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June 7, 2020 10:48 pm  #1


Newbie in Pain

Hello. I'm new to this forum. I'm straight. He's bi.

Been married 38 years. He told me he was bi when we were first dating. I was so flattered. I thought, "of all the people in the world, he picked me."

I didn't realize I'd have to put up with gay porn and leering at young men for decades. But, I figured this was the price I had to pay. This was how he coped. We were a MOM couple before I knew the term.

Then the devastation happened. Two years ago, my husband fell head over heels in love with a young man.

The events were so unreal, it is hard to comprehend how I lived through it.

They met for coffee once a week. He said they were just friends. But my husband doesn't have friends. For 36 years he was an introverted, shy, reclusive, gentle, sweet man with no friends. Now he was falling down the stairs to meet this young man. Suddenly he was attentive to his personal grooming and clothing. Suddenly he was critical of me.

For so many years I blamed myself for not being desirable enough. But I need to accept the truth that much of his sexual desire was for men.

I asked if he wanted to split up. I asked if he needed to live the other side of his sexuality with this man. He said no. He seemed hurt and surprised. He doesn't really seem to be aware that his feelings show. I saw my husband in love, he just saw two friends.

Miraculously, life intervened and the young man now lives in another country. My husband was on the verge of tears for weeks.

It's been over a year. We went back to "normal." 

We have created a very co-dependent relationship. He is older and has health issues, and I'm now the nurse-spouse. And I'm dependent on him financially. If we had the funds at the time of this outside relationship, I might have set him up in an apartment, hired him a nurse, and started dating straight men.

My husband is a dear, sweet man. I think I could handle it better if he was honest with me.  Once, in a rare moment of clarity, he said that he rejected the gay lifestyle early on because he wanted a stable, quiet home life. He wanted a wife.

Now, he's come out to me as a cross-dresser. I'm pissed off. I'm straight. I like men. I wouldn't mind sleeping with one right now. Instead, I have this old guy in woman's underwear prancing around the house. If this was a movie, I'd laugh at the absurdity.

I feel like my entire marriage has been built on an illusion, projections and false expectations. The vow I took to stay married has weighed heavily on me.

The husband I thought I had is gone. The marriage I thought I had is gone. The person I thought I was is gone.

Such pain, such grief, such humiliation. It's all very hard to manage some days. Been keeping myself busy dealing with his health stuff, and running the house and, oh yeah, and the pandemic.

I realize sex isn't everything, and yet it's at the center of this predicament. It's all so bizarre.

There is still love. That never goes away. Sometimes I wish it would. But it doesn't. It is always the most important thing.

And so I stay.

Yesterday I was in pain. Today I am okay. Tomorrow is a mystery.

Thank you for listening.

tabby

 

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June 7, 2020 11:26 pm  #2


Re: Newbie in Pain

Tabby-
I hear you!    I feel your pain.  I lived out a similar situation only I have 3 adult children & 2 grandchildren.  Over 35 years together & 32 years of marriage when I filed for divorce. My GX moved his boyfriend(younger than our children) in with him immediately. He had no respect for me or our children & family. The extreme weight loss, working out & change of attire all cane along with this too!  He’s gross, he’s a narcissist and he’s a huge pathologically lying asshole!  I don’t know why I didn’t open my eyes and see what was happening earlier, but I didn’t.  I’m extremely thankful I did though finally and divorced him!  He was a user!  He wanted a wife(beard), kids, and a job title & money he got from my family’s business. I was dumb, but I’m awake now! 

I’m in my fifties and it’s not easy starting over.  But I’ll be damned if I would knowing stay married to a gay man!  I got nothing out of being with him other than my kids. He was no husband, and I say this looking back. At the time I knew something felt off, but couldn’t put my finger on it.  He never would utter a word about attraction to men.  He knew his secret would be out & he wouldn’t be seen as the awesome husband, father and community member people thought he was. 

To hell with that.  It’s so painful and hard.............do what you feel you need to do, but getting the guts to divorce him is the best thing I ever did!  Things don’t get better over time with these gay in denials as far as I can see, if anything it gets worse with time!

 

June 8, 2020 7:51 am  #3


Re: Newbie in Pain

Thinking about it further, it may be more accurate to say I believe my husband is in the closet. I believe he knows who he is, it's just that he is not honest with me about it. This is part of the pain. I'm supposedly his best friend and he is not comfortable enough to be honest with me. Perhaps to do so would mean too many changes, or confronting too many regrets. I don't know. It just hurts. Part of me is just complaining. At this point I am trying to be grateful for the days we have left together. Maybe I've tolerated too much. I can't go back and change things now. The sun is up, the birds are chirping. Love demands everything. It always wins.

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June 8, 2020 10:53 am  #4


Re: Newbie in Pain

I don't generally comment here because this is the section reserved for those who are committed to marriage, but I do want to say that before you conclude you don't have any other choice except to stay married to him, you should visit a lawyer in order to learn for certain what your options under divorce would be.  You might be surprised to learn you have a better financial picture than you now suppose.  And don't conclude that it's 'too late" for you to start over; many here were married decades before divorcing (I myself was married for 35 years before I divorced.) 

 

June 8, 2020 10:16 pm  #5


Re: Newbie in Pain

Welcome Tabby...
 You said "I realise sex isn't everything, yet it's the centre of this predicament". When talking of my own predicament I agree with you 100%, and my partner won't ever admit to it. Sweeps it under the carpet. What problem?
 If my life wasn't so comfortable I may have walked out months ago. But I don't because I am retired and don't wish my life to crumble on the whim of an argument that might put me in an even worse position. I won't be the one who loses out. 
 I'm fairly sure by Xmas time he will move to another city, and I don't want to drag all the issues we have along too. And the only way I can do that is to not move with him

I laughed at your movie scenario of the old man prancing round in woman's knickers

 if we didn't laugh...we'd cry more often than we do right?

 Elle



 


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June 9, 2020 11:56 pm  #6


Re: Newbie in Pain

tabby,

Sorry this has happened to you. I never had a known MOM, but was in one with a GIDXH.  Sex is a way to share intimacy and love. It’s where two become one.  It is the most important thing in marriage. Without it, you’re roommates or friends with unsatisfactory benefits.

Out of his closet has a great suggestion to visit a lawyer to discuss divorce & financials. Working to maintain a household does not exclude you from half of joint property, half of his pension(s) for each year of marriage, and, unfortunately, half the joint debt. He has no leg up having been the sole wage earner. 

If divorce is out, is there a possibility of an open marriage for you?  I never felt as lonely as I did with GIDXH. A kind heterosexual man who’s crazy for you will add so much joy to your life.


No - It's not too late. It's not hopeless. Even there, there's something I can do. I just have to find the will. Ikiru (1952), film directed by Akira Kurosawa 
 

June 12, 2020 6:33 am  #7


Re: Newbie in Pain

I usually don't post in this section either..but probably could as I coped with a cheating spouse for quite some time.  Unfortunately my coping skills involved working on myself as my GX ignored me or screamed at me..i preferred being ignored as the lesser of the two ...think sitting 4 to 5 hours in the same room ignoring each other...her stoically thinking her gay affair was morally ok and fair.


You mentioned the words "tried too hard"...    I just wanted to comment that I don't think any one could have tried harder than us on this board..we/you love fiercely and stoically. We are/were "all in".   I would have died for my then wife.  I have no regrets for the love I gave..i vowed before God to love her.  It makes us who we are.  In this life and the next I can tell God I tried as hard as I could. One could say, divorced now, I still have kept my vows; I don't hurt her.

We can look back on our life and see a waste of our efforts..but I look back and I see, among myself and everyone on this board, fierce profound love for one's spouse.

Build a support system..dont go through this alone..


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

June 12, 2020 8:34 am  #8


Re: Newbie in Pain

"tabby" wrote:

In the meantime, I feel like my entire marriage has been built on an illusion.

This might well be an accurate observation. And it's very hard and confronting to acknowledge it, it hurts deeply.
A marriage vow is not meant to be single sided. I get the impression his vow had a lot to do with loving himself. Probably he didn't (and still doesn't) understand what real love in marriage is about. Chances are he will never. The sexual attraction that might send him in the good direction isn't there, and he seems not to have any inner motivation to reach out to you.
So if you choose to stay married, you will continue to love someone, but never experience really being loved. Marriage should contain both aspects, that's why both are kept to a vow.

The-gay-thing in a MOM isn't the decisive factor, the real-love-thing is!
Sex is important, but not necessarily as a reason for love, it's rather a consequence. No sex in marriage is not the cause of a problem but in the first place it's a symptom.
When my lesbian wife came-out, she still decided to have sex with me. Because she considered: "I want my husband to accept me as I am, so I have to accept him too as he is". Although it didn't hold that thrill to her at the time, it was certainly out of love. And that has value in itself, sex as consequence of love (...and from there it evolved further).

No sex in a marriage is a red alert. In case of a MOM not so much of the gay-thing, but a sign of lack of real love and acceptance from the side of the gay spouse. In my opinion it's (most times) an indication of one sided love. It's not just the sexual kind of love that is lacking.

 

June 12, 2020 1:52 pm  #9


Re: Newbie in Pain

Rob wrote:

...........Build a support system..dont go through this alone..

 We will ALL OF US say this to you 
"You need a support system"

 Elle
 


KIA KAHA                       
 

June 13, 2020 10:09 am  #10


Re: Newbie in Pain

Hello,

At the moment you all are my support system.  I am very grateful.

I would be interested in hearing more about how people make MOMs work.

Leaving is not an option at this time.

Thank you.
 

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