OurPath Open Forum

This Open Forum is funded and administered by OurPath, Inc., (formerly the Straight Spouse Network). OurPath is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit that provides support to Straight Partners and Partners of Trans People who have discovered that their partner is LGBT+. Your contribution, no matter how small, helps us provide our community with this space for discussion and connection.


BE A DONOR >>>


You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?



April 28, 2023 2:03 pm  #1


Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Hi,
My husband is gay. I found out 3 years ago when I found a cell phone on the chair. It had gay pornography. When I questioned my husband, he said he was trying to figure things out. He said he experienced sexual abuse by a man when he was a boy. He had such trauma and was also raised with homophobia. He started therapy and guess what? He is gay. After 24 years of marriage he wants to start living his "truth" even though he has not experienced the gay life style. I discovered this by reading a text message that he had sent to his friend mentioning that he had taken his therapists advice and started building his "support circle" by coming out to a few people. He also said he had met with a lawyer to get questions answered about divorce. 
I LOVE my husband, He is my BEST friend. We have one college age daughter who is going to be devastated when she comes home next week. I am entering the retirement stage of life and have no interest in starting my life over. Our plans have been squashed. I am going to be 60 in November. My husband does not want to stay married even though he loves me very much. Our divorce will be very amicable and he promises that we will always have holidays and family time together with our only child. His family will completely disown him. He is loosing everything to explore this new path at in his late 50's. 
I guess I just need to hear from people my age, who are in this experience. Can we really be friends? Will our family just look different? I am so afraid of being alone in my retirement years. I have no family close by except my daughter who is in college 3 hours away.  My brother lives in a different state and my only surviving aunt lives even further away. I am so sad. 
I am seeing a therapist and have tools in place to help me navigate this new path. I just need to hear from those who can relate.

 

 

April 28, 2023 2:21 pm  #2


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Welcome to our Forum Teewee you have a long road ahead of you and it might not look like it now but you will get through this. 
What kind of friend doesn't tell the woman he's lived with for years something so important?

I am at the end of an interesting 6 years of discovering who my partner A. actually is and how strong I have to be to not let him ruin my life entirely. I'm 65 next month, in the process of separation and moving cities. I never imagined this would be my life but I feel like I'm breaking free from a weight that has held me down.

This forum is the only place where people truly know what it is to be a straightspouse but you need others in your life for support

Elle


KIA KAHA                       
 

April 28, 2023 3:32 pm  #3


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Been there, felt that, divorced going on 10 years now and have rebuilt my life so that I am in a contented retirement.

We spend time together with our children and their celebrations but he has his significant others (serial monogamy apparently). We attend events together when they are something that is a shared interest but I have my own circle of friends and I do not allow him into my new life.

Setting boundaries has been important for me. He could have been hit by a bus but he wasn't. The result was the same in that there was no funeral, and no insurance but I needed to go about figuring out how to live the rest of my life without him.

Retirement opens opportunities to meet new people and try new things. I moved to a different community and bought a home with a yard for my gardening. It was important for me not be be where I would run into him or his friends and eventually he moved states away.

It takes time but with a good lawyer to secure an appropriate financial settlement you can build a good life. 


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

April 28, 2023 7:53 pm  #4


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

I’ll make a few observations.

You say you love your husband. Fine, but the person you loved is the person he pretended to be. The person before you right now is a gay dude, and I doubt you would have committed your life to a gay dude.

You say he’s your best friend. Do friends tell each other lies of this magnitude and cause people to make the most intimate and personal decisions of their lives based upon them?  Much less “best friends”?

You say you’re 60.  Better to re-boot your life at 60 than at 70. You’ve got a lot of life to live, and it’s time to seize the many days ahead of you.

Go meet with a lawyer.  Find out what you are legally entitled to, and take it.   You need to protect yourself, and keep in mind that he’s certainly been protecting himself.

Keep posting. I’m sorry you are here. Things will get so much better than this.

 

April 29, 2023 2:35 pm  #5


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Hi Teewee
I am so sorry you're here. I'm 66 and I had to make the terrible discovery on my own without even the slightest clue there was anything wrong.

I too used to think my husband was my soul mate/best friend... but I've come to the conclusion that love and deception are mutually exclusive. I know I love my sons and their partners (and my dog!) and I just know I couldn't knowingly hurt any of them.

Facing retirement and a future you never expected is higely unfair, but know that you will find a new landscape over time. If you are strong enough to reach out on here, you are strong enough to weather this in your way, bit by bit.

 

May 3, 2023 11:52 am  #6


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Blue Bear: 

Regarding your comment: You say you love your husband. Fine, but the person you loved is the person he pretended to be. The person before you right now is a gay dude, and I doubt you would have committed your life to a gay dude.

I appreciate your comment, however, my husband was not "pretending" to be anyone other that the amazing human he is. He did not know he was gay until 3 years ago when he recalled some horrible trama he went through as a child, saught help, and through the process discovered he was gay. These weren't sick thoughts anymore, it was reality.

     Thread Starter
 

May 3, 2023 2:36 pm  #7


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Hi TeeWee,

Can you imagine going through your teenage years and not noticing that you are attracted to boys?

Overwhelmingly the odds are that your husband is lying to you when he says he did not know he was gay until 3 years ago when - well let's just notice this is when you found him out.  He didn't tell you off his own bat.

Presumably, like most gay people, he didn't want to be gay,  But he was watching gay porn and you caught him at it and then he told you about 'recalling the trauma' and said he was gay.  Can you imagine keeping something like that hidden from him?

Have you heard the term minimising?  Is he crying over hurting you or is he eliciting your sympathy over his trauma and minimising/totally ignoring yours?

The reality of divorce is not amicable.  It is a business transaction and you will find out just how nice he's going to be or if he is going to decide he needs to come out of it will as much as he can manage to pull off.

Protect yourself financially now.  My 'Mr Nice Guy' ex was already siphoning funds out of our joint account before I even knew he was gay.

It's not that we want to be unkind it's just that there's more to lose and so we are trying to help you wise up to your situation as fast as possible.  

The odds are that the reason he wants a divorce is because he already has a boyfriend.  The chances of playing happy families on the other side of divorce, when the business has been concluded, are low but they are best served by getting a fair split.  The chances are he wants you to be nice to him and you will need to fight to get a fair split.  Listen to your lawyer.

sorry.  It is horrible to have your life blown up at 60 but you know what I'm glad to be out of that mess.  

As Blue Bear said - he was pretending to you all along.  Do you really still believe he is your soul mate?   It's one of those things that is a common thread in our stories, I thought of my ex as my soul mate and best friend too, but I did not know him.  The person I thought I was married to was a complete pretence, when I saw that I got such a shock - I had been conducting a marriage by talking with a sock puppet and the real man stood in the shadows behind and that person, the real person is who you will need to consider in completing the divorce process.

 

May 3, 2023 3:04 pm  #8


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

I appreciate your comments, however, I believe I am in a unique situation than most. I believe that with a lot of grace and intention we can make this new life work. If we share the struggle and find peace for each other, and our family, we can make our new life work. Living his life honestly and authentically does not change the way he feels about me or our family. I belive that. We are determined to work together and define our future cooperatively. Finding himself, does not mean he is abandoning me. He has told me that his hope is to be a better person for all of us. We will work with compassion to define our path forward. My family and our friends know him, and BECAUSE they know him as a person, they know this will be nothing but amicable. I belive it too. This is not easy, but I have to believe those who know both of us as apposed to others who have had a different experience. 
Thank you for your concern. 

Last edited by TeeWee (May 3, 2023 3:05 pm)

     Thread Starter
 

May 3, 2023 4:14 pm  #9


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

Hi TeeWee, you sound like a really nice person and yes of course each situation is unique but thinking that your partnership is unique is another one of the commonalities of our stories.

My mother was a fan of my ex husband, she thought he was such a nice man and I was so lucky but eventually she started saying things like 'he won't fully accept you but he won't let you go.'  Then after she had a stroke she got a bit uncomfortable with his presence, she didn't want him near her.

This is a forum - we don't know either you or him, other than what we read in your posts.  You are feeling scared and sad.   You're concerned  about what lies ahead in the messy process of divorcing.  And, like us all you feel scared to be lonely and this also is a reasonable fear to have.  I found it a lot easier once I was facing it and have found it does have a way of sorting out to a nice life.

The sad is extremely reasonable too, sure is - there's a whole lot of sympathy here.

Divorce is a business affair.  it needs to be conducted and concluded.  You confer with your lawyer.  You convey information in writing.  We worked out the details of the separation agreement by email.  

You sound like a nice person.  You probably think, like I did, that the nicer you are to him in the divorce process the better the chances of being friends and able to enjoy an extended family life on the other side of it but the opposite is the case - the nicer he is to you the better the chances are.



 

Last edited by lily (May 3, 2023 4:15 pm)

 

May 19, 2023 9:16 am  #10


Re: Newbie and Trying to navigate this new path at age 59!

TeeWee wrote:

I appreciate your comments, however, I believe I am in a unique situation than most. I believe that with a lot of grace and intention we can make this new life work. If we share the struggle and find peace for each other, and our family, we can make our new life work. Living his life honestly and authentically does not change the way he feels about me or our family. I belive that. We are determined to work together and define our future cooperatively. Finding himself, does not mean he is abandoning me. He has told me that his hope is to be a better person for all of us. We will work with compassion to define our path forward. My family and our friends know him, and BECAUSE they know him as a person, they know this will be nothing but amicable. I belive it too. This is not easy, but I have to believe those who know both of us as apposed to others who have had a different experience. 
Thank you for your concern. 

And all of this is OK because you have to do what works best for you.  I encourage you to find yourself a good therapist to make sure that you continue to look out for you, and to help yourself work through a very complicated process.

I also encourage you to listen to the outstanding podcasts that Our Path publishes.  In particular, listen to the podcasts featuring Ryan King, a guy who was a closeted gay husband.  He's quite forthcoming and articulate about the experience of gay men who marry straight women.  I think you will find his perspective enlightening.

All the best.
 

Last edited by Blue Bear (May 19, 2023 9:19 am)

 

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum