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November 20, 2024 6:06 pm  #1


I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

feel like i need to remove this

Last edited by lookingforanswers123 (December 9, 2024 7:24 pm)

 

November 20, 2024 8:25 pm  #2


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

lookingforanswers123 wrote:

I have an appointment scheduled for myself with a therapist soon. I'm going to lay it all out on the table, maybe speaking it out loud will help me figure things out. Any thoughts or advice is welcome. I'm not sure what a therapist would make of my story. I wonder if they would tell me it's all just speculation, these are problems of a normal marriage and I'm at fault for half of it or, if I would get validation. I'm not sure what I'm looking for with therapy. Any thoughts are welcome, thank you for reading.

Hi Looking,

I'm sorry you find yourself here, and with all of these questions. Spend some time reading other posts and stories on the forum - you may find some answers or solace in knowing you are not alone.

If a therapist tells you that it is all speculation or all in your head, run for the hills. I don't know whether your husband is gay or not, but a good therapist should never tell you to doubt yourself.

If you are at all considering leaving the marriage, see a lawyer if you can before talking about it to your husband. It's something I really wish I had done first. Figure out your rights (parental and otherwise),  and your financial picture first.

Wishing you strength on this journey,

Anon 765

 

 

November 20, 2024 10:03 pm  #3


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

For a woman who says she's confused/need to find more proof about her husband you've sure done enough research, and self-reflection, to know he's not straight Well done..

He may be bisexual (which is an initial cop-out, an easy excuse because for many men bisexuality is somehow "okay")....or he may indeed be gay. But he isn't the important one here Looking4answers....you are. And you have a decision to make but that'll be a ways down the road because first you need to get the whole Mindfuck of this dynamic clear and understood in your mind first. That is more difficult when you're in a family with young children but finding people....family, friend, counsellor to talk to is a good start because speaking to somebody and hearing the words coming out of your mouth is totally different from our own tortured self-analytical middle-of-the-night sessions which only we 'hear'....lol 

Edited to say...that friend who told your husband he should telll you how good you look? I reckon he might know (or guess) that your husband is gay.

Elle

Last edited by Ellexoh_nz (November 20, 2024 10:07 pm)


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November 23, 2024 10:48 am  #4


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

Hi Looking,

Sorry to find you on this forum. Your husband could be gay in denial or he could be bisexual.

You have other more important things to figure out though:

1) What do you want from your marriage/relationship (whether with him or another person)? Is lacklustre marriage what you want?
2) What are your needs, e.g. security, psysical intimacy, help with kids, psychological support, etc.
3) How to communicate your needs, including your sexual needs to your partner. Sorry, but it's clear you two haven't been great at this. As women, we are taught to internalise all the marital problems, and this never leads to a healthy relationship

Therapy is a great start! If your husband wants to stay with you and work on your relationship, I would also recommend a couple's therapy. If he would be open to it, he could probably use individual therapy as well - counseling can help him accept his sexuality and come out - which will in turn give you clarity on whether he's gay, bi, or something else.

I'm very happily married to a bisexual man. He is attracted to men, but it doesn't bother me as he satisfies all my needs. We talk about anything and everything. Our sex life has improved significantly after his coming out (and it wasn't at all bad prior). We are monogamous.

Good luck ❤️ Please continue with couselling and make sure you take care of yourself in other ways - connect with friends, exercise, and find time for doing things you love.

Last edited by Alex1984 (November 23, 2024 6:07 pm)

 

November 23, 2024 5:12 pm  #5


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

HI,

Your post is calling for validation of your thoughts that your H might be gay.  

I suppose the only people that can give complete validation would be the men he has had sex with.  But speaking as someone who had no evidence or proof either I know how hard it is to make progress in your life without it.  What I can say is your post is filled with stuff that says gay in denial.  What I can say is you do have evidence in a way, one very big piece - yourself. 

I didn't even think about snooping on his computer or phone.  There might have been evidence there, idk, but the stuff I've discovered since getting divorced makes me think my ex was very good at leading a double life - I did get my evidence afterwards.

As far as I can determine bisexual is just another term for gay in denial.  But really it's enough to know he isn't straight, isn't it?  A straight might think, oh he's bisexual maybe we can work out a way to have intimacy now that I know but if the term bisexual was literally accurate, ie experiences sexual attraction to women as well as men, then why didn't that intimacy happen at the start? 

"My husband and I met when I was a late teen and him early 20's. Our relationship has always been pretty lackluster, we don't fight or argue really. Anyway, it never occurred to me that my husband might be gay. It always seemed like I needed to work on myself to make any change in our relationship. Everyone said the one saying there's a problem is the one that needs to do the most changing so I have always just tried working on myself instead of trying to make it about my spouse."

I've taken your words and adjusted them so I literally could have written them myself.  Though reading it again, I wasn't advised to work on myself, just told to work on my marriage.  It was my husband who always told me it was me I had to work on.

It didn't occur to me until I was 57 that my ex was gay in denial - ie denying being gay - I heard the term on the straight spouse forum for the first time.  I wish I'd worked it out sooner and so all power to your elbow.  




 

Last edited by lily (November 23, 2024 5:18 pm)

 

November 23, 2024 7:50 pm  #6


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

If my ex wife found a nude picture of a woman I worked with that would be evidence enough that I was having a relationship with her.  You have your evidence right there but I think its normal to always want more.  You could install parental controls on your home internet router to gain visibility to websites visited, but its still easy to talk yourself out of what you know in your heart. You might consider reading Unseen-Unheard: Straight Spouses from Trauma to Transformation.   All of our stories might be different, but they have a common thread.

Last edited by Supernova (November 23, 2024 7:50 pm)

 

November 28, 2024 9:18 am  #7


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

I agree with the others. Your husband is most likely gay-in-denial based on his behaviors. However, the biggest question is whether you want to live this way. What do you want to teach your children about love and marriage? Is this type of emotional intimacy enough for you?

Also, my ex-GIDH blamed me for years (it was ALWAYS something -past or present). I spent years trying to fix myself to realize they were excuses because he wasn't attracted to me. He preferred men, and when the RIGHT guy entered into his life under the “friends” umbrella, our sex life really dried up. Ryan calls it the phase when he can no longer fake it! The patterns and behaviors are the same. Please listen to your gut and intuition!

 

November 30, 2024 11:01 pm  #8


Re: I need to be validated or told it's all in my head

Looking,


He doesn't sound straight.   Maybe he's not having an affair but he definitely isn't treating you well.

Years out from this I look back and can see she definitely didn't like sex with me.  At the time I knew no better and thought we were ok.  I don't know why they marry us so half heartedly with suppressed same sex attraction...  but it's not right or fair.  I look back now in horror at the lack of affection and narcissism I put up with..


Good luck at therapy...I hope it helps with the anxiety and helps validate your feelings.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

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