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January 31, 2021 2:22 pm  #1


Turning Point

Yesterday my husband and I had an "appointment" to have sex.  We live in a small place and it's awkward around our 13 year old.  So we had scheduled it for the morning when he is asleep.  It didn't happen....again.  
My husband says he wants to be in our marriage.  We are reading books out loud to each other, we are close in so many ways.  We have become very honest and very open. He says he loves me.  The problem is we have been having sex only 6 to 10 times a year.  I've been addressing this topic ad nauseum for years.....no progress.  I thought that eventually we would solve this, so I have been trying to deal with it.  Then finding out that he fooled around with a guy three or four times in the last four years, I just can't process it.  Maybe it would be different if we had an active sex life, but we don't.  It's a sad state when we both masturbate instead of having sex.  I am being very blunt and I hope you don't mind.  I don't see a way out of this type of pain.  It's completely messed up.  The only options I see are these: see a sex therapist/or take a couples intimacy course or separate.

We have done everything we can to avoid separating because we love each other and we don't want to break up our family.  My husband lacks attraction to me....it comes and goes.  He has to be in the "right" mood.  When we do make love, it is great...(we both agree it is.....it just doesn't happen very often.  I'm starting to think he has a very low libido or maybe porn is the problem or I just don't know and I'm starting to not care.

I wrote this yesterday:
I have decided that I am enough. Me, with my very round stomach that hangs down where "it's not supposed to"...that has scars from C section an appendectomy and laparoscopy for ovarian cysts.....
The breasts that hang down much lower than they used to....the wide bum and wrinkles and crinkles, most beautifully when I smile.....I have earned all this and held onto this....

My body with it's hypothyroidism and premature ovarian failure was getting ready to be older when I was young. I have entered menopause three times. Once when I was thirty three when I mistook hot flashes, night sweats and head aches for certain illness, only to be diagnosed as old before my time...ovaries...no longer working. Hormone replacement in high doses returned my "womanly glow"....then to have my baby through IVF using an egg donor, I was plunged back into menopause before being ramped up with daily injections of hormones so my womb could accept this miracle. It was the best gift that Gwendolyn, my donor could have ever given anyone, that little tiny red headed baby boy. Adoption by another way.
And then the oddest, most profoundly difficult time....nursing my baby while having intense hot flashes because I didn't want him to receive hormones in my breast milk. The irony was that even though I was back in menopause, my breast milk flowed and flowed. And finally because my doctor didn't want me to be in menopause at age forty, I was back on hormones when my babe was weaned. Now, in my fifities, I have been in menopause for five years....so glad that roller coaster ride is done.  My God, I will embrace my older self.

Where did we get this idea that fat on our bodies, the extra pounds we've held on to, the age we've glided into means we are diminished....less than?

Mostly by men and what they and we miss about our younger bodies.
Why are old men dignified and old women, crones?

Our only focus should be on strength and health, especially mental, but also physical.

I have decided that I am enough and anyone who wants me thinner can take the journey with me instead of sitting on the sidelines rooting for another team. 

Thanks for reading, lovely people........

 

February 2, 2021 11:53 am  #2


Re: Turning Point

So we had scheduled it for the morning when he is asleep.  It didn't happen....again.

But what happened then?
I assume he understands the importance it had (certainly to you) by now. So... did he explain and apologise, and set a new date ASAP?
Did he get and hold on to: YOU are to be his focus of importance?

My God, I will embrace my older self.

I'd rather say you embrace your NEW self. This is YOU and it's very much okay as you are!

Where did we get this idea that fat on our bodies, the extra pounds we've held on to, the age we've glided into means we are diminished....less than?

Mostly by men and what they and we miss about our younger bodies.

In my opinion those are immature men. It seems to me they advance in age but not in love and wisdom. The types that think commercials are a true depiction of reality. "The whole family smiles and gets ecstatic because they eat chocolate cookies of brand X". Yeah right... 

Why are old men dignified and old women, crones?

Ha, well... I do look dignified wearing a suit. But without clothes? Hmm... then I'm glad my wife loves me for who I am on the inside in the first place.
Alas, at age 57 I'm not having that body of a "young god" anymore. But it's still full of love and passion directed at her.
It was (and is) important to me she embraced me physically "in the second place" as well. The resulting consequence of love and connectedness that emerged. Because I'm a man, inside and outside. It's the whole package deal, nothing more and nothing less. Acceptance has to go both ways in a MOM. Acceptance is a bit neutral word and might be misinterpreted. I mean: acceptance is not like "enduring", but rather "embracing".

My wife carries the history of her life on her body. We have four children she carried and brought on earth. This is not just traces on part of her body but a shared part of us. It's not like in the commercials, but a real and beautiful witness of our life together. I wouldn't want to trade that for some silly billboard image!
Not to mention all the other beautiful aspects of her I enjoy.

I don't get to understand your husband. There is something off and confusing. Is it just TGT? I don't know, could be, but somehow it doesn't align. Is there something else at play, maybe Asperger or something like that??? Or some extra thought: Did he consider stopping watching porn? This could well be a source of many of troubles he (and by proxy, you) experiences. 
Whatever it may be, I feel you are in all kinds of conflicting and contradictionary dilemmas. It's very complicated and confusing. Seeking help in the form of a sex therapist or couples intimacy course could shed some light. 

But however you may proceed further, there is certainly a possitive development in yourself! Nothing wrong with you, you are good as you are!

 

February 2, 2021 1:04 pm  #3


Re: Turning Point

Sonata,

Hang on to that perception of yourself because you have it right; and, Dutchman, you, as a man have validated her observations as well. I commend both of you 😊.

I, too, will never know why our culture admires the looks of an older man, however points out the ‘sagginess’, etc of a woman.

I’m going through those feelings of older age not making me attractive to my husband also. As it is, he’s bisexual, and had sex with men the first 15+ years of our marriage. We didn’t get married until our 50’s. It’s his first marriage. I was married 32 years when my first husband passed away. We would have been married 50 years this June. If it was the two of us together now, I wouldn’t feel so self concious because we would have gone through all those years aging together. But, now, my current husband and I have only been married 16+ years, and have had all this stuff between us, making me feel less than desirable anyway....not to mention I turn 68 this year. So, having been in a marriage a whole adult lifetime would sure make me more comfortable than I am now....... I was thinkng about this the other day, so thanks for the opportunity to voice it 😉.

Sonata, I agree with the idea of getting counseling one way or another on this. Sure can’t hurt!

 

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