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February 8, 2023 5:29 am  #1


Is my husband secretly gay?

We have been together for 20 yrs. In the beginning our sex life was great. Then about 5 or 6 yrs into the marriage he starts adding lingerie for me to wear. From there it progressed to him wearing matching panties. After a few more years I caught him wearing my lingerie. I was so mad because he was stretching them out and I didn't even want to wear them.

After that he started buying nylons, shoes and satin long arm gloves. He started telling me during sex how he wanted to wear these while we had sex. I said no because it doesn't turn me on. Then a few years later I caught him masturbating to videos of men with boob jobs and dressed like women and then these men would have sex with actual women in the videos. It hurt because it started to make sense why our sex life was not good. He has a hard time cumming unless he talks about this stuff or I give him a bj for a long time or he masterbates on me. Then recently about a year or 2 ago he started telling me during sex that he wished I had a penis. He also said during sex that he wished he was getting anal from a "shemale" ( his words) while we were having sex.

This has all been very painful and hurtful to me. I have gotten such low self esteem because I don't feel like I am enough for him sexually. I don't feel like he is really attracted to me nor do I even want to have sex with him because of this. I have developed some issues from this including putting on about 100lbs because I feel so gross and ugly that I have stopped caring about what I look like. I hate this feeling. I would rather let him masterbate than touch me. I love him and other than the sex he is very caring and kind but I miss being intimate. We haven't had sex in over a year.

Can someone here let me know if you have been through something similar and whether or not my husband is secretly gay or something else?

TIA

 

February 8, 2023 9:22 am  #2


Re: Is my husband secretly gay?

Sad,
 It sounds more like your husband is an autogynephile, or a man who is sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a woman, and watches a lot of porn, particularly "shemale" porn.  Many autogynephiles (my ex, for one), see being penetrated as "playing the part of a woman," because they associate penetration with femaleness.  (My ex said to me, "I want to play the part of a woman; I want to be penetrated.")   

What you're dealing with is not a man who is gay; you're dealing with a man who has a sexual paraphilia.  That's what autogynephilia is.  At base, however, getting an exact definition matters less than whether you find his behavior acceptable in a partner.  He is not going to go back to being the partner you once (thought you) had.  Autogynephiles ramp up their fantasies and behaviors over time, and each new step leads to the desire for another--as you yourself describe.  As I can attest, living with a man who implicitly and explicitly devalues you sexually takes a huge toll on your own self-esteem.  Sometimes the people we love can be bad for us; as for him, his behavior does not sound particularly loving towards you.  

 

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (February 8, 2023 9:22 am)

 

February 8, 2023 1:05 pm  #3


Re: Is my husband secretly gay?

Hi Sad,
I'm so sorry you've endured that treatment. Most of us go through a period of time where we consider how to become what our spouse wants because it feels like there's something wrong with us when we love our spouse and want to share ourselves with them, but they reject us and say that want something different. Ultimately that's what you've experienced. Your husband has been with you and is now saying he wants something different. It doesn't matter if your husband is gay, bi, trans, or something else. What matters is how he's treating you in your relationship.

I don't believe a person can truly love someone while simultaneously rejecting them, especially because of their parts. I know that sounds harsh, but loving someone (in a marital type of relationship) means you keep choosing them. Rejection in marriage might be the most destructive thing you can experience in a relationship, even more destructive than being rejected by parents, siblings, other family or friends. We expect to be our full selves in marriage so rejection becomes incredibly personal. Love can't be one-sided. If he's treating you like this, he's focused on himself and you aren't the priority you should be. 

You've put up some healthy boundaries. That's amazing! Have you had a direct conversation with him about missing your connection and how his preferences are making you feel? Even if it's uncomfortable, the conversation has to be extremely clear with no room for confusion or misinterpretation. If you do that and he's indifferent or doesn't DO something to change things (words are great but actions are what really matter), that tells you a lot about where this is going. 

 

February 8, 2023 2:21 pm  #4


Re: Is my husband secretly gay?

My comments in red

Sad&Lonely wrote:

We have been together for 20 yrs. 38 years here 
In the beginning our sex life was great. Ditto. I thought I'd hit the jackpot he was so attentive and into me
Then about 5 or 6 yrs into the marriage he starts adding lingerie for me to wear. My partner was always buying me lingerie/pretty things/sexy silky things. When you are in love doing this comes across as a 'love'ly thing.
From there it progressed to him wearing matching panties. After a few more years I caught him wearing my lingerie. Yeah my SO bought me a pair of crotchless, lacy tights. I saw it through my Love Eyes, but eventually I discovered he wore my silk underwear and the tights he swore he'd thrown out. 
I was so mad because he was stretching them out and I didn't even want to wear them. Anger is one of your best tools to help you get through this. But it has to be anger at what he is doing to you and it has to galvanise you into wanting to be strong enough to see he'll never change and that you deserve more.

After that he started buying nylons, shoes and satin long arm gloves. He started telling me during sex how he wanted to wear these while we had sex. I said no because it doesn't turn me on. Then a few years later I caught him masturbating to videos of men with boob jobs and dressed like women and then these men would have sex with actual women in the videos. It hurt because it started to make sense why our sex life was not good. He has a hard time cumming unless he talks about this stuff or I give him a bj for a long time or he masterbates on me. Then recently about a year or 2 ago he started telling me during sex that he wished I had a penis. He also said during sex that he wished he was getting anal from a "shemale" ( his words) while we were having sex. Omg....what degrading and hurtful things to say! I'll bet he said it in a sexy voice that he thought made him sound like he was turning you on but was only turning him on. 

This has all been very painful and hurtful to me. I have gotten such low self esteem because I don't feel like I am enough for him sexually. You have to go one step further....from feeling bad about yourself ​to standing up for yourself 
I don't feel like he is really attracted to me nor do I even want to have sex with him because of this. I have developed some issues from this including putting on about 100lbs because I feel so gross and ugly that I have stopped caring about what I look like. I hate this feeling. Yip that feeling is a real bitch. But the answer to it lies with you. Your husband's not going to help you. You have to feel worthy. He's there for himself. Everything you've written about him screams self-involved, selfish and one-sided.
I would rather let him masterbate than touch me. I love him and other than the sex he is very caring and kind Yeah that initial love-hold they get over us is a real killer of our individuality. My partner's a great guy too.
..but I miss being intimate. We haven't had sex in over a year. I haven't had sex in 3 years. I would rather masturbate than ever touch or be touched by him intimately again. Once you find the power in yourself to stand up to the way this man is treating you, once you admit to yourself that this is who he is, and when you want to live your own life not his....things will start to change.

Can someone here let me know if you have been through something similar and whether or not my husband is secretly gay or something else? Who cares if he's gay, bisexual or a demi-jigsaw....you're not. Stop giving him all your power

TIA

Elle
 


KIA KAHA                       
 

February 8, 2023 3:42 pm  #5


Re: Is my husband secretly gay?

So here's what I can tell you -- he ain't straight.  This isn't even a close call.

So you say you love him.  I loved my lesbian ex-wife, too.  Or rather, I loved the person who she conned me into thinking that she was.  You're probably in the same boat.  Would you have fallen in love with him if you knew up front that the real person you married:
1.  Likes to wear panties?
2.  Wears your lingerie?
3.  Wants to wear satin arm gloves during sex?
4.  Digs transexual porn?
5.  Wishes you had a penis?
6.  Desires to have sex with a man when he's having sex with you?
7.  Can go for over a year without have sex with you?
8.  Would lie about his true sexual orientation to the person to you, the person he was supposed to love and respect more than anyone else?
9.  Would (quite understandably!) destroy your self-esteem?

Things became a lot easier for me when I realized that the woman I married didn't actually exist.  That woman was a character played by a skilled, manipulative, Oscar-worthy, narcissistic and sociopathic actress who flushed 20 years of my life down the toilet because she lacked the maturity to live her true life.

Ask yourself if this relationship -- the one with the actor rather than the character he was playing -- is acceptable to you.  Good luck.  Keep posting.
 

 

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