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June 25, 2020 11:36 am  #1


Minwalla article

https://nationalpsychologist.com/2012/07/partners-of-sex-addicts-need-treatment-for-trauma

It is a good article,  But I have been looking on his website for some concrete suggestions on how to treat the trauma and have found nothing,  Don't get me wrong I am grateful he has identified SAIT and that is very helpful and validating in itself but how do you treat it, is it even possible to heal?

  



 

 

June 25, 2020 11:05 pm  #2


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thanks Longway, I will dig in.

 

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June 26, 2020 12:26 am  #3


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okay so just finished listening to the first podcast.  oh boy, on the one hand it is so good to have that damn co-dependency label taken off and acknowledgement of the trauma inflicted but infuriating that the whole thing seems to be more focused on helping the abuser than the abused.  I wanted to throw things - so I have made a pot of soup and hopefully that will give me the fortitude to continue.

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June 26, 2020 6:44 am  #4


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ok so listened to all three now and you are right it gets better with each one til it is clear the support is for the victim not the abuser.  phew.  acknowledgement is really good.  but that seems to be it.  is emdr really the only thing on offer?  what glimmer of a path to healing did you discern Longwayhome?

thanks, Lily

 

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June 27, 2020 12:26 am  #5


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thanks. Longway, that was lovely, and so helpful to read.  thanks again.  really, just lovely!

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June 27, 2020 7:52 am  #6


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    ]My thanks, too, Longway.  That was a hugely helpful summary.  
   I'm in my mid-60s, so I, too, have "more to look back on than I do to look forward to."  However, what we have to look forward to will be untainted by dishonesty and therefore unencumbered by that mental struggle to resolve the conflict between our intuition and our desire to believe our spouse.  That's how I'm seeing it, anyway. 
  Even though the two years since I left my closeted now-ex have been full of grieving and doing the hard and painful work of processing my 36 year marriage (32 at disclosure; 35 when I left) to a man struggling with and then deceiving me about his sexuality, those two years have already been happier ones for me than many of the years preceding my leaving.  I'm looking forward to living the years I have left free of dishonesty and deception, and as joyfully as I can.  
 

 

June 28, 2020 1:16 pm  #7


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June 28, 2020 2:54 pm  #8


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Long way home,

Thank you for that summary. It was super enlightening. It helps me understand what the heck happened to me.

“” They briefly talk about how difficult it is for the spouse. The importance for us to turn around and look at the life behind us, to look back consciously, the courage it takes is huge. Another interesting issue was our intuition, the importance of our intuition, if you keep ignoring it, you will eventually loose it. Also the bit about our own internal struggle to trust what our spouse is telling us or to trust our own intuition. This is our war, this is the one we must win. If we trust our intuition, we start taking a step in the right direction, if we trust our lying spouse, we just keep loosing ourselves more and more as time goes on, if the abuse is severe and prolonged, it gets dangerous. A person pretty well looses all abilities to think independently, looses the ability to relate not only to themselves but to all others as well.””

My gidh got me to do so many appalling things, putting my mind, heart, health, and safety at risk. I have had several breakdowns when I was scream/crying uncontrollably at him over the phone (I feel so unsafe with him I don’t let go, I guess.) He just doesn’t care. I have ongoing heartache and heath issues that he caused in my life, because of brainwashing me to put myself at risk for him to get some temporary sexual excitement. It usually makes me so dizzy when I try to figure out how the hell I let him push me into things I normally would have rather died than do. But this is helpful for trying to understand what happened.

 

June 28, 2020 5:28 pm  #9


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LongWayHome,
    Actually, what you describe is not so very different than the story of my marriage before my now-ex's disclosure.  Non-communication, periodic depressions, and the constant silent accusation that there was something wrong with me and all his unhappiness was my fault. Two years before his disclosure, in fact, we had talked about divorcing, but I walked it back--or I thought that was the agreement.  When I asked if we could try to fix things, my ex said, "if we can make this marriage work I'm all in," but two years later, when out of the blue he came out to me as trans-identified, complete with plans to have his testicles removed and start taking cross-sex hormones and transition, he said he thought that after what we'd said about divorce he had considered the marriage over and therefore free to re-imagine himself.  News to me, because I'd thought we were trying to see if we could make it work.  He spent that two years between saying "if we can make this marriage work I'm all in" exploring a new identity, which included telling it all to another person, an ex student of ours, while not only saying nothing to me, but keeping it all secret from me. I heard about it only when he dropped his trans bomb. 
   During that two years his behavior was to me inexplicably and increasingly hostile and bizarre, and like you, I had no context in which I could understand it.  I spent a lot of time in that two years between walking back the divorce and his declaration wondering why the hell he was acting the way he was. 
    When he did tell me,I at first said "I don't want to be the wife of a transwoman and have my entire life revolve around transness, so I want to divorce" and then was suckered into first "comforting him" and then an ill-advised and ultimately traumatic year and a half of trying to be the "supportive wife."  At first he was deliriously happy with me, but I soon discovered that any doubts or discomfort on my part were unacceptable to him.  He not only had absolutely no empathy for me or appreciation of what I was attempting, he didn't believe I was due any, either.  I spent that eighteen months largely caught between my intuition that I needed to get out of the marriage and trying to support my husband, and living in his closet, which left me isolated and vulnerable to his manipulations.  I am so grateful that my own intuition was not extinguished; in fact, it grew more insistent over time, to the point I was having dreams in which I was in a building looking for an exit and hearing a voice say "You have to get out."  
   Recovery is hard, difficult, exhausting work, and we need to care for ourselves.  The effort, though, is so worth it.  I now regularly find myself realizing that I'm content and happy, and then thinking how new and surprising this feeling is.  That the feeling is such an unusual one reminds me just how unhappy and discontent I had gotten used to feeling.  
 

 

June 28, 2020 11:18 pm  #10


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