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March 26, 2025 11:56 am  #1


How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum and have already appreciated some of the insights from the discussions since I've discovered it, but I wanted to post to share my story and ask my most immediate question (apologies in advance for the long post).  For context, I am a heterosexual man who has been married to my wife for 14 years and we have two kids together (ages 6 and 8).  She has recently revealed to me that she is attracted to women, and since then, I have been trying to decide what this means for the future of our marriage.  At this point, she hasn't decided on an exact term for her sexuality (e.g. lesbian, bisexual, etc.), so she is just identifying as queer at the moment. I will provide more details below, but I wanted to provide my overall question up front in my post.  I am looking for advice on how to decide between pursuing a MOM vs opting for divorce/separation.  What do I need to understand about myself in regard to what kind of relationship I want?  What questions should I be asking my wife to understand what she wants/needs and whether it is compatible with my wants/needs to have a successful MOM? 

In my case, I don't have concerns about infidelity or hidden behaviors due to her sexuality.  From what she has told me, it was only in the past few months that she even considered whether she was attracted to women.  She has never had a sexual encounter with a woman or even really fantasized about women.  She feels that societal stigma around homosexuality when she was growing up always kept her from even considering the possibility that she was anything but heterosexual until the past year.  And I do believe she is being honest about her experience.

To partially answer my own question, one thing I know is important to me in a marriage is a physical connection, but this is an area that has often been a struggle in our marriage.  I’ve often been more interested in sexual intimacy than her and have almost always been the initiator for sexual intimacy which has often made me frustrated particularly in recent years.  When she told me about her sexuality, one of my first questions was whether she was actually attracted to me physically to which she told me “I don’t know”.  While I do believe she is being honest in her uncertainty, part of me wonders if deep down she knows that she isn’t attracted to me but can’t bring herself to accept it since it likely means the end of our marriage.  However, what complicates this issue is that she also has a history of sexual trauma from previous relationships with men which she has told me often makes her feel anxiety when she has tried to be intimate with me.  It’s only been in the past few years that she has begun to work through these experiences in therapy.  In fact, it was only a few days ago that she first opened up to me with more detail about these experiences and labeled one in particular as a sexual assault.  So this leaves me torn between believing that she is not physically attracted to me or that our issues are due to her previous trauma which she hasn’t fully confronted but could potentially work through.  And if it is due to her trauma, I would like to be there to support her in working through that trauma and hope it can lead to a more healthy physical relationship between us.

What also makes me torn between a MOM vs separation is that for the past year (and perhaps longer) we have been in a rough patch in our marriage.  Even before she revealed her sexuality, I had given some consideration to separation since I have lost confidence in the past year that she loves me the way that I need to be.  Part of my concern is due to the sexual intimacy issues mentioned above, but there are other reasons as well.  I decided not to go into detail about our other issues since they are not necessarily related to her sexuality.  And despite these issues, I do feel that I deeply love her and for the majority of our marriage I have been incredibly happy to be with her which is why hadn’t yet committed to separation since I always felt that there was still hope for repairing our relationship and being happy together again.  In this sense, another way to interpret my question is how do you decide if there is still hope for a successful relationship as a MOM?

 

March 26, 2025 1:23 pm  #2


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

FrodoBaggins wrote:

In this sense, another way to interpret my question is how do you decide if there is still hope for a successful relationship as a MOM?

Frodo ....if you can imagine the woman you thought would be yours and yours alone forever, until you die...living, laughing, loving. If you can imagine her leaving to be intimate.... maybe fall in love with another woman, then come home and be your wife and act like everything is fine...if you are okay with that then your r'ship may work.

Elle
 


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March 26, 2025 8:59 pm  #3


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

Frodo - As I'm reading your story I had a couple thoughts, here's my two cents:

If she's deceitful I would be out of the marriage (many spouses have known their whole lives but chosen to lie and therefore subject their spouse to an abusive situation)

If she's just now being attracted to women and wanting to pursue that... well I wondered with my ex husband, if he all the sudden wondered what it was like to fuck a blonde would I be ok with him looking at blonde porn?  Fantasizing about blondes?  Talking to blondes just to see if there was chemistry? Opening the marriage to see if he was more fulfilled with fucking blondes?  And I was willing to be the door mat if it didn't really work with blondes and the one to hold the family and life together for everyone to think we were still "perfect?"  Or was he going to be all in our marriage still and make it work no matter his sexual identity?  Or had he always been gay and was deceitful our entire marriage - in which case see to point number one.

In my case, it came out (ha) that he had been fucking men in public bathrooms, parking lots etc... for who knows how long and that he was selfish beyond comprehension.  After repeated infidelity (and my genuine forgiveness) and deceit and STD testing and broken promises, I could not remain married to him.  He was not in any sense the man I married or the father to my children.

I can see a MOM working for you if she is all in, if she is honest, if you are honest about what you want and you both can find a way to have a sexually gratifying relationship as well as the intimate day to day life that's full and meaningful.  It could be something that brings you closer, having someone love you even with your quirks and the ugly things no one else knows is amazing, someone to share your struggles and fears and dreams with.  Someone to confide your deepest desires and laugh about the craziness of life. 

If your wife wants to pursue a different life, I'd take every step you can to protect your kids and your assets from the fallout of the "adolescence" stage many gay spouses go through.  One thing I wish I had done when my exhusband was still saying the right things as far as he would take care of me and the kids:  get a post marital agreement drawn up by an aggressive, experienced divorce attorney and signed as soon as possible.  "I want to make this work but am scared of what it might mean for the future. I just need to know that it will be ok in case it doesn't work"  Then it is all decided prior to the blow up and emotions and the hell that can come with divorce.

Keep us posted -
"Marie"

Edit:  Be specific in your conversations about what you want.  My husband wanted to open the marriage and have threesomes.  When I asked him to walk me through exactly how he envisioned it going it was really just me giving him permission to fuck a man while I basically sat in the corner with popcorn.  Uh, yeah, NO.  Being sexually attractive and wanted is extremely important to most people, be honest with your own desires and needs.  It's easy to default to taking care of your spouse (appropriate in most cases) and not prioritize yourself.  
 

Last edited by MarieSmith (March 26, 2025 9:06 pm)

 

March 27, 2025 8:23 pm  #4


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

MOM can work! Ours does - you can read my story in Embracing my Husband's SSA thread.

You do need two very committed spouses. You will put in a lot of work. It will be very painful for a while. In my case - I think it was worth it, but it is a very personal choice.

Good analogy with liking blondes - 98% of straight men watch porn with blonds. Many wives are OK with that. Many men are OK with their wives having sex with women (particularly if they can take part), some women are OK with their husbands having sex with men (most aren't). No need to sum it to infinity. Watching porn, reading novels, having more "gay" sex with their opposite sex partber might be all a person needs. Or not.

The gay/bi adolescence stage is real, but some people go through it a lot quicker and calmer than others. Others use it as an excuse to be a d*ckhead for years to come.

Do get a post-nup discuss all the "what-ifs". I did and it made our journey a lot smoother as I wasn't panicking.

Good luck. You got this, one way or another!

 

March 28, 2025 9:27 am  #5


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

Thanks Elle, Marie, and Alex for sharing your perspective.  My wife and I are still at the early stage of trying to talk about what this means for our relationship.  We've been monogamous for the entirety of our marriage thus far.  I haven't asked yet if her newly discovered sexuality means that she would like to switch to an open marriage, but your responses makes me feel like we need to have that conversation sooner rather than later.  Certainly I can see how some of the things she's said since she came out to me suggests that that may be what she wants.  Is it unrealistic to expect that a MOM can stay monogamous?  I didn't think an MOM necessarily meant that the marriage was open, but I can imagine that's more common.  I can understand that after a lifetime of suppressing ones sexuality, once one has decided to embrace it, they would naturally feel compelled to explore it.

I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of an open marriage, but my initial reaction is that it is unlikely to work well between us.  As I've mentioned, we've struggled throughout our marriage with sexual intimacy, and I have a hard time believe that that could improve by opening up the marriage.  After being monogamous for so long, I feel like there would be too many feelings of jealousy and/or guilt, certainly on my part and perhaps for her as well.

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March 28, 2025 11:54 am  #6


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

I think that Dutchman and his partner who post here sometimes have a monogamous MOM. Really, your relationship can be defined however you want it to be, as long as there is communication and trust. 

When I was considering a MOM (before deciding on separation/divorce, but I didn't have a partner who communicated openly and whom I could trust), I read a book called The Ethical Slut, about ethical non-monogamy. It was helpful, because I could consider the ideas on my own, without any pressure from a partner. Not for me, but it's great if it works for others!

Good luck in your discernment, 

Anon 765

 

March 28, 2025 5:07 pm  #7


Re: How to decide if an MOM is right for your situation?

I don't know if it's still the same but in France they used to have a law called crime of passion - kill your business competitor and it's murder, kill your wife's lover and it's a crime of passion.  I always rather liked that.  

Feeling jealous over your spouse can be very painful, just naturally you want to keep them happy but if your spouse isn't who they said they were then you just might find that you have a change of heart as the news hits home.  I know I did.

Monogamous pair bonding is not just the way of many humans, it's the same in a number of species isn't it.  There's a pair of rosellas who come to my verandah for a feed most days, they are so funny to watch.  They both agree she gets priority but there he is, she is feeding and he is keeping guard and you know who should complain if he takes a bit of seed every so often, well she rounds on him tells him right off, and he goes oh okay and stands straight again.  but then the next minute she is making room and asking him to please feed more.  Somehow you just know that if one of them dies the other will grieve.

It's based in romantic love isn't it.

 

Last edited by lily (March 28, 2025 5:09 pm)

 

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