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not tut tutting - there's a lot to like in the plan. I had a similar plan going with my ex at one point but I was relieved when his brother stepped in and lent him the money against the value of the house.
please don't fall about being fair to her. If she is talking about walking away from equity in the house she is hiding something else, imo.
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Jamie could you take on the mortgage and get her off the title and maybe take a bigger loan or give her a portion of your retirement fund to buy out her share in the current equity of the house? Then she can use that to sort out her own housing. The house value will likely significantly increase while you are paying it off so if her equity is a percentage rather than a cash figure she will do very well out of your hard work.
I was awarded 67% of house and chattels and 50% of combined superannuation. My gxh chose to take out a loan to buy me out of our house (we owned it) plus give me a cash amount in lieu of all chattels and cars which he kept.
Beware too - in Australia if either party begins earning significantly less than the other, the higher earner may likely be up for paying increased state mandated child support until the children are 18 if you are sharing custody. So you might find yourself paying more than you think that way also. Worth bearing in mind as there are a few years to go until your children are 18.
There's lots of ways to get more money from ex-spouses even in no-fault jurisdictions. You really need a good lawyer who specialises in family law matters to advise you and you would be wise to listen carefully to their advice. General practice solicitors do not always know all the tricks, of which there are many. And she should have her own lawyer that she pays for out of her income that is about equal to yours; you probably should stop acting for her.
I found it much better to make a clean break and get my gxh out of my finances and my life as much as I could.
Last edited by Soaplife (December 1, 2021 7:35 pm)
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Buying her out was my first plan but that is not possible now, i don't have the salary to be able to do it myself,
This way i get to keep the house on my terms until i want to downsize and once the children are of adult age (six years) they get to stay in the family home.
stbx moving out will be paying more than me for rent/mortgage so the childcare portion of which i think i will be doing more of is a little bit up in the air.
The legal executive i am dealing with is head of family law at her firm so i don't have any worries on that front.
We will be splitting bank accounts in January with her paying into my account for family stuff/mortgage etc, i dont want to be paying for all the vanity items she is currently paying for that have manifested since this all started and they are not cheap.
Last edited by jamieblunt (December 2, 2021 2:11 am)
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Good for you. Divorce is almost always the answer
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Hi Jamie, having a set amount paid into a specific account for family stuff is a good idea, even better if it can be done automatically at the payroll level. You don't want to have to constantly monitor her depositing her share on time.
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I'm in a very similar situation to yours -- especially the growing old together part. I'm 67 and we've been together 30 years. I think often about the theory of great thinker Erik Erikson and his stage theory of psychosocial development. He says that, in the mid-60s, we can either contemplate our accomplishments and can develop integrity if we see ourselves as leading a successful life. On the other hand, individuals who reflect on their life and regret not achieving their goals will experience feelings of bitterness and despair. I often think the intense focus on sexuality is just a smokescreen, especially for older people for whom sex typically should be playing a smaller -- not bigger -- role in thier lives.
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I get what you are saying but I really do think it comes back to sexuality, the very fact that we are hurting on every level, comes down to the marriage. Yes it is high stakes, the lack of sexual compatibility affects the straight in a way that it doesn't affect the one with same sex feelings.
A love match. A straight with a straight - together we stand, divided we fall.
I think the intensity is real. We know the time is coming when physical expression of love is going to become muted by our fragility.
And whoever tried to sell the idea that sex doesn't matter to old people. One of the most touching things I've seen footage of is a nurse leaning into a dying man - just think sexy thoughts, she said.
So yes, sexuality matters. Matters more than money and prestige even. Nothing can take away the losses but the sense I have is that it is entirely possible to be happy and successful in a new relationship despite it being on the back of all that. Um, it's like what is happening matters more than the past in how we feel.
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Thank you, Lily. During our long marriages many of us overlooked/suppressed/denied our sexuality to adapt to our husband's lack of interest in us. I take umbrage at the idea that by the time I was out of his closet I was too old to reclaim that part of my life.
Touch and intimacy are important to me and I expect will continue to be, Aging does make it likely that I will be alone at the end but I hope the memories of loving and having been loved will sustain me and erase the painful memories of the coldness in my marriage.
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As i said in my opening but, i am not ready to retire from affection/intimacy at 48 or at 68 (that bits new), if it all still works i want to be using it until it doesn't.
wat this has done to me as a man (and i am confident sort of chap but never been a james bond type of person), it has made me feel like the lack of affection and intimacy we both contributed to has made me feel like why would another lady want to be interested in me, i have all my friends saying the opposite but it doesn't take away from the fact that i think what we suffer is almost an abuse, intentional or not, having no idea why my wife slowly removed herself from our sexlife over 12 years with me thinking it was all about post natal depression and just "who she was", her being a lesbian gives every thing a context but it doesn't help me get over feeling like a hobgoblin.
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bit of an update, probably going to re-engage with the solicitors with full divorce with stbx leaving the equity in our house until it is sold further down the line(or i can somehow buy her out)
better news on me front, i have now almost entirely detached myself from her comings and goings, ambivalence is probably the best way to describe it so now she says she is gong out and aslong as it doesn't affect my plans i just nod/ok etc, i did give her a friendly warning about affording stuff soon as once we are on separate bank accounts all her new spending will be coming out from her money and she needs to save up for moving /legal fees etc, i did point out that together as a financial team we are very strong and now thats ending she is going to have to tighten her belt, dont really care if she listened or not.
i met a lady last friday, she knows all about my situation and is ok with it, it was so nice we spent three hours in a bar talking about all sorts and plan to do it again but we both want a very slow burn to start with, i gave her a very open and frank account of where i was with full disclosure/honesty, she asked me if i thought i was ready and my honest answer was i wont know until i try, she was ok with that as well.
going back to my above post i dont want to feel like an unlovable hobgoblin and as long as i dont use another human being just for my own purposes then i dont think i am rushing into anything or "doing it too soon"