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August 20, 2020 10:38 pm  #11


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

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August 21, 2020 5:41 am  #12


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

There is a difference between sharing the truth, which is telling why you are single now, and dumping, which is when you unburden yourself onto another. The latter leaves them wanting to help you but in most cases not having the skills to do so. A probable response is that they will panic and leave. Wouldn't you? 

Dumping is best done with a therapist who does not have a personal investment and has training and  experience to guide you forward. It is not a matter of faking that you are over it but choosing what to discuss and with whom.


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

August 21, 2020 12:40 pm  #13


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

 

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August 21, 2020 2:01 pm  #14


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

Lynne, 
   I completely understand how living in someone's closet closes you off from others.  The three years I spent in my ex's closet was excruciating and isolating.  I felt as if I was being dishonest with everyone (because I was!), and I hated it.  I felt as if I were walking around under a bell jar, or with shutters behind my eyes, so that no one could see into me.  What I was living with at home was the dominant fact of my life, and I walked around pretending it wasn't.  The lie dominated everything simply by having to deny the truth.
    That experience made me decide that to live truthfully is not just to blurt out to everyone the truth, but living truthfully is characterized by a pervasive feeling that I am living without artifice and lies, even if I am not talking about my closeted ex.  I need to be able to feel that if the subject were to arise, or that if I need to bring it up, that I feel free to do so. I don't hide the truth any more, although I don't tell it to everyone.  I have not gotten close to anyone new romantically, and don't know if I ever will, so it hasn't been an issue there.  

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August 21, 2020 2:41 pm  #15


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

I think it’s very natural for prospective new partners of divorcees to wonder why we got divorced. It’s not the first question I would ask (obviously) but It’s up there as a ‘need to know’. 

When I was asked the inevitable “what happened” question by the first woman I dated after my divorce she almost seemed relieved that my divorce occurred due to something out of my control. I personally think it’s easier to say “my wife came out as gay” than “I went bankrupt” or “I was violent” or “We fell out of love with each other” or any of the other hundreds of reasons people get divorced.

Once my new partner knew I was just a normal, nice guy whose ex-wife came out as gay it was pretty much smooth sailing. I certainly didn’t ‘dump’ the story on her...It was a slow reveal.... but all I got in return was compassion and understanding.

There may be less to fear from your truth than you think. I certainly hope so.


You have a future. A good one. It begins as a flicker of hope. Nurture it until it becomes a dream and when you are strong enough you will make it a reality. NEVER give up. 
 

August 22, 2020 8:44 pm  #16


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

 

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August 23, 2020 11:42 am  #17


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

I don't think it's possible to go through this without being changed in some way. For instance, I think it really changes the way you treat other people. The realization that they may be facing battles you can't easily observe and know nothing about. I think it changes how you treat yourself. Hopefully not in a selfish manner but a realization that to be your best person to yourself and others, you have to put yourself in a good place and take care of you. For some of us, the BS detection meter gets finely tuned and we learn a fierce determination to stand up for ourselves and our principals. Each of us comes out of this fire somewhat differently.

Can you be happy again and possibly build a new life with another? Absolutely. More than one person here has found and built a new relationship with someone else and found something special, built on a bedrock of truth and honesty.


“The future is unwritten.”
― Joe Strummer
 

August 23, 2020 2:17 pm  #18


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

Daryl is right. Everything that happens in life changes us.

I am 17 years down this road and was only thinking a few weeks ago that I am forever changed. There was a time when I thought of the changes as ‘permanent damage’ but Daryl is so, so right. There has also been permanent improvement.

On the negative side I feel like I live my life now with a low level of anxiety. I live my life now feeling like the rug could be pulled out from under me at any second. But you know what? Maybe that’s how life actually is? Maybe I should have known that before? Maybe this experience has woken me up to a sad but true reality that life can, and will, throw curve balls from time to time.

On the positive side I can say, or at least I hope I can say, that I am a better person because of all of this. I’m a wiser person. A more understanding person. A more compassionate person. The experience humbled me. Tuned me in to the feelings and experiences of others. Taught me about grief, sexuality, gender, mental illness, community and a whole raft of things that I might not have otherwise known. I am re-married now and have never felt more loved.

So..: This experience WILL change you... forever... in both negative and positive ways. How much negative or how much positive is, to a large extent, up to us. There is negative stuff we can’t avoid but there is also positive stuff we shouldn’t avoid. Use the experience - when you can - as an opportunity to learn and grow.

(Plus it really sticks in your ex’s craw when you end up happier without them)

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You have a future. A good one. It begins as a flicker of hope. Nurture it until it becomes a dream and when you are strong enough you will make it a reality. NEVER give up. 
 

August 23, 2020 8:38 pm  #19


Re: New here-- 2 years after divorce and I'm still not quite "over it"

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