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November 3, 2020 12:53 pm  #11


Re: Should I take him back?

Rob's advice is really, really good.

Here's the question:  Do you want to continue a marriage with a gay-in-denial husband who lacks empathy and will likely continue to deprive you of intimacy?

You're having trouble moving forward because you invested in this man, and you invested deeply.  He deceived you into doing that, and accepting the truth of all of *this* is really, really difficult.  So many of us have been there.  We get it.

I've written elsewhere that staying together "for the kids" is an epically bad idea.  Trying to make your relationship with your gay husband work is going to divert tremendous amounts of energy from you, which your kids (and you) deserve.  You will be unable to model a healthy relationship for your kids.  And you will likely not be happy trying to perform the impossible task of being a husband to your husband.  He doesn't need or want a wife.  Don't do it.

Good luck.  We are here for you.

 

November 4, 2020 1:58 am  #12


Re: Should I take him back?

OutofHisCloset wrote:

Nice to hear an update on your situation, even if you are still in limbo.
Sounds to me not as if you looking for reasons to leave but as if you are looking for reasons to stay.  Have you been over to Chump Lady?  Her site is for peoples whose spouses have cheated on them, but even if that's not the case (I can't remember whether your husband has), she has some great posts on what she calls "hopium" and on reconciliation and what keeps us stuck.  I found her site very useful.

I headed down to Chump Lady and spent a long time reading up on HOPIUM. Yes, I have made excuses for him. And I am not proud to say I am in hopium. I just need to trace my steps out of it. 

For my GIDH, while I never caught him red-handed in bed. I saw chats of him asking a prospective male lover out and professing undying love for him. It hurt then and still hurts now because I never got that kind of love affirmations from him. 

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November 4, 2020 2:03 am  #13


Re: Should I take him back?

Blue Bear wrote:

Rob's advice is really, really good.

Here's the question:  Do you want to continue a marriage with a gay-in-denial husband who lacks empathy and will likely continue to deprive you of intimacy?

You're having trouble moving forward because you invested in this man, and you invested deeply.  

Thanks Blue bear, It is just confusing because he promises that the counsellor has taught him about empathy and he will be more empathic. He also promises sex will improve, that the kisses will come it's just that he is not used to kissing someone. We had 7 years to build this but we didn't. Sometimes I think in my dreams that they might. But that is not reality. 

I think the investment part is my issue. Moving forward. I have this fear about what happens next.

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November 4, 2020 1:45 pm  #14


Re: Should I take him back?

The kisses will come?  No, you deserve a man who cannot stand not being able to kiss you!

And no amount of counseling can keep the gay at bay.  It is who they are.

Fear about "what happens next" is totally normal.  I know exactly what that feels like.  I think most of us will tell you that life gets better (in my case, incredibly better) on the other side of living with a gay partner.

 

November 4, 2020 2:27 pm  #15


Re: Should I take him back?

OJECPOMCO wrote:

Thanks Blue bear, It is just confusing because he promises that the counsellor has taught him about empathy and he will be more empathic. He also promises sex will improve, that the kisses will come it's just that he is not used to kissing someone. We had 7 years to build this but we didn't. Sometimes I think in my dreams that they might. But that is not reality. 

I think the investment part is my issue. Moving forward. I have this fear about what happens next.

Coming from me, this is the opposite I would usually suggest. ...that said; I read your posts, and it looks like you’ve been trying to leave for almost a year now. I know it’s hard, but living torn like this isn’t good for you or your children. It sounds like your husband isn’t even trying to give you ANYTHING emotionally or physically. 

What I’ve learned from all this with my bisexual husband is to look at his ACTIONS, not his WORDS. I see the promises in your last post, as well as others: sex will improve, more empathetic, the kisses will come. In your posts from last year there were also promises similar, and yet he still is just promising.

I’m a true believer in trying to make marriages work, including MOM’s, if you can. BUT, BOTH of you have to want it and put the work into it... that means total honesty and a lot of open, honest communication. It hasn’t been easy for us, as my husband isn’t good at sharing his feelings at all, but he wants this to work, and he’s been totally open & honest with me (BTW, this is after he cheated on me with men our entire relationship, 15+ Years. So, stopping for him wasn’t easy, but if he wanted our marriage to work, it had to be done first.) He’s been trying really hard to do the right thing. The main problem he’s had has been keeping a good attitude. And, he knows it & is working on it. It’s now better, too....See the difference. He’s actively trying & things are better, not stagnant any more.  But, it shows that if your husband really wanted to keep your marriage together he would be actively doing something about it.
I don’t like being so negative, but after reading all your posts, I see you have been stuck in the same place for the last year & it hurt me to see it as I could see myself doing the same thing.
All the best to you.
(((((HUGS))))))

 

November 7, 2020 12:39 am  #16


Re: Should I take him back?

SusanneH wrote:

Coming from me, this is the opposite I would usually suggest. 

Hi SusanneH, what would you really mean when you say this is the opposite of what you will suggest? I read the whole message of did fathom the exact suggestion?

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November 7, 2020 12:47 am  #17


Re: Should I take him back?

SusanneH wrote:

 


What I’ve learned from all this with my bisexual husband is to look at his ACTIONS, not his WORDS. I see the promises in your last post, as well as others: sex will improve, more empathetic, the kisses will come. In your posts from last year there were also promises similar, and yet he still is just promising.

For actions, we have passed the night together thrice this year. On one account, after confessing that he has anxiety and finds communication hard, he had an urge for sex. That didn't happen I have been careful of what I do. 
On the second and third account, he had low libido and attribute it to supplements he was taking. On those weekends we kissed just one or so. 

I am weary about the libido issue, because as I have found, they are not a problem when he watches gay porn. 

I so want this to work. Maybe living in hopium but ......

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November 7, 2020 12:48 pm  #18


Re: Should I take him back?

OJECPOMCO wrote:

SusanneH wrote:

Coming from me, this is the opposite I would usually suggest. 

Hi SusanneH, what would you really mean when you say this is the opposite of what you will suggest? I read the whole message of did fathom the exact suggestion?

I usually try to do just about anything to see what can be done to save a marriage. That’s what I meant about it being the opposite. Sorry to be so negative, but your posts sound as if you are living on HOPIUM. I can see it because I do it, too. My husband makes promises about acting nicely, with a better attitude, and he does,but can’t keep it up. Today is a good....translated “awful “ example of that. I actually drove off & have never done that before. I’m sitting in a parking lot. (High risk for COVID& haven’t been anywhere but Dr appointments since March, so I had to be really upset to do this. We were having one of those long, drawn out arguments.....that go nowhere & are SO frustrating! ) But, they are coming less frequently, thank goodness. .

Sorry to get off track....anyway, I hope that answers your question.

 

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