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July 10, 2023 10:37 am  #1


I don't really understand

I've been trying to accept the truth that my husband is bisexual, but I don't really "understand" it.   I wonder what another man could do for him that I can't do. 

He has tried to explain that his interest was all just sex and it wasn't emotional, but I don't think that it's all just the physical mechanics of sex.   There must be an emotional / cognitive element that I'll never be able to comprehend.  

I've read that neglect from the same sex parent could be a factor, which could apply to him, but he denies it and claims that he was "born this way".    

I think that our relationship will evolve.    I still feel insecure and anxious.   

I just remembered that he told me once that he liked dick just as much as I did.  






 

Last edited by M-Kate (July 13, 2023 8:31 am)

 

July 10, 2023 12:29 pm  #2


Re: I don't really understand

As a straight guy I don't understand it either..but as straight guy I was not supposed to have to..if a person is gay then don't marry the opposite sex..dont lead us on as we will never be enough.

If they had just been true to themselves and not married us.  I respect the gay people that are true to themselves and own it...that don't hurt someone of the opposite sex in such a profound and fundamental way.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

July 10, 2023 4:17 pm  #3


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M-Kate right at the start of the Mindfuck, when I was confused, concerned, scared that I was losing the person I felt was the most important in my life I was twisting myself in knots, angry at myself that I wasn't enough for my partner.
But these men don't need the straightspouse to understand them....they need us to be okay with who they are and not have to take any responsibility for what it does to us. 
The bisexual man in my case could separate who he was with me and who he was when he was with somebody else, when he was watching porn or reading literotica. My concerns did not factor.

This part of the Mindfuck did a 180 the day I saw an lgbtq counselor. I made the appointment because I thought if I understood more from an lgbtq angle my fears would be less. The guy basically told me I should let him be who he truly was. No advice for me other than that. I'm so glad I did this. It hurt like a knife through the heart but y'know from that day on my need to understand him started to wane..
...and I began to want to understand me, what would happen to me and where I belong

Elle


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July 10, 2023 7:59 pm  #4


Re: I don't really understand

When my husband came out of the closet and moved out he told people that we had separated because we had " grown apart." I told them that no, I had not grown a part he wanted.

 


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July 11, 2023 6:44 am  #5


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LOL

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July 11, 2023 8:14 am  #6


Re: I don't really understand

Abby, had to read your last message twice (because I'm not too bright) but it made me laugh out loud! Thanks. I'll remember that line, if you don't mind, next time my husband spews that horse-sh*t.

 

July 11, 2023 8:51 am  #7


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The way I try to frame it is not by trying to understand how someone could be bisexual, but more by degrees of homosexuality. If you completely forget and discount the heterosexual nature or part of them (despite what some people may say, this is still largely normal) and look at how strong the homosexual urges are. You will see how strong a part of the identity it is. For some it is only ideation, they acknowledge a sexual attraction to same sex. For others, the attraction is strong enough that they feel the need to act on it. When they are “getting what they need” from a same sex partner they are not being bisexual. The same is true when they are engaged in a sex act with the opposite gender. The bisexuality is a passive state of being while the orientation is fluid. Men who are bisexual are sexually attracted to men and the other man’s sexual attraction to them. They could have submissive penetration fantasies where they are sexually attracted to being taken by, and inseminated by another man. There could also be the opposite attraction to be sexually dominating another man and be the one doing the penetration and inseminating. You could also have the balance of enjoying both roles. So, it is not so much to do with the physical sensations of heterosexual sex. But, more to do with passive and submissive emotional and physical roles combined with and leading to gratification. There doesn’t need to be an emotional connection in place for this to happen. A bisexual man can romantically love a woman and make a clear distinction between this as a relationship separated from his need to be sexual with men.


And now here is my secret, a very simple secret. It is only with the heart that one can see clearly that which is essential is invisible to the eye.
 

July 11, 2023 10:02 am  #8


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Thank you for your insight.  It's hard to wrap my head around.   I remember during one conversation with my husband, he said that he didn't always want to be the "fucker".  He wanted to be the one being fucked.   He also has said that he would like me to just fuck him and so we bring in sex toys.  I don't know whether I can truly ever accept this part of him.   

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July 11, 2023 11:57 am  #9


Re: I don't really understand

M-Kate wrote:

Thank you for your insight.  It's hard to wrap my head around.   I remember during one conversation with my husband, he said that he didn't always want to be the "fucker".  He wanted to be the one being fucked.   He also has said that he would like me to just fuck him and so we bring in sex toys.  I don't know whether I can truly ever accept this part of him.   

It is up to you entirely as to what will accept. I can also understand why it would be difficult for a heterosexual woman to penetrate her husband. Normally it is the man’s masculinity that is an attractive quality and not a submissive brand of neo-femininity. It is also difficult for me to understand why a man would want to be “fucked” by another man. That in doing so he would find some pleasure from being dominated. But, I would certainly be concerned by his actions in respect to your health Kate. A woman in my group was left distraught by the fact that not only had her husband been off getting fucked by men. She also got the extra gifts of syphilis and Hep B. She sobbed with the shame of his bisexuality and the shame of having STDs. I am sure you would be happier with a straight man, who would be more than happy to ensure that you were the only focus of his desire and affection. My heart goes out to you.


And now here is my secret, a very simple secret. It is only with the heart that one can see clearly that which is essential is invisible to the eye.
 

July 11, 2023 1:53 pm  #10


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M-Kate wrote:

Thank you for your insight.  It's hard to wrap my head around.   I remember during one conversation with my husband, he said that he didn't always want to be the "fucker".  He wanted to be the one being fucked.   He also has said that he would like me to just fuck him and so we bring in sex toys.  I don't know whether I can truly ever accept this part of him.   

 

One day A. asked me to penetrate him anally with a toy. He had always had this sexual power over me (when I was in love) and could entice me to do things I didn't really in my heart of hearts want to do. When he asked this it was like I'd come to a crossroads, but the power struggle in my head between "Noooo...." and "...oh...okayyy...." was a moment I'll never forget. I knew if I acquiesced and did what he wanted it wouldn't stop. Thankfully I recoiled, I remember the feeling of horror & yes disgust. I left the room and went for a long walk. 
And when he finally admitted that he hoped one day to be fucked by a man....I was so glad that I hadn't been drawn into more of his sexual needs. 
3 years later I told him I no longer wanted any intimacy from or with him, ultimately sleeping in separate rooms. I suppose I had to become the bad guy in the r'ship to give myself the space to think and disengage from us....
.....but I don't regret being "the bad guy". It made me the new woman I am

Elle




 


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