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August 9, 2024 8:30 am  #11


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

Lily,
I found a slip of paper that had the rituals written out for the solstice and it had things like "speak the incantation", "setting your intentions", "lighting the candles" etc.
I don't know about potions, but there does seem to be spells involved. I often find strips of paper with things written on them, usually they seem like wishes or happy thoughts, stuff like a friendship to grow, or money related. 
They do a lot of "manifestations" where they try to encourage things to happen by, i guess, meditating on them. She's got a clam shell with a couple dollars in it with some green crystals she leaves on her night stand... The only thing she's manifested is more debt. Last night she texted saying she was going to do ubereats with a friend because her job's not been giving her enough hours, But at the same time i'd gotten a notification she'd over drafted shopping at the local witch store (crystals, candles, etc). 

 

August 9, 2024 12:18 pm  #12


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

ok so to me her witchyness is more a fiscal worry than anything.  someone I know has burnt through all her money including her superannuation on a handicraft site - crystals, resin, bits of this bits of that.  and clothes of course.

 

August 9, 2024 10:30 pm  #13


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Lily, that may be part of it, but I think it's just trying to make herself feel better about what she's doing. She also came from a conservative Christian family. Her birth father left for another man and she was raised by her grandfather, who was a preacher. I think the only reason she's not done anything yet is she doesn't want him to know. 

Right now, as I write this, she's at a gay club doing a lesbian dance party while I'm getting the kids fed and in bed. 

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August 10, 2024 10:07 am  #14


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Hi HHIHC, I was just addressing the idea of heaven and hell, saying I don't believe you need to fear she is demonic so much as you need to be concerned at how much money she is spending.

But here she is out again at a dance party.  omg, I feel for you, it sounds like she has checked out on her kids as well as her marriage.

 

August 10, 2024 5:56 pm  #15


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I think you will find it's what is known as Wicca. It's a pagan type belief system and leans heavily into things like nature worship and druidism. I expect some fundamentalist-type Christian groups would call it witchcraft, evil, devil-worship, etc. I think that's an oversimplification, but I can see how she might be worried about how others in her family might react. It is possible that she feels more free to express her sexual orientation by embracing Wiccan ideas.

Her lack of responsibility towards you and your children, and the financial mismanagement is a personal failing.

 


“The future is unwritten.”
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August 10, 2024 8:07 pm  #16


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Lily. 
I don't believe I have to fear anything demonic necessarily, though the bible does warn against witchcraft (sorcery/idolatry), whether that's demonic or simply being rebellion, either way, not great. Her spending has been as much as 20% of my monthly income with little to no warning, dinners out whenever with no concern. In fact, she just left again, she told me she forgot she'd RSVP'd to a birthday party in the city. We'll see where that happens to be.... Judging by the new text message numbers i'm seeing from last night, I think she's got better game than I ever did. 

Daryl, I don't know enough about Wicca to say for sure since I don't really know what other forms of witchcraft there are. I have learned not all consider themselves "pagan" as that references other deities, and many essentially only worship themselves as the highest being. I'm not 100% sure which way she goes on that, though she's used the phrase "everything you need is within you" a few times and I've seen that on some things she has.... AND I plan to being up when it comes time to discuss alimony... as I'd hate to offend her new belief system. Also REALLY annoying considering how much of my income she's used. 
Before me, She did date a wiccan guy while attending a conservative Christian college. Guess I should have taken that as a warning. 

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August 11, 2024 12:39 am  #17


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oh goodness, so sorry to hear that - she's out again!  Look on the other side of the coin this might mean she's unable to insist on having custody much as she might want the money, as she just cannot face doing the caring.

So sorry.  Not only are you supposed to keep the home fires burning and care for the kids, you are also supposed to finance her independent lifestyle?  So sorry, to me this sounds like she is used to seeing you as her meal ticket.

I remember having this dream - by this stage I knew my ex was gay, I knew he was always lying to me.   I wanted a divorce and he didn't.  So the dream was very vivid - I was a big beautiful goose and I was sitting on my nest.  There was a golden egg underneath my fluffy white feathers and I looked down to see a grey hand creeping up into my nest to steal it.  Instantly awake I knew it was his hand.  It steeled me to face going into action.

To me the witch thing is what it is, she could be in a UFO club or a Kundalini Awakening club for all the difference.  I can appreciate you feel concern for how her beliefs might impact on the kids but mainly I think it's important to look at how she is behaving towards you, towards her family and home.

 

August 14, 2024 4:54 pm  #18


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I never wanted finance being a cause for divorce, but it'll definitely be a factor. I simply can't keep up with bills anymore, mostly because of how far behind she's put us. She totaled 2 cars, and had at least 2 fender benders in under 8 months. Our insurance hit as high as $650/month with our newest car being 8 years old. On top of that, she's put nearly 40k miles on her current car in about 18 months... so figure up the fuel costs, and she didn't even have a job until 2 months ago. That was just her out doing whatever she wanted.... Oh and taking the kids to school 2 days a week. Our credit is maxed out, our mortgage is late, but she's still having the time of her life. 

One of the things she said when I first confronted her about her books was that she did that to have some income in case my struggle with porn (currently in a recovery program) got us caught up in financial issues (never spent a dime on it) and she had to take the kids and leave.... 

Now I admit to my struggle and the pain it's caused her, I can't undo that, but inspite of that, i've busted my butt for nearly 2 decades trying to give her the best I could, only to have her constantly undermine my ability to do so... debt, spending, wrecks... even when we inherited money, she'd blow it on some sort of money making scheme that would never pan out instead of just putting it towards debt. 

Just being able to finally have a budget i can manage alone sounds like such a relief. 

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August 14, 2024 6:08 pm  #19


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That's awful, this stuff is stressful enough without having to worry about finances.  Hopefully your car insurance will go down once she's off your insurance.  Make sure to get half the book royalties.  I'd love to see my wife begrudgingly writing me a check for $0.35 each year.   Do you know if your state has alimony and if you're approaching any deadlines in terms of years of marriage that might allow her to file for alimony.

 

August 14, 2024 6:20 pm  #20


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We do have alimony here with a 1/3 payout period... so about 6 or 7 years depending on how they break that down. Lawyer said probably not as much with some evidence of cheating (which I've got some, and a pretty strong pile of circumstantial evidence) but hard to know exactly how that'll fall. 
That's another thing that's pissed me off. How much time she's spent writing those books, easily fulltime in some cases, to only make about $10k last year... of which only $7k or so was profit after expenses , editors, etc. And naturally she didn't withhold any for taxes, so it ate into my refund. 

I really don't like her car that much, we already had to replace the engine at 40somthing K miles (thankfully with warranty) so I don't want her to take my paid off 20 year old toyota. but she may have to  for the sake of whats affordable. We're upside down on hers... otherwise I'd get something newer. 

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