, and a volunteer will call you. That volunteer will likely be able to direct you to additional resources, Facebook groups, Zoom meetings, etc. Also take a look at the resources listed at the beginning of the forum page.
Is therapy an option for you? It's been enormously helpful for me to have a professional working with me through all of the various issues that were (are still) tangled together after my gay ex-husband came out. You might consider notmycloset.com. She's an Australian therapist specializing in straight spouses - she's a straight spouse herself. She offers coaching to international clients. Even one or two sessions will help you process the shock of what you're going through.
I'd like to address what you said about being not invited to friend functions because of the 5th wheel thing. Do you have a close friend or two with whom you'd be comfortable having a short, honest conversation where you can tell them that you value their company and would really appreciate being included? In my own situation, it was definitely weird at first to be the only single person in a group sometimes, but over time it has gotten better.
I wish there were a magic healing wand for straight spouses. We do, however, have each other, and that is no small thing.
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Thank you Alex1984--I would love to connect at some point soon; will send a DM shortly!
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Each of your words are like a drop of cold water I needed. Thank you all.
I live in Nashville, TN, and I thought a big city like this would offer more than it seemingly does. Also, no one here knows of anyone in the Nashville area to connect with face to face by chance, do they?
I am trying to seek out a therapist who has any experience in what I am going through but have had no luck. The suggestion of a therapist in Australia sounds very intriguing. Ideally, I would love to see someone in person, but I don't think I can be too picky at this point.
I did finally confront a friend of mine and it was a great conversation that he admitted that I had been excluded because he assumed I wouldn't want to hang out with other couples. I told him I didn't mind at all and needed community. This was a month ago. I still haven't been included back in to anything, but I still have hope for this.
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I'm so sorry this is happening to you and I (64m) know how you feel. It's been 25 years since I went through this experience and at the time I felt lost. I stumbled on the SSN and drove three hours to attend a meeting with five other people going through the same process. Having that support was a lifeline for me at that time.
This is a unique experience and I suspect those who haven't been through it have a hard time relating. That's in large part why you're getting the reaction from family/friends.
While I'm across the country (Colorado) from you we now have the ability to meet virtually. DM me if you think you'd like to talk.
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Hey man,
Sorry you're going through this. This is the last place you want to have to find friends, but it's better than holding onto all of it. I've been down this road myself, but with a different outcome so far (Check my post history). I may be the closest as I live in Ohio. Unfortunately, my SSA wife and I are hiding out in the closet together, so a face to face with me is not likely. To be clear, I'm not gay in the slightest, but as with many a mixed orientation marriage, we share in this secret. But feel free to message me on here.
If you are a Christian, I totally recommend finding a faith affirming therapist.
Anyway, welcome to the club no one wants to join, but now that you're here, you probably won't want to leave 😂
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KG, just to clarify - you & your wife are divorced? separated? still together but living separate lives?
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Thank you.
Some clarification--C and I are in the process of divorcing. We have two daughters together (13 and 10), and because of them, we are currently still in the same home but in different rooms. We also can't really afford to live separately as C does not have a job right now. I would have chosen to stay married but C (as I mentioned) cannot be married to a man any longer. I expect the divorce to be finalized in the coming months. I don't know how long we will still be in the same house. We generally communicate well together and are trying to provide some stability for our kids.