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November 1, 2021 8:12 pm  #81


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Jamie, how do your kids feel about being split up, living away from each other? Their needs, feelings and preferences need to be considered too. Even if they don't appear overly close, siblings often have their own support system between them that doesn't include parents.

The family court in the no fault country where I live strongly favours keeping siblings together.

Glad you are getting legal advice, hopefully from a solicitor who specialises in divorce.

No fault is easier to navigate but also has pitfalls for the unwary especially regarding child support.

 

November 1, 2021 11:20 pm  #82


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Sorry this is going not in the direction you might have been hoping for. Make sure you keep yourself healthy. You might also want to keep a journal of events. Times she is away, and why. Any family duties she is skipping out on. Conversations and what was discussed. Such a record may become invaluable at a later date. Above all, try to avoid anger, don't be drawn into something that might show you in a poor light. You can still have firm boundaries. I'm not suggesting making things contentious. If you can still manage to negotiate fairly and honestly, that's great. This is more like having an insurance policy in case it goes that way.


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― Joe Strummer
 

November 2, 2021 2:20 am  #83


Re: Probably sounds familiar

thanks all ,the solicitor i will see is the head of family law in the firm i use

i just had a quick constructive chat with the stbx about splitting bank accounts and time frames, and yes i know she could turn on a dime and become difficult but i said i would help her through all the bank account stuff,so she has a good idea of her finances well before she moves out.
as per usual this wont last but i'm feeling upbeat this morning have direction, and just a few hours away from the front line of misery is blessed relief
thanks all for your help/advice it is so very important to me now

Soap we are holding off telling the children,although part of the conversation this morning was "when do you want to tell the children" stbx didnt know and didnt want to tell them about her sexuality but i did not agree to that, i am not keeping the truth from them and they need to know i didnt wreck the marriage becasue of our bickering, my plan for the children (especially our daughter) is not to make her decide where she wants to live but say she has two bedrooms one at stbx new place and one at home, and she will choose where and when she wants to be at either, what do you think of that as a plan?

Daryl stbx keeps a family calender in the kitchen it has all her festivals etc already logged but i really want to avoid using it to slap her down, she isnt a bad person and has been a greast mother and that deserves respect

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November 2, 2021 4:58 am  #84


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Jamie sounds like Wise plans for the kids, and always better to be honest especially when they are teens. It will be a period of adjustment to the new normal that has its tensions but as long as they feel safe and loved they are pretty resilient I've found.

 

November 2, 2021 12:37 pm  #85


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Jamie, first I want to say glad to hear you are feeling upbeat you are doing great.  It is an emotional rollercoaster for sure so look after yourself, it is very intense but does even out with time.  

keep the calendar and a diary, it doesn't hurt to be prepared.  Read Blue Bear's story.  A quote from Zsa Zsa Gabor - "Dahleenk you don't know the man you married until you divorce him." - stay civil with her.

So sorry to do this to you but here's a question - you have gone from viewing your wife as your best friend to seeing that she is just being manipulative, haven't you.  Do you think she is any different with her children?

 

November 2, 2021 1:16 pm  #86


Re: Probably sounds familiar

jamieblunt wrote:

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one question for the floor, ive seen the phrase "i am his beard" i am guessing thats in reference to a gay husband hiding behind his wife to keep up appearances of hetrosexuality, if i'm correct what is it called when its the other way round.....

 

 You're in the UK? You'd be her apron....pinny....tabard. You could be
the Cinderella..while your wife swans off to the ball

Elle
 


KIA KAHA                       
 

November 2, 2021 1:46 pm  #87


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Daryl wrote:

..... You might also want to keep a journal of events. Times she is away, and why. Any family duties she is skipping out on. Conversations and what was discussed. Such a record may become invaluable at a later date. ........

JB is already keeping an account, a journal of sorts. I know if I ever need to look back on stuff....a date, a fact...I simply look here
 


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November 2, 2021 2:49 pm  #88


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Lily, sunday was the first time after i dropped the divorce bomb and then she spent the rest of the day mentioning it may be in her head, but when i challenged her on it saying it wasn't fair as it was giving false hope, she back tracked saying she said "she wished it was all in her head" but i already had told her that my forum mates had said this would happen.

Elle i quite like that i am her apron, i will tell her that

Daryl yes timeline in here and on our family calendar which at new years i shall quietly retain.

thanks all for the continued input

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November 2, 2021 6:43 pm  #89


Re: Probably sounds familiar

I strongly suggest to you and others here that you do not mention your "forum mates" and their comments to your problematic partner.

Also I recommend against telling her that you are her "apron" or anything else. The fewer conversation you have with her, other than what is necessary for the children's welfare, the better.

You know your position and you are going to get legal advice. Don't share that with her either. Know what you know and do what you have to do quietly.


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

November 3, 2021 2:03 am  #90


Re: Probably sounds familiar

Abby i appreciate the concern but as much as my stbx is doing all the things i have mentioned we still have an inherently stable relationship we both know its coming to an end,but she also knows if she is going to extract herself financially/emotionally from this relationship it will be far easier for her with my goodwill and support, if she gets acrimonious she knows it will not end well for her, just last night she was leaning on me to help her get via bus to a town several hours away to see her new friend, i gave her my opinion and then left it at that,she didnt like my opinion on how to get there so spent another few hours trying to work out a better way and then came to the same conclusion, she also asked me to unreasonably take her to a certain bus stop in a major city at rush hour to which i replied no, she got a bit riled at me as i "wasnt helping her" when i pointed out it was a work day and i wasnt off and still had to get the children ready for school etc, she said "ah yes i forgot about that".
the point of that story is that she still relies on me for small things so imagine how scary having to move out, split bank accounts, get a mortgage will be for her as she has never done any of that stuff as its all been left to me, its not rocket science and she is a very intelligent person but its still daunting if you have never done it before,

The bottom line is now we both agree we are heading for divorce she may not want it for financial & stability reasons and i dont want it for all the reasons but she is a lesbian and nothing is going to change that even her "new friend" has said to her she cant be a lesbian and expect to retain all the benefits of her married straight life.

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