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Thanks for the responses Lily and Ordinary guy. To answer Lily, I do have family I talk to about this stuff and they have been as supportive as they can be. They have had their own full lives of failed marriages and tbh has tinted my views on marriage in general. I grew up witnessing many divorces, so I can only lean on them so much for advice. Also my head is spinning I suppose because none of what she said or done has felt malicious, I don't feel like when she is saying any of these things that it comes from a bad place, but more so that she wants things to work but is still confused and adjusting herself perhaps. I can sense her strong desire for a family, and she states that she can only see that with me.
In response to Ordinary Guy, I wouldn't say we are "in a relationship" currently, as she and I have completely separated in terms of living space and financials. We are more in a place of deciding what to do next, which is where a lot of my confusion comes from, because it feels like it comes down to me deciding whether or not to keep trying for the relationship. At times I feel like I can still see that future together, but I keep requesting space from talking because I need to know how I truly feel and if we talk all the time it starts to cross my wires. Also she has stated that she does not feel like she is a lesbian, and still desires me sexually, which makes things even harder, as I feel like if she just said "I only like women" it would make things much easier. But I highly agree with your perspective, I am beginning to find my own feet to stand on in this and am starting to have more of a "what's best for me" mentality, which is something I honestly have put off for many years. Also thank you for the compliment, it is nice to not feel like the bad guy in all this, which sounds somewhat common for people who are experiencing the other side of their spouse finding themselves.
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in my experience it's the ones that make you feel good that you have to watch out for the most.
There was this woman who told me she was having relationship problems, she was sleeping in her van and I said she could stay in my studio for three nights. I found myself pushed around by her without even realising it was happening and then I noticed that I was waking in the night feeling concerned and wanting to talk it out with her and yet as soon as I spoke with her it went away and I felt like everything was completely fine and it was only the following night that I woke up still feeling worried and realised my concerns hadn't been addressed or answered at all.
I asked her to leave the next morning. Guess who came to help her move back out of my studio (she had filled it with stuff) - her boyfriend. Turned out to be a nice man, I felt sorry for him but tbh was mainly glad she was moving on from me.
My favourite line in Ordinary guy's post - "You don’t need to accept this amount of disrespect in your life."
I don't know what happened with the girl you met but that sounds much more promising. Or maybe someone new will come along.
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lily wrote:
- "You don’t need to accept this amount of disrespect in your life.".....
Yep Lily...that shone out for me too
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blankcanvas,
I'd like to address your last line, that it's "nice to not feel like the bad guy in all this..."
So many of us are supportive of friends and family members who are LGBT, so it's not uncommon for us straight spouses to feel "rainbow washed" when it comes to our partners coming out of their closet, and feel like we need to support them for being their true selves (and refrain from the honest assessment of the damage they've done to our psyche). Sometimes that support of them at the expense of us being in touch with our own feelings, our own well being, and our own healthy self-interest. Hopefully you can continue to consider what YOU want, and what YOU deserve in a partner.
TBH, I'm envious that you are seeing her non-straight self now. I was married for 23 years before I knew he was gay. I'm hoping to find a real partner some day - and I wonder what it might have been like to have spent my younger years with someone who was into me, and someone whose repression and secrets weren't expressed in anxiety and manipulation.
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blankcanvas wrote:
Thanks for the responses Lily and Ordinary guy. To answer Lily, I do have family I talk to about this stuff and they have been as supportive as they can be. They have had their own full lives of failed marriages and tbh has tinted my views on marriage in general. I grew up witnessing many divorces, so I can only lean on them so much for advice. Also my head is spinning I suppose because none of what she said or done has felt malicious, I don't feel like when she is saying any of these things that it comes from a bad place, but more so that she wants things to work but is still confused and adjusting herself perhaps. I can sense her strong desire for a family, and she states that she can only see that with me.
In response to Ordinary Guy, I wouldn't say we are "in a relationship" currently, as she and I have completely separated in terms of living space and financials. We are more in a place of deciding what to do next, which is where a lot of my confusion comes from, because it feels like it comes down to me deciding whether or not to keep trying for the relationship. At times I feel like I can still see that future together, but I keep requesting space from talking because I need to know how I truly feel and if we talk all the time it starts to cross my wires. Also she has stated that she does not feel like she is a lesbian, and still desires me sexually, which makes things even harder, as I feel like if she just said "I only like women" it would make things much easier. But I highly agree with your perspective, I am beginning to find my own feet to stand on in this and am starting to have more of a "what's best for me" mentality, which is something I honestly have put off for many years. Also thank you for the compliment, it is nice to not feel like the bad guy in all this, which sounds somewhat common for people who are experiencing the other side of their spouse finding themselves.
I have no issue with people who have and own their sexuality I have sympathy for those who feel shamed by it in any way at all. What I do not like is the fact that the onus is on the straight partner to somehow adapt to a circumstance that is beyond their control, or even to allow behaviours such as infidelity simply because ‘Gay’. The term ‘Rainbow washing’, in the context of social inclusivity, does not automatically apply to the application of morality as well. Your wife may well say she still desires you sexually, but her actions are lesbian. When she is in love with, and having sex with a woman, just how bisexual in practice is she being. If you still accept that being straight is largely the norm for most people either male or female, the heterosexual element of a bisexual identity is irrelevant. The degree to which they are same sex attracted is very much relevant in a straight relationship. If it is strong enough that they feel the compulsion and desire to act on it, then this is a major problem as any infidelity would be in a monogamous relationship. Bisexuality is a thing. So is heterosexuality. Bimoraltiy isn’t. If you cannot accept it in your partner then that is fine.