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January 13, 2022 6:50 pm  #1


Uncertainty and guilt

Hi Everyone! I'm new here and hope my dilemma/story will help someone in the way that reading so many sites on this thread has helped me.

I am a straight, 40-year old cisgender woman. I met my partner (same age), who presented as a straight male, about 4 years ago. We met through a dating app, and I was so taken with him even on Day 1. He was polite, kind, thoughtful, adventurous, and manly - he checked every box! We got along so well, and within a few months we had made our relationship exclusive. 

Fastforward 10 months. He sits me down on the couch one evening and tells me he is transgender and that he feels like a woman on the inside. This shocks me. He was clearly in some distress when he told me, and I admired him for his honesty and trust in me. Not ever having been in this situation before, I did everything I could do to support him right off the bat. More long talks than I could count, helping him tell his family, his friends, experimenting with various toys, etc. Our relationship was only a year old, and I wanted to do anything I could to help support this beautiful soul. He really unfolded in many ways I couldn't have expected at this time. He revealed that he cross-dresses at night (sleeps in panties and a bra, or a night gown). He bought breast forms to sleep in. He would also talk about wanting to have a threesome (MMF) with me (truth: it's just not for me). We made plenty of sex shop visits around this time. He wanted me to use a strap-on on him, and we bought several large dildos with balls that he was so excited about - I could see it in his eyes. We'd incorporate them a bit into our sex life, but not regularly. He was into it, I was not (but I went along with it). I should add that my partner grew up in a very strict religion, that he has since left.

A few months later, he tells me he wants to have an open relationship. He also tells me he wants to sleep with men. It comes to light that he had slept with men on a few occasions prior to our getting together. Again, wanting to be supportive and never having been in an open relationship before, I figured "why not? Let's try this." He goes out to dinner with a few women (yes, women - as far as I know no men were in the picture). Meanwhile, I go on several dates with someone who I end up really hitting it off with. We were never physical, but my partner gets wildly jealous and he proposes that we close our relationship. So we do. 

At this point, the jealousy from the open relationship seems to close my partner up entirely. He never asks for the strap-on, rarely pushes gender-bending during sex. Our sex life cools off, though I do know he masturbates. He admits that shemale porn is his preference. He also still continues to cross-dress at night.

He now says he's bisexual and transgender. He says he "probably won't" transition, but he can't promise me he won't. He wants strap-on, gender-bending sex with the option of an open relationship if the sex with me doesn't do it for him.

Meanwhile, I am struggling with the sheer UNCERTAINTY of it all!  I can't maintain the strong connection I need for sex if I'm not sure that my partner might transition to a woman one day! And how can I be certain when I have such resentment about him opening - and then closing - the relationship! Also, something in my gut just doesn't believe that he is done exploring. I can't get over the feeling that I'm holding him back, though he swears I'm not. When he first came out to me, it broke any trust I had that he is exactly who he says he is, and that it won't progress further. I feel bad about this.

I also feel so much GUILT for struggling to accept this. I can't get over the guilt of "why can't I just be okay with it"? Am I just too sexually conservative for him? He's such a great person and we're compatible in so many other ways!

We have been going to therapy as individuals. Something in me doesn't want to do couples therapy. We're not married, and I'm wondering if we should just pull the plug on our relationship now.

Has anyone else tried to work through these challenges early in a relationship, and it worked out? We've only been dating 4 years, and he's been "out" for 3. Or are we better just going our separate ways? I truly feel it's the latter, but am so scared of breaking up over something that could be worked through. Like, why can't I just believe him when he says he "probably won't" transition?

Thank you, and love to you all - this is so tough.

 

Last edited by NotSure12 (January 13, 2022 7:07 pm)

 

January 13, 2022 8:17 pm  #2


Re: Uncertainty and guilt

Hi NotSure12,

I would not be sure with a 40 year old SO who punishes you for following what he specifically asked you to do. In my opinion, he wants to have an open relationship for himself only while you remain monogamous.  He's holding that open relationship card over your head if he gets tired of having sex with you. It sounds like a threat. This makes him into the opposite of a great guy in my opinion.

You have resentment and mistrust for very good reasons.  Follow those instincts would be my suggestion. *If you stay out of guilt, * they tend to bounce around your head until you get fed up five years down the road and leave.

Good luck and sincerely hope things work out for you.

Edited: I don't mean to sound harsh. I hope you find someone with the same values as yourself. It can be an exercise in futility to mold yourself into something you're not. Take care!

*Edited again: I have PTSD due to my late ex-h's abuse. It effected my ability to multi-task though am getting better. Correcting so this makes sense. Again, please take care of yourself.

Last edited by MJM017 (January 14, 2022 10:51 am)


No - It's not too late. It's not hopeless. Even there, there's something I can do. I just have to find the will. Ikiru (1952), film directed by Akira Kurosawa 
 

January 13, 2022 10:38 pm  #3


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Perhaps the question you ought to be asking yourself is "Why do I feel the pressure to be ok with this?" rather than "Why can't I be ok with this?"  

You are uncertain about the future with this person because the future with this person is uncertain.  You don't know, and he can't or won't say, what he may wish to do in the future, and that applies both to opening the relationship and taking additional steps to feminize himself.

 My now ex said the same thing to me about transitioning.  Ideally he wanted to have his testicles removed and take hormones, but he'd decided that "for now" he was satisfied with not taking any irrevocable steps.  However, he said, he did not know what hie might want to do in the future.  Living in such a contingent situation is crazy making, because you can never be certain, and, never being certain, you can't really plan long term.

  I stuck around for three years trying to make it work.  I wish I hadn't.  Don't be me. 

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (January 13, 2022 10:38 pm)

 

January 14, 2022 1:27 am  #4


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NotSure12 if you want a lifetime of being not sure, stay with this petulant, manipulative, kinky dude. As OoHC says the real question is "why do I think I have to be ok with all this?"  He wants a performer and an audience, not a partner.

If the person you really liked during the open phase of your relationship was a straight guy (you don't specify), was it better than with Mr Confusion? I bet it was. 

4 years is long enough to waste with a dude who sounds like he's getting increasingly demanding and unpleasant. He's not going to improve.  Cut your losses and find a straight guy who knows who he is. 

Good luck.

Last edited by Soaplife (January 14, 2022 3:56 am)

 

January 14, 2022 8:58 am  #5


Re: Uncertainty and guilt

I agree with Soaplife

 

January 14, 2022 12:45 pm  #6


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Omg has this guy got you balancing on a tightrope! He's unsure who, or what, exactly he is therefore keeping you in the dark as well.!

I'm calling him... him... because he's not been truthful about who he is, doesn't sound like he ever will as long as he has you making him look straight.
Once I left a pair of sexy underwear under his pillow when I was away for the night, thinking he'd have sexy thoughts.. Y'know hold them to his cheek and dream of me. Hah! he put them on and I'll bet he didn't fantasize about me. I think in fact it convinced him that yes! I was going to be okay with it and that I would be accepting of what he's had in the back of his fantasizing head for... I dunno, years? He never made decisions lightly or fast. This Mindfuck was no exception. I was in love and saw the scenarios he laid out for what was a pretty good life we lead... Differently than he obviously does.

I will say.... Counseling won't work if the person you're doing it with is trying to be someone else

Elle

Edited...I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

Last edited by Ellexoh_nz (January 14, 2022 12:48 pm)


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January 14, 2022 3:20 pm  #7


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NotSure12: try to write down all the negative things you see in the relationship at this moment.
Then ask yourself one question: would you like to stay with your partner if all the issues were 10x worse?
If not, leave him. Because things usually get worse over time. At the beginning of a relationship, people usually try harder to please their partner and they try to suppress their weaknesses. But that only lasts for a few years.
Only you can answer that question for you.

 

January 18, 2022 10:29 am  #8


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I’m your age and stuck in a long marriage and many kids - I say if you’re not married get away from someone who’s not mature and understanding. He seems very unpredictable and unstable in relationships, like he’d be that way even without all of this sexuality stuff going on.

 

January 18, 2022 12:39 pm  #9


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NotSure12:  you sound like such a caring and wonderful person, and you go so far as to feel guilt over having needs and wants of your own.  He can't have the kind of relationship that you want, and you can't have the kind of relationship he wants ... why are you the one feeling guilt?  In fact, why is anyone feeling guilt?  

I look at LMM's post, above, and I remember my sister marrying and giving birth at age 23, to a child with severe chromosomal abnormalities.  Marriage and life have a way of throwing you curve balls.  Choose a partner who is right for you today, but who would also be there in a crisis, and not just take off like so many others would do.  This man of yours is still a child, long past the age when he should have aged out of this stuff.

 

January 18, 2022 4:25 pm  #10


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Delete
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Last edited by Lynne (July 15, 2022 6:25 pm)

 

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