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September 23, 2022 10:17 am  #31


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Anon2222 wrote:

I spent my entire marriage being nice enough for the both of us apparently. 
 

Interesting.  I think I tried to be truthful and genuine for the both of us, and I think that got me into a lot of trouble.  🤦‍♂️

 

September 23, 2022 12:58 pm  #32


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Anon2222 wrote:

There were hints of it early in the marriage that I just glossed over. But, I learned the hard way that he is all about himself and he will do whatever he wants and screw anyone and everything else.
 

 This has been one of the most profound discoveries I've made. I too, spent 23 years looking through rose colored glasses. She is incredibly selfish. Sure, she did things for me from time to time, and is a good mother, I wont take that from her. That said, she is and has always been about herself. Never admitting mistakes is selfish. Always blaming your errors on someone or something else is selfish. Withholding information in a safe and stable relationship is about you, not the relationship. Upon reflection, I always did the apologizing, the making up, the conversation starting, all of it.....she is so inept at relationships, I'll ask her about her day and she will tell me. In the past, I would just tell her about mine. Now she just looks at me and says "are you going to tell me about your day". I say every time, "you didnt ask". SHE NEVER FREAKING ASKED! 

You are not alone. For us, we saw past the flaws because we chose the hard work of loving the person, scars and all. They did not and could not return us even half that curtesy. Real shame 

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September 23, 2022 5:43 pm  #33


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Blackie563 wrote:

Wishing you the best.....

Thanks Blackie. I feel like I wish I was as moved on in this process as you are, yet I know if I moved too quickly without actually being sure I would succeed...I'd come crashing down. By "succeed" I mean "have no regrets leaving". I want to not look back

Elle
 


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September 23, 2022 5:50 pm  #34


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Victo wrote:

..... I think I tried to be truthful and genuine for the both of us, and I think that got me into a lot of trouble. 🤦‍♂️

 

I've noted many, if not all of us feel this way. I look back and can pick out times when I thought "wait!...what? but how can you say that/do that"


 


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September 23, 2022 7:33 pm  #35


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Ellexoh_nz wrote:

 By "succeed" I mean "have no regrets leaving". I want to not look back 

I understand this, truly. I have zero doubt that I will look back from time to time, to do so is human. That said, based on what I know and how she has treated me, even if she came right to my room and apologized for everything, I can't say I'd take her back or trust her ever again. That to me, is non-negotiable, because I am not a jealous person, if I feel I have to check your email and phone logs, I have no interest in that type of relationship. I'd always wonder "is she off doing it again, she found many ways to lie to me before, she can do it again". 

I'm not saying its impossible, anything is possible, but where I am at is I am no longer expecting or hoping for that outcome. If by some rare chance, we find a way to reconcile and she gets the professional help she needs, not for her same sex attraction, but for her emotional immaturity, self centered nature and complete lack of intrapersonal skills, then thats fine. I dont NEED that. I've reached a point where I can clearly know what I need and what I want and have the ability to let the "wants" go. I'm not judging you or anyone else, this is just where I am on my journey. Everyone has their own path. 

So I am saying dont wish you were where I am, wish for where you need to be in order to be comfortable you've made the right decision for you. Nothing else matters.

 

October 6, 2022 10:10 am  #36


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Ellexoh, I'm so sorry, I've been offline and only now catching up -- I'm sorry I didn't respond when you first posted.  It's just so, so hard, and sometimes you're just trying to figure out the least bad choice of all the choices that are available to you.  

One of the things I remember feeling, back when I was still in the house with my husband, was that I hated the idea that "home" was not a sanctuary.  I really wanted "home" to be a place where I was safe, and where "true" and "false" were simple and grounded in reality.  I did NOT want to feel there were drawers or cupboards in my home where I would suddenly and unexpectedly be shocked at yet another horrible discovery.  I did NOT want "home" to be where I cleared a paper jam in the printer, only to see a flurry of pages spit out gay pornographic images.  I was exhausted by "home" feeling like an Alfred Hitchcock movie.  

 

October 6, 2022 1:09 pm  #37


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

My comments in red

walkbymyself wrote:

I'm so sorry, I've been offline and only now catching up -- I'm sorry I didn't respond when you first posted.  It's just so, so hard, and sometimes you're just trying to figure out the least bad choice of all the choices that are available to you. Oh Walk...that's okay The whole thing was a response to having to move into his bed while my son was here.  (and it's satisfying I could do that without feeling pressured....or having to pressure my partner) Call it a chapter-glitch in my Book of Survival.
My son has gone now  and the day after he went I had moved all my things back into MY room. 

One of the things I remember feeling, back when I was still in the house with my husband, was that I hated the idea that "home" was not a sanctuary.  I really wanted "home" to be a place where I was safe, and where "true" and "false" were simple and grounded in reality.  I did NOT want to feel there were drawers or cupboards in my home where I would suddenly and unexpectedly be shocked at yet another horrible discovery.  I did NOT want "home" to be where I cleared a paper jam in the printer, only to see a flurry of pages spit out gay pornographic images.  I was exhausted by "home" feeling like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. The fact of it was.....it was my partner's room, I needed to give my son space so gave him my room. We only have 2 bedrooms, my son is in a far worse headspace than I am and maternal instinct won over the Mindfuck. That's it. Being an intimate and loving partner is not an option anymore. But it was wonderful I could still be a mother. 

Elle

 


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October 7, 2022 9:06 pm  #38


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

I’m happy you could still be a mother, Elle. That matters. And so sorry your son is struggling.

 

October 8, 2022 1:51 pm  #39


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Toward the Light wrote:

I’m happy you could still be a mother, Elle. That matters. And so sorry your son is struggling.

Thanks TtL my son is 42 and alcoholic. One of the most resourceful people I know. We teach each other a lot about being there for others
 


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October 9, 2022 6:46 am  #40


Re: I just can't do it. Why can't I do it?

Elle, you did the right thing. I don't know if your son knows about your boyfriend but you did the right thing. I am holding a good thought for you,.

 

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